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2 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

Conveniently you skip the issue again. I never said you hid, at least not behind a pseudonym or alias on here. What you DO insist on hiding behind though is a pretence that you are some sort of altruistic individual who is all about the community when those of us who have been around long enough to know better (which,  to be fair is most of us now) know you're actually a self-serving egomaniac. You are to 'community' what Tommy Sheridan is to socialism, you bang the drum loudest,  shout from the highest rooftop but on the sole proviso that you're the man being given all the plauditsand adulation and you're the one receiving the benefits of spearheading the community drive.  But when you're ignored for a f**king multitude of reasons, time and again you simply f**k off in a major strop. There is no point in denying or refuting this as its been well documented on here for the best part of 15 years now. 

You seem to have,  in your own head at least,  morphed yourself into a potential 'saviour' of this club,  offering up ideas and guidance in how to make it profitable  and genuinely,  no one will listen to you or give any type of leverage to you solely because of your attitude problems. 

Does SMISA need to improve? That is without doubt.  The statement directed at you a our getting back what you put in works both ways and I fully accept that. It concerns me however that whilst I've accepted your standpoint in turning what I've said against me in terms of SMFC and their place within the community  you seem to be ignoring the original and clear reasons behind the statement in the first place.  

What a load of shite that is. I've never once made myself out to be the saviour of the club. I've offered to share my ideas, and to put time and effort in to help. I've no interest in gaining adulation from St Mirren fans. Do I post like that is what I want? :rolleyes:

SMISA certainly needs to improve - not least to make itself compliant with it's own constitution, with the FCA guidelines on Community Benefit Societies and to refocus back on it's stated aims and goals. I've pointed out where they are failing and I've asked for information on when they expect to fix the issues. I've been ignored. That's entirely up to the SMiSA Board I guess, but I have six months from the date when I resigned to raise a grievance. 

Lastly as I've said I don't want anything from St MIrren FC or from SMiSA personally. I don't give a f**k if St Mirren fans love me or not. I don't know where you get the idea that I might care. I just want to see the Fan Ownership model work at St Mirren like it has done at so many other successful clubs and I'm bitterly disappointed that when its come to St Mirren it's turning out to be a shitfest with a board - both football club and SMISA - that absolutely fail to show competent leadership. 

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59 minutes ago, Stuart Dickson said:

 

Ok, well thanks for pointing that out. The account has now been deactivated like it should already have been. 

Its not the only one of your social media accounts which should be deactivated to be fair.

You are nothing more than a fake bake. Caught lying again. The others are right. You use this community stuff as a cover. You are no more interested in the community than those you attack. You use it for your own personal purposes.

Everyone can see straight through you.

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I fully accept that Stu does absolutely not thing to endear himself to St Mirren fans (quite the opposite) and accept that he does his best to rub them up the wrong way, but there's no escaping that he raises some valid points in the middle of his waffle.

It is disappointing that SMFC fans are constantly unable to identify the valid points and attack the poster himself in a "whataboutery" manner rather than actually deal with them for the benefit of the club.

Those who instantly dismiss his points are at least as equally as bad as the poster himself, if not worse.

If fans in positions of authority can't identify valid queries fan ownership is never going to succeed, where the person raising the query is a dik or not.

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The club has your phone number, address, e-mail address, and you offered SMiSA help. You have never taken a penny from the club. You are a strong advocate of football clubs doing good in the community, and, lest we forget, you steadfastly stood your ground in the boardroom to hammer the Rangers even in the hypothetical scenario whereby staff at St Mirren would lose their jobs. Others, including me, wavered. You didn't.
Sound like a good guy, yet no-one at the club is taking your calls or responding to your 'asset lock' and 'community' related rants.
Take the fcuking hint.


For that he should be applauded.

Anyone taking any other stance should be ashamed of themselves.

Without values sport (and therefore sporting companies) is completely worthless.
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25 minutes ago, civilsaint said:

I fully accept that Stu does absolutely not thing to endear himself to St Mirren fans (quite the opposite) and accept that he does his best to rub them up the wrong way

That's what puzzles me about djchapsticks post. I've got no reason to want to endear myself to St Mirren fans. Unlike others around these forums I'm not seeking their votes, I'm not looking to sell them anything, I don't have a product or a service that needs promoted and I've got zero links to any juvenile football club in the Paisley area - or any school or any other community group for that matter. And as for status - what status could I possibly be looking for? There's no hidden agenda for wanting St Mirren to be more community focused - it's exactly as I've stated it. The ONLY way St Mirren will reverse this constant march to the death of the club is if they realign their focus and start to work with the local community instead of treating the town like it's full of leeching lepers whilst issuing edicts that the people in the town should be supporting their local team. 

The hostility to the suggestion that the SMiSA should be focused on their regulatory position as a Community Benefit Society of only using their assets to benefit the local community says more than anything about how big a sham this Fan Ownership bid has become. And it's the  people who are being defended by the likes of djchapsticks who are the ones who are reliant on the votes of their membership to maintain their status. 

