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so you don't support it then, that's a pity.

So because he agrees with a stance made by SNP councillors more than a decade ago, it means he must agree with a stance taken by SNP councillors a few days ago.

Christ, and I thought the cybernats were bad!

And before I'm accused of any political bias, I have no strong feelings on any particular political party at local, Holyrood or Westminster level. The only exception is those councillors who voted against the planning applications in 2005 - regardless of which party they were.

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Ah when thieves fall out. It would be nice if either or both of Scotland's big two parties actually stood up for working people and refused to implement Tory austerity cuts! Instead they both say a big boy done it and ran away! The SNP blame the Tories and then make their cuts at Holyrood Labour blame the SNP and make the cuts at local level. Both think the answer is for working people to pay for austerity by taxing the working class more whether by a 1p increase on income tax or increases in council tax bandings. One's as bad as the other and both do the Tories dirty work. I'm voting TUSC for socialism.

That's like saying i would refuse to abandon a lavish lifestyle to satisfy the conditions impsed by my fixed income.

Trotskyist bullshit

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so you don't support it then, that's a pity.

How convenient. You managed to ignore my question.

For the record, if it ever happens, then great. Although I believe there are much more pressing matters that the money could be spent on.

If it doesn't happen, then I'll not lose much sleep.

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Ah when thieves fall out. It would be nice if either or both of Scotland's big two parties actually stood up for working people and refused to implement Tory austerity cuts! Instead they both say a big boy done it and ran away! The SNP blame the Tories and then make their cuts at Holyrood Labour blame the SNP and make the cuts at local level. Both think the answer is for working people to pay for austerity by taxing the working class more whether by a 1p increase on income tax or increases in council tax bandings. One's as bad as the other and both do the Tories dirty work. I'm voting TUSC for socialism.

"Socialism" fs
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How convenient. You managed to ignore my question.

For the record, if it ever happens, then great. Although I believe there are much more pressing matters that the money could be spent on.

If it doesn't happen, then I'll not lose much sleep.

it was a stupid question, bit like you, and as for Stu of course your not political !
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it was a stupid question, bit like you, and as for Stu of course your not political !

And this, ladies and gents, is why local government is in such a mess.

Won't (or most likely can't) answer a straightforward question, and then calls somebody stupid.

You'd think someone who calls someone else stupid, could muster the basic skills to construct a sentence with the correct grammar and punctuation.

Sweep! Sweep! wink.png

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That's like saying i would refuse to abandon a lavish lifestyle to satisfy the conditions impsed by my fixed income.

Trotskyist bullshit

Whatever the argument you can bet the poorer the person the bigger the percentage impact on their disposable income. Osborne is busy passing off by smoke and mirrors that the tax cut from 50% to 45% on the highest income tax rate has brought in more tax in when all that happened was people delayed paying income tax until after the rate was reduced. On a different topic if anyone can tell me how increasing the inheritance tax threshold to £1m promotes a meritocracy let me know.

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http://www.paisley.org.uk/2017/02/councillors-consider-ambitious-plans-transform-ferguslie-park/

Looks like there's an update going before a council committee next week. A cynical person would think there was an election coming up...

From the artist's impression it seems to be mainly football pitches with a few other bits and bobs. At the risk of sounding like a former forum member, the lack of an athletics track does seem a bit odd. Can only assume it's felt the track at Linwood is close enough to cover that one. Would have thought there'd be tennis courts too and veldrome, although the outdoor course must be the "cycling track" referred to in the original.

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25 minutes ago, Stu said:

http://www.paisley.org.uk/2017/02/councillors-consider-ambitious-plans-transform-ferguslie-park/

Looks like there's an update going before a council committee next week. A cynical person would think there was an election coming up...

From the artist's impression it seems to be mainly football pitches with a few other bits and bobs. At the risk of sounding like a former forum member, the lack of an athletics track does seem a bit odd. Can only assume it's felt the track at Linwood is close enough to cover that one. Would have thought there'd be tennis courts too and veldrome, although the outdoor course must be the "cycling track" referred to in the original.

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This looks brilliant.

Like you, I hope they cater for as many sports as possible and certainly more than just football.

I love ambitious plans like this. IMO we must be doing this sort of thing all over the country.

