ulysses Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) http://www.saintmirren.net/pages/?p=45343 Talks have been held with Conlan and Howieson with a view to signing. All other trialists, including Reilly, have been told that they won't be offered a deal. Edited July 20, 2015 by ulysses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 Surprised at Howieson based on the feedback on here. At least Conlan will cover off the left of defence, if he signs. Not surprised all the others are away, based on on what Murray said after the game. He sounded disappointed with the standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabuddies Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 Neither Conlan nor Howieson exactly set the heather on fire on Saturday but the manager has been working with them for a couple of weeks so he must see something in them to make them an offer. His standards with regard to trialists seems quite high going by recent comments attributed to him so I'm prepared to reserve judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 That means Rooney and that big striker have been released too? Bit harsh, they only got 15 minutes each. Surprised at Howieson being kept to be honest, Murray must have seen something in training. On Saturdays evidence I'd rather have McLear and/or Morgan in the team than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
class of 76-77 Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 Big Shaun Rooney is back tomorrow for another weeks training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulysses Posted July 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 Big Shaun Rooney is back tomorrow for another weeks training. Oh, good news. I liked the look of him. Strange that the statement didn't include that info though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 Oh, good news. I liked the look of him. Strange that the statement didn't include that info though. Indeed. There was only 5 trialists involved yeah? The statement names 3 of them and says the rest - meaning the other 2 you'd think - had been let go. But apparently 1 of them hasn't actually been let go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 Howieson is a new Zealand internationalist who was interesting Newcastle and Liverpool a couple of years ago. I'm glad Murray is seeing his potential and not judging him on one pre season kick about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 What happened to the players Murray said he had identified as targets? All we seem to have is a revolving door for multiple 'trialists'! Shouldnt he know already know what these guys are capable of if they have been 'identified'? I get you will always look at trialists, but normally they are players from outside Scotland that havent been assesed. It appears this is the only method Murray has to bring players in, and it is extremely haphazard and time consuming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) Rooney was the pick of the bunch on Saturday. Good attitude and physique as well as being able to play. A bit raw but looks like he has loads of potential. Edited July 20, 2015 by Sonny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 That means Rooney and that big striker have been released too? Bit harsh, they only got 15 minutes each. Surprised at Howieson being kept to be honest, Murray must have seen something in training. On Saturdays evidence I'd rather have McLear and/or Morgan in the team than him. Agree with pretty much all of that, although Rooney had been with us for a week and I assume played against Oldham. I can only assume the striker must have been utter pish in training today (or not bothered to show up at all). Deciding he's not good enough based on a day or two at the end of last week and 20 minutes is a bit unfair. Hopefully the trialists we have this week are of slightly better quality and pedigree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmurray24 Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 Howieson played a lot better up at Inverness. Agree he did not look as good on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
class of 76-77 Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 Oh, good news. I liked the look of him. Strange that the statement didn't include that info though. His agent just found out today so it's good news as he gets the chance to show what he can do. He was behind in terms of fitness levels but now that he's been doing double sessions he's just about up to speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andysmfc13 Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 I Can't seem to get onto official site, anyone copy and paste? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 I get you will always look at trialists, but normally they are players from outside Scotland that havent been assesed. It appears this is the only method Murray has to bring players in, and it is extremely haphazard and time consuming. I am shocked and stunned that you've taken this news and applied an anti-Murray slant to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 Looks like Murray should be replaced by some of the experts above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulysses Posted July 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 I Can't seem to get onto official site, anyone copy and paste? "It has been confirmed that manager Ian Murray has held talks with Luke Conlon and Cameron Howieson with a view to signing following their trial period at the Club. Both players had playing time in Saturday’s pre-season friendly against Bradford City. Thomas Reilly and the other remaining trialists who took part in Saturday’s game against Bradford City have been told by Ian Murray that they won’t be offered a deal by the club. A further closed doors match has been arranged this week as Ian Murray runs the rule over a number of other players as well as helping the squad get game time ahead of this weekend’s Petrofac Training Cup tie with Berwick Rangers." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 I am shocked and stunned that you've taken this news and applied an anti-Murray slant to it. Reported, sarcasm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Calder Saint Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 Strange how opinions differ I actually thought Howieson was impressive v Bradford.His distribution in particular for me was spot on.Re Conlan I would reserve judgment however the manager obviously sees something there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 I'm glad the boy Rooney is getting another chance. When you see the other teams that have been mentioned as interested, he must have great potential. Some may argue with Murray's methods on trialists, since there hasn't been many transfers so far, though I am happy we aren't just signing players for the sake of it. We have made too many mistakes in the past, so assessing players, rather than basing a contract on reputation is a far safer way to operate. As mentioned above, the boy Howieson has a few international caps and at one stage had bigger cubs looking at him, but we have brought him in, played him in a few games and assessed his pre-season fitness and ability. One of my mates reckoned Conlan is still contracted to Burnley and its only a loan deal, though i'm pretty sure I read that both him and Howieson were free agents. Can anyone confirm? Hopefully a backup goalie and a couple of strikers are next on the agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbie Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 Thank God we finally have a manager who can see that Thomas Reilly is nowhere near good enough. Never has been, never will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Of Ewen Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 One of my mates reckoned Conlan is still contracted to Burnley and its only a loan deal, though i'm pretty sure I read that both him and Howieson were free agents. Can anyone confirm? Hopefully a backup goalie and a couple of striagenda. Signed a one year extension last summer http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2749669/Luke-Conlan-rejoins-Burnley-one-year-contract-overcoming-knee-problem.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddies1877 Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 Surprised at howieson seen him in the Ayr and Bradford games playing left mid didn't see him take on one player or put in one cross, but maybe Murray has seen something in him in training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosferatu Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 Big Shaun Rooney is back tomorrow for another weeks training. Good. He was the best trlalist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 Good. He was the best trlalist. Agreed. He was raw but reminded me of big Broadfoot at that age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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