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6 hours ago, Stuart Dickson said:

That's what puzzles me about djchapsticks post. I've got no reason to want to endear myself to St Mirren fans. Unlike others around these forums I'm not seeking their votes, I'm not looking to sell them anything, I don't have a product or a service that needs promoted and I've got zero links to any juvenile football club in the Paisley area - or any school or any other community group for that matter. And as for status - what status could I possibly be looking for? There's no hidden agenda for wanting St Mirren to be more community focused - it's exactly as I've stated it. The ONLY way St Mirren will reverse this constant march to the death of the club is if they realign their focus and start to work with the local community instead of treating the town like it's full of leeching lepers whilst issuing edicts that the people in the town should be supporting their local team. 

The hostility to the suggestion that the SMiSA should be focused on their regulatory position as a Community Benefit Society of only using their assets to benefit the local community says more than anything about how big a sham this Fan Ownership bid has become. And it's the  people who are being defended by the likes of djchapsticks who are the ones who are reliant on the votes of their membership to maintain their status. 

What you are after is control over others.

You get a kick out of having people run around in circles dealing with your nonsense.

Plain and simple.

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7 hours ago, civilsaint said:

I fully accept that Stu does absolutely not thing to endear himself to St Mirren fans (quite the opposite) and accept that he does his best to rub them up the wrong way, but there's no escaping that he raises some valid points in the middle of his waffle.

It is disappointing that SMFC fans are constantly unable to identify the valid points and attack the poster himself in a "whataboutery" manner rather than actually deal with them for the benefit of the club.

Those who instantly dismiss his points are at least as equally as bad as the poster himself, if not worse.

If fans in positions of authority can't identify valid queries fan ownership is never going to succeed, where the person raising the query is a dik or not.

Rather than bitch about other fans why dont you simply name these golden nuggets of wisdom?

Apparently you believe you have some unique power to pan his shite for gold.

Lets hear these wonderful ideas?

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11 hours ago, Stuart Dickson said:

Kombi, I've been blitzed all week. Still no response from SMiSA but it made watching St Mirren much easier. 

Can we just agree that SMiSA aren't going to respond and accept that SMiSA are a f**king shambles run by a board who really shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the football club? I know I'm supposed to keep drinking till Monday but my son is playing tomorrow and I'd kinda like to be sober for that one. Unlike St Mirren, his team has got some capable footballers and they may even win. 

Stuart, I'll keep the faith that someone will respond but I am inclined to agree that it looks more likely not to happen. That's disappointing but I hope I am wrong.

It shouldn't matter a toss if you are the most annoying f**ker in the country or even the second most annoying c**t in the country, I'd have thought (& I remain hopeful) that the SMISA committee are above ignoring anyone. Folk should be able to filter out the utter garbage, the utter shite and the wanky pish that you, I or anyone else posts.

When  questions are put to SMISA, they should be able to not allow criticisms to affect them to the extent they go into shutdown mode but have the courtesy to respond. Especially on the BAWA board provided for that purpose, even if it is to say they won't be answering the questions. As REA indicated previously, failing to answer is an action that SMISA really should try avoiding.

Someone from SMISA responding to say "your questions/criticisms/or whatever are out of order and as a committee, we are not going to entertain any question you pose now or in the future" or something to that effect will be a whole lot more respectable than ignoring you completely.

Hope you enjoyed the beers as much as you enjoy your son' football today. We are off down to Basildon for my son' match today. Hoping for a win there too.

 

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9 hours ago, Stuart Dickson said:

The hostility to the suggestion that the SMiSA should be focused on their regulatory position as a Community Benefit Society of only using their assets to benefit the local community says more than anything about how big a sham this Fan Ownership bid has become. And it's the  people who are being defended by the likes of djchapsticks who are the ones who are reliant on the votes of their membership to maintain their status. 

Garbage and the usual twisting of facts from you. I'm defending no-one from SMiSA because I don't have an agenda to do so...if you can find me defending any individual or collective of SMiSA on any platform then I implore you to do so and provide this.

The closest to a 'defence' I've came across with is my displeasure at your practice of singling out people within the club (not SMiSA board reps) in an apparent attempt to shame them for doing what is, in your opinion, a bad job. I also have stated in the past that the entire process is a work in progress and it should be treated as such by fans, it's right to question and offer suggestions and alternatives and part of this is accepting that not everything will be perfect or right first time and offer constructive alternatives or other ideas rather than hurling constant vitriol at the first opportunity. I've never been a member of SMiSA before the buyout and have no personal attachment to anyone within the organisation. In fact it's fair to say that without the proposed buyout, I wouldn't have ever bothered my arse joining them.

What I am hostile towards, is not the suggestions mooted or criticism levelled at SMiSA or the club, if done in a constructive manner. My (and I'd imagine many others') hostility is the fact that it's being done by an individual who has tried relentlessly to undermine everything connected with the club in the last 15 years and continues to do so. I don't care how many times you bleat away on this site that you have no hidden agenda. Several dozen of us know you're lying through your teeth and are complete control freak who wants to be the tail that wags the dog.

