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[scotty01]

Great news! Wonder what that equates to in terms of missing Scumgers fans next season....it might settle the debate.

[oaksoft]

Great news! Wonder what that equates to in terms of missing Scumgers fans next season....it might settle the debate.

Where are you getting that figure from?
15% of what amount?
If it's 15% of 100 then that's hardly "great news".
Also, those tickets have been bought and drastically reduced prices.
The only numbers that count are the total number of season ticket holders by the first day of the season and how much revenue they brought in.
Context is everything.
We're not all muppets on here you know. Some of us understand what "spin" is.

[faraway saint]

So the Gers botcott and dafte posts about our new signing are all bollox?

I indicated at the end of last season it would be interesting if our possession football and final league position would have a positive effect. Seems it has.

Just hope silent marjory (Copyright saint argyll) and Lex take the hint and learn to support St Mirren football club although making a cnut of themselves is rather amusing.

[civilsaint]

15% in volume or 15% in hard cash terms?

I doubt it's cash....

[HSS]

Where are you getting that figure from?
15% of what amount?
If it's 15% of 100 then that's hardly "great news".
Also, those tickets have been bought and drastically reduced prices.
The only numbers that count are the total number of season ticket holders by the first day of the season and how much revenue they brought in.
Context is everything.
We're not all muppets on here you know. Some of us understand what "spin" is.

There is an article in todays PDE.
ST sales are up 15% from this time last year.What it doesn't mention is if the free kids tickets are included or if its a 15% rise in paying customers.

[Jeremiah Cole]

15% up in sales is meaningless. What matters is the actual revenue taken in.

These 15% extra sales will have been to existing season ticket holders who would have bought season tickets anyway and who have taken advantage of the early bird discount.

In other words, we've taken less money this summer from these sales than we did last summer.

[Desperately Seeking Susans]

What percentage of those STHs have still to renew in comparison with this time last year?

[ADMITCHELL]

15% up in sales is meaningless. What matters is the actual revenue taken in.

These 15% extra sales will have been to existing season ticket holders who would have bought season tickets anyway and who have taken advantage of the early bird discount.

In other words, we've taken less money this summer from these sales than we did last summer.

Season ticket for w2 last year 250, season ticket this year 295 both on early bird so by my rough reckoning revenue should be up by around 45 pound a ticket not down.

What do you think?

[scotty01]

Where are you getting that figure from?
15% of what amount?
If it's 15% of 100 then that's hardly "great news".
Also, those tickets have been bought and drastically reduced prices.
The only numbers that count are the total number of season ticket holders by the first day of the season and how much revenue they brought in.
Context is everything.
We're not all muppets on here you know. Some of us understand what "spin" is.

Well here you go...


"St Mirren general manager Brian Caldwell said: “We are very pleased to report that there has been a welcome rise in our season ticket sales when compared to last season.

“As things stand, we are looking at a rise of as much as 15 per cent and that’s very healthy."

Either way you look at it, season ticket sales are up 15% on same time last year. I am a season ticket holder and I paid roughly GBP 30.00 more this year than last year, including bringing two free kids. Most other categories of tickets have gone up as well, so I am not sure what you mean by drastically reduced prices. Thats clearly not the case.

My point is, if we have 1500 season ticket holders (I found a guess of 1800 via Google but lets be conservative), an increase of 15% in sales at the same price I paid would mean potentially an extra GBP 66k in revenue, just in season ticket sales. We don't know for sure what group those buying people are in, but we do know its an extra 225 people if the trend continues, and if they each bring one free child thats an extra 450 people in the ground spending money on food etc...any way you look at it, its positive.

I'm not a financial analyst; I don't sit on the board so I don't know what the exact numbers are, but I can be positive about good news once in a while; you should try it some time...oh...and you can spin your head right up your arse as far as I'm concerned...

[TediousTom]

15% up in sales is meaningless. What matters is the actual revenue taken in.

These 15% extra sales will have been to existing season ticket holders who would have bought season tickets anyway and who have taken advantage of the early bird discount.

In other words, we've taken less money this summer from these sales than we did last summer.

I once knew an engineer who expressed himself in such a way.

That said I agree with your post and the sentiments expressed. Well done.

[Kendo]

So the Gers botcott and dafte posts about our new signing are all bollox?

I indicated at the end of last season it would be interesting if our possession football and final league position would have a positive effect. Seems it has.

Just hope silent marjory (Copyright saint argyll) and Lex take the hint and learn to support St Mirren football club although making a cnut of themselves is rather amusing.

Have you bought your's yet?

[David Mc]

I once knew an engineer who expressed himself in such a way.

That said I agree with your post and the sentiments expressed. Well done.

Not so IMO. Even if it's the same revenue with more people through the gate it's a good thing. The more kids the better. It's how we all started.

[Smtid 1]

There is an article in todays PDE.
ST sales are up 15% from this time last year.What it doesn't mention is if the free kids tickets are included or if its a 15% rise in paying customers.

Can they claim they "sold" a free ticket?

[HSS]

Can they claim they "sold" a free ticket?

I don't know.That's why I'm asking.

[Jeremiah Cole]

Season ticket for w2 last year 250, season ticket this year 295 both on early bird so by my rough reckoning revenue should be up by around 45 pound a ticket not down.

What do you think?

Presumably those 9 extra people paid a higher price last season therefore the revenue from those 259 people will be down on last season.

[davidg]

Presumably those 9 extra people paid a higher price last season therefore the revenue from those 259 people will be down on last season.

Who cares?

Bums on seats, that's what it's all about.

When I was wee I got lifted over the turnstile, police don't let you do that these days but the club are bringing those days back with the free child season tickets.

Well done.

[salmonbuddie]

Well said davidg.

From the Free Dictionary

Jeremiah [ˌdʒɛrɪˈmaɪə]
n
1. (Christian Religious Writings / Bible) Old Testament
a. a major prophet of Judah from about 626 to 587 bc
b. the book containing his oracles
2. a person who habitually prophesies doom or denounces contemporary society

Someone's given their game plan away.

[marrez]

Well we know they had sold 1000 season tickets of last week as thats when the free kids shirts ran out, so not huge sales by any means, we extended the deadline obviously because sales were not going well.

[faraway saint]

Well we know they had sold 1000 season tickets of last week as thats when the free kids shirts ran out, so not huge sales by any means, we extended the deadline obviously because sales were not going well.

Thanks Jeremiah.

[Ayrshire Saints]

We must have some of the most negative "fans" on this earth. Why the hell anyone would want to twist a positive statement from the club into a negative one is beyond me. WTF has the financial side of season tickets got to do with the average supporter. Surely it's all about getting more fans into the ground on match days. Far to many (not so well) hidden agendas on here. You either buy a ST or you don't but to criticise the club for stating sales are up on on the same period last year is beyon comprehension. I'm convinced several who post on here want to see the club relegated and / or bust but for what reason ???