Sonny Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Thanks to Vambo for this ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Utter nonsense the he had already committed, watch the damned highlights with some sense of objectivity would you. Thomson is already on his way down, something like 75 yards from goal and the ball was there to be pinched very easily. McGinn would have knicked it off of Thomson's toe, McLean would have either sat off a yard and picked up the loose ball or knicked it. Either way, we'd have been laughing at Thomson falling on his arse as we moved in on goal. Both are exceptionally gifted, there's no comparison. Just how was Thomson going to ghost past anyone whilst on the deck? Utter baloney as usual. As Goodwin slides in the referee has already blown for a foul for McLean bumping into Thomson and then blows for a second time after Goodwin's challenge. Your scenario of McLean or McGinn nicking the ball and going through on goal as you laugh at Thomson falling on his arse... if only Goodwin hadn't got involved, is pure fantasy. Watch the damned highlights with some sense of objectivity would you - instead of through your usual I-hate-Jim-Goodwin-lenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) I like Jim Goodwin. He does the dirty work that nobody else in our team would/could do. A look at the fair play league as of the 20th April reveals that St Mirren sit second as a team, behind only Celtic, who are not challenged and therefore do not need to foul as much, while also benefiting from referees' favour. If you removed Jim Goodwin from our squad, in theory we would be top of the fair play league by some distance (7 points) - but, and this is supposition on my part - I bet we would have fewer points in the league that matters, as we would be a total walkover for more physical teams. Every team needs someone to pick up these cards - it just happens that almost a quarter of ours are channelled through one player. Stats here: http://espnfc.com/stats/fairplay/_/league/sco.1/scottish-premiership?cc=5739 What is interesting is that our second 'worst' player is John McGinn, with 8 yellows, yet he is not seen as a liability or a suspension waiting to happen. He is, in fact, our best player. Also interesting is that Hamill, Bannigan and Pascali are punching at Goodwin's weight, yet have achieved nowhere near the same level of media demonisation. Edited April 24, 2014 by Magic Monkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Footage from BBC Alba's replay of Kevin Thomson's elbow in Paul McGowan's face (original incident 4 minutes 8 seconds into the match). Sadly we didn't get to see this from a few angles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint in exile Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I like Jim Goodwin. He does the dirty work that nobody else in our team would/could do. A look at the fair play league as of the 20th April reveals that St Mirren sit second as a team, behind only Celtic, who are not challenged and therefore do not need to foul as much, while also benefiting from referees' favour. If you removed Jim Goodwin from our squad, in theory we would be top of the fair play league by some distance (7 points) - but, and this is supposition on my part - I bet we would have fewer points in the league that matters, as we would be a total walkover for more physical teams. Every team needs someone to pick up these cards - it just happens that almost a quarter of ours are channelled through one player. Stats here: http://espnfc.com/stats/fairplay/_/league/sco.1/scottish-premiership?cc=5739 What is interesting is that our second 'worst' player is John McGinn, with 8 yellows, yet he is not seen as a liability or a suspension waiting to happen. He is, in fact, our best player. Also interesting is that Hamill, Bannigan and Pascali are punching at Goodwin's weight, yet have achieved nowhere near the same level of media demonisation. No doubt Goodwin does some stupid things and at times he's a liability. On a few occasions this saeson he's been rightly benched and he's deserved a few stints out of the team. However, as has been said, he does the dirty work that nobody else will do when it needs to be done. I reckon that we're a weaker team without him (as long as he's not playing centre half) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E=Mc2 Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 New footage showing Jim never touched him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27137939 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Isma won us a penalty by diving. I believe Goodwin will lose his appeal, there is enough doubt for the panel to turn it down. Speaking to neutrals some of them think that it was a bad tackle. I hope I'm wrong but I can't see us winning this appeal. Hopefully the panel with have people who know about football on it. Neutral fans aren't in fact neutral when it comes to players like Goodwin, whose reputation goes before him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Will the persecuted one being playing in goal again, for the game on Friday? Only as and when required... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevo123 Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 good point about the elbow on McGowan maybe it will be picked up by the video panel ( or not), im not a Goodwin fan but he did not clatter that hibs cheat who has done nothing in football apart from being a dirty cheat. okay jim Goodwin has a reputation and opposition players play on this . I personally hope the red card stays as we will be a better team without Goodwin always a chance he will get sent off and its other pressure we just don't need. if your the opposition manager you would be telling your players to get under his skin . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Hopefully the panel with have people who know about football on it. Neutral fans aren't in fact neutral when it comes to players like Goodwin, whose reputation goes before him.Unlike you who isn't neutral.Perhaps we need a biased panel because these neutral panels are hopeless. Edited April 24, 2014 by Kendo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Unlike you who isn't neutral. One of the guys at my work who is an Aberdeen fan, said that it was a ridiculous decision and never sending off. He's a neutral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 One of the guys at my work who is an Aberdeen fan, said that it was a ridiculous decision and never sending off. He's a neutral. But according to scotty neutral fans are all against Goodwin? He can't be neutral, he's a closet Buddie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drogheda Saint Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Glad appeal successful. Have to applaud Magic Monkey for objective post. That says it all. We have no-one else who can fill that role. He is consistently solid. Breaking up play inevitably results in the odd mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 I said earlier, a great decision by the club to appeal his red card. Could have earned us a point tonight and showed real class by not making a meal of some hard tackles on him. Stand up Jim Goodwin. There ye go Goodwin haters, the mans very important for us. If you cant see that............................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddies1877 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Jim was brilliant tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Jim was brilliant tonight Indeed he was. MotM by a country mile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Glad appeal successful. Have to applaud Magic Monkey for objective post. That says it all. We have no-one else who can fill that role. He is consistently solid. Breaking up play inevitably results in the odd mistake. Was it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Bundy Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Indeed he was. MotM by a country mile.First Class, Leadership shown throughout. Respect for a first class Professional Indeed he was. MotM by a country mile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yardley Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Great performance from Goodwin tonight! He's such an influential player for us - good use of the ball and put in some great challenges as always!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanarkshire_Bud Posted April 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Singled out for a lot of the rough treatment....which is fine. If you dish it out then you have to expect to take it. Jim did with the minimal of fuss. Heavy challenges on him a couple of time yet he immediately popped up to his feet and got on with it......you know? Like men do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambud Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Defo man of the match in my book. He shook of their shenanigans and played football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambud Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 But according to scotty neutral fans are all against Goodwin? He can't be neutral, he's a closet Buddie.they might not be against him but they may doubt him on a lot of occasions to quote a saints player:"@Josh_Magennis: @Hambud1987 thought he had serious anger issues and needed help but workin with him one of the nicest guys I no." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickMcD Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 If Jim Goodwin played like that every week and the rest of the boys were anything like their best, we would be challenging for second or third place in the league. Jim was immense. A pleasure to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 If Jim Goodwin played like that every week and the rest of the boys were anything like their best, we would be challenging for second or third place in the league. Jim was immense. A pleasure to watch. Breathalyser please.................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickMcD Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Breathalyser please.................... Well, I honestly believe that. At our best we're a handful for any team in the league but we're so inconsistent. Last night we played all right and got the point but our norm is either playing really well or absolutely rubbish. Nothing in between. Is that you offering to buy me a Guinness? I'll meet you in The Crown in Great Victoria Street. When suits you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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