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3 hours ago, Kombibuddie said:

Stuart, I'll keep the faith that someone will respond but I am inclined to agree that it looks more likely not to happen. That's disappointing but I hope I am wrong.

It shouldn't matter a toss if you are the most annoying f**ker in the country or even the second most annoying c**t in the country, I'd have thought (& I remain hopeful) that the SMISA committee are above ignoring anyone. Folk should be able to filter out the utter garbage, the utter shite and the wanky pish that you, I or anyone else posts.

When  questions are put to SMISA, they should be able to not allow criticisms to affect them to the extent they go into shutdown mode but have the courtesy to respond. Especially on the BAWA board provided for that purpose, even if it is to say they won't be answering the questions. As REA indicated previously, failing to answer is an action that SMISA really should try avoiding.

Someone from SMISA responding to say "your questions/criticisms/or whatever are out of order and as a committee, we are not going to entertain any question you pose now or in the future" or something to that effect will be a whole lot more respectable than ignoring you completely.

Hope you enjoyed the beers as much as you enjoy your son' football today. We are off down to Basildon for my son' match today. Hoping for a win there too.

 

Thanks Kombi. My sons team won 7-1. Solid performance if not their best of the season. Hope your lads did well too. .

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1 hour ago, Stuart Dickson said:

Thanks Kombi. My sons team won 7-1. Solid performance if not their best of the season. Hope your lads did well too. .

Graet stuff. We won 7-0 and keeps us 2nd in the division. Play the team at the top at ours next week which will be a bit of a grudge match. We beat them home & away last season. We lost at theirs 4 weeks ago but I am confident we'll beat them at ours next week.

I'll keep the faith on that, St Mirren & SMISA.

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Thank f**k someone posted a new picture. The previous pic posted in this thread was StuD in all his glory and the app shows the latest pic beside the thread title. I was tempted to post a Scotland pic just to get rid of it...

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I think we can all accept that Stuart is now going to attack SMiSA at every single opportunity. It will be utterly relentless.

We had ten years of bile towards Stewart Gilmour from this man. Absolutely tore him and his board to shreds every other week. It was a campaign of hatred, there is really no other word for it.

Now we are seeing the same thing unfolding with SMiSA.

There may well be some good ideas in amongst the hatred, but you can't really blame anyone at SMiSA or anyone here on the forum, for ignoring it all.

A bit like the boy who cried wolf, Stuart has become a tired parody who is simply here to berate the club and all around it.

You have to ask yourself why a grown man, who openly admits he does not support St.Mirren, and who is now no longer a SMiSA member, would spend so much time on a St.Mirren forum.

It's borderline creepy.

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19 hours ago, shull said:

A Forum Swearbox would be an ideal addition.

The contents of which could be donated to Jack's Budget or even to the Community.

Can i put a tenner in up front to have a real go at letting off steam at the usual wankers (f**k, thats another 20p !!) Oh f...

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16 minutes ago, Callum Gilhooley said:

Can i put a tenner in up front to have a real go go a letting off steam at the usual wankers (f**k, thats another 20p !!) Oh f...

We should set up one for individuals who make hundreds of boring repetitive posts every week.

A certain poster would be bankrupt after a week.

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2 minutes ago, FTOF said:

We should set up one for individuals who make hundreds of boring repetitive posts every week.

A certain poster would be bankrupt after a week.

See , i was already getting so worked up i f**ked up my post !   Ach f... i`ll be f*ckn bankrupt by the end of the f**kin week at this rate.

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36 minutes ago, FTOF said:

We should set up one for individuals who make hundreds of boring repetitive posts every week.

A certain poster would be bankrupt after a week.

Why are you bringing shull into it?

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9 hours ago, div said:

I think we can all accept that Stuart is now going to attack SMiSA at every single opportunity. It will be utterly relentless.

We had ten years of bile towards Stewart Gilmour from this man. Absolutely tore him and his board to shreds every other week. It was a campaign of hatred, there is really no other word for it.

Now we are seeing the same thing unfolding with SMiSA.

There may well be some good ideas in amongst the hatred, but you can't really blame anyone at SMiSA or anyone here on the forum, for ignoring it all.

A bit like the boy who cried wolf, Stuart has become a tired parody who is simply here to berate the club and all around it.

You have to ask yourself why a grown man, who openly admits he does not support St.Mirren, and who is now no longer a SMiSA member, would spend so much time on a St.Mirren forum.

It's borderline creepy.

If it's so damaging to everything St Mirren why do you allow it to continue? Apart from a few who would lose their main pass time in replying/abusing him surely the forum would be happier?

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If it's so damaging to everything St Mirren why do you allow it to continue? Apart from a few who would lose their main pass time in replying/abusing him surely the forum would be happier?


You could say that about a few posters on here to be honest.

If he breaks the rules then he'll go, same as anyone else.
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