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2 minutes ago, northstbuddie said:

Will this 'ambitious' project include the the basic surfacing (not resurfacing) of pavements in adjoining streets and the upliftment of litter?

At present you are well advised to wear wellington boots in order to avoid the puddles and muck.

That will be the hop, skip and jump course.

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36 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

This looks brilliant.

Like you, I hope they cater for as many sports as possible and certainly more than just football.

I love ambitious plans like this. IMO we must be doing this sort of thing all over the country.

 

1 hour ago, Stu said:

http://www.paisley.org.uk/2017/02/councillors-consider-ambitious-plans-transform-ferguslie-park/

Looks like there's an update going before a council committee next week. A cynical person would think there was an election coming up...

From the artist's impression it seems to be mainly football pitches with a few other bits and bobs. At the risk of sounding like a former forum member, the lack of an athletics track does seem a bit odd. Can only assume it's felt the track at Linwood is close enough to cover that one. Would have thought there'd be tennis courts too and veldrome, although the outdoor course must be the "cycling track" referred to in the original.

Artist-impressions-of-Ferguslie-Park-Reg

I've got a couple of questions on the artists impression:

Is that new housing behind the family stand?

Does St. Mirren not own a chunk of the land across the road from the away end, nearest the railway (The C shaped building up to the second pitch?). If so, are they selling this ground to the council then renting it out, or just basically getting the funding for the development to happen and its ours?

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4 minutes ago, kevo_smfc said:

 

I've got a couple of questions on the artists impression:

Is that new housing behind the family stand?

Does St. Mirren not own a chunk of the land across the road from the away end, nearest the railway (The C shaped building up to the second pitch?). If so, are they selling this ground to the council then renting it out, or just basically getting the funding for the development to happen and its ours?

Firstly...that and the absence of the dome were my first impressions of the plan. If that's the case, then it's good to have some regeneration on that front as well.

Secondly, I believe they do....I actually thought it was more or less the entire span of the ground down to the wee shop.

 

This looks absolutely fantastic though! And that's in spite of SMFC not being involved in any sort of drive or initiatives to help benefit the local community. Oh...wait!

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37 minutes ago, northstbuddie said:

Will this 'ambitious' project include the the basic surfacing (not resurfacing) of pavements in adjoining streets and the upliftment of litter?

At present you are well advised to wear wellington boots in order to avoid the puddles and muck.

And dont forget a special decontamination team to rid the surrounding streets of Dug Shite !!

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17 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

Firstly...that and the absence of the dome were my first impressions of the plan. If that's the case, then it's good to have some regeneration on that front as well.

Secondly, I believe they do....I actually thought it was more or less the entire span of the ground down to the wee shop.

 

This looks absolutely fantastic though! And that's in spite of SMFC not being involved in any sort of drive or initiatives to help benefit the local community. Oh...wait!

There's a possibility that the dome wasn't necessary for the visual as the ground it sits on is covered, though the new indoor facility in the proposal could well be the reason too. Less maintenance for something that is in need of repair from time to time.

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The Council will also take forward a landmark proposal to deliver a £15 million regional sports village in Ferguslie with state-of-the-art facilities for local people and elite athletes. The project will be developed in partnership with The University of the West of Scotland (UWS), and St Mirren FC, with the council pledging £7.5m towards the joint costs of both Paisley north-west projects.

 

Does this mean St Mirren are involved in a community project? Is it for the wider community, or just the St Mirren supporting community? The elite athlete community? Should we be reporting anyone to Rip Off Britain? Gloria Hunniford will kick ass on this.

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40 minutes ago, northstbuddie said:

Will this 'ambitious' project include the the basic surfacing (not resurfacing) of pavements in adjoining streets and the upliftment of litter?

At present you are well advised to wear wellington boots in order to avoid the puddles and muck.

Pot hole central that road, feel like burt reynolds in dukes of hazzard driving from one end to the other.

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Dont forget , the Dome has a finite Lifespan and most would say its probably halfway throught it already. IMO .If we get five more years of the Dome we will be doing well. By that time these plans might have just about come to fruition ( if they can rustle up the cash) and the Dome may be replaced with a more Ravenscraig type structure on a shared use deal ?

Saints come to some agreement to release land owned by the club in return for long term tenancy / lease on the new facility ?

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