shull Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 The Clubs just above us may be severely psychologically damaged after hearing what the great Brendan said about us being a wonderful football team. Shitting it from the St Mirren. We will stroll it ramorra night and the rest of the Season. We will finish 7th thanks to Mr Rodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 7 hours ago, David Mc said: Think the point may have been we need to break the cycle of paying off/scaking managers rather than not being able to afford it. Chicken and egg situation - once we get a successful manager it won't be an issue. A manager who presides over us finishing 10th in the second tier couldn't be described as successful. I hope we finish 9th or better and that JR goes on to have a successful tenure with the club, if that happens he'll go to a club with more financial muscle - that's football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mc Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Chicken and egg situation - once we get a successful manager it won't be an issue. A manager who presides over us finishing 10th in the second tier couldn't be described as successful. I hope we finish 9th or better and that JR goes on to have a successful tenure with the club, if that happens he'll go to a club with more financial muscle - that's football. Indeed and the board should be keeping an eye on possible future managers at all times regardless of how any current manager is doing. The previous board had no clear recruitment strategy as far as I could see. What we'd give for a nice wee run like Ferguson, Clunie, MacFarlane and Miller none of them experienced or expensive managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Bump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edinbuddie Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Bringing in 10 players in January and blending them into a hard working, effective and motivated team that have been regularly picking up big wins and points within a few weeks, scoring goals from pre-planned set piece moves, creating a positive mood around the team and club, engaging with the supporters and clearly understanding the importance of a bond between the team, club and fans beating Dundee, Hibs and Dundee Utd No-one's perfect and he's made some mistakes but aye, he's doing alright for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 4 hours ago, Edinbuddie said: Bringing in 10 players in January and blending them into a hard working, effective and motivated team that have been regularly picking up big wins and points within a few weeks, scoring goals from pre-planned set piece moves, creating a positive mood around the team and club, engaging with the supporters and clearly understanding the importance of a bond between the team, club and fans beating Dundee, Hibs and Dundee Utd No-one's perfect and he's made some mistakes but aye, he's doing alright for me. But apart from all that what's he done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kendo said: But apart from all that what's he done. Maintained our league position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Saint Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 21 hours ago, faraway saint said: Maintained our league position? And taken us to the sooper dooper cup final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted March 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 22 hours ago, faraway saint said: Maintained our league position? Technically, it could be argued that he has improved our league position. To put it another way, it would surely be hard to argue that our league position hasn't improved. As such, it hasn't been maintained, otherwise we would be in the same position (ie - trailing by 8 points or thereabouts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Just now, Drew said: Technically, it could be argued that he has improved our league position. To put it another way, it would surely be hard to argue that our league position hasn't improved. As such, it hasn't been maintained, otherwise we would be in the same position (ie - trailing by 8 points or thereabouts). Wrong. Our league position was bottom, we are still bottom. Now, I know, if you try, you can understand this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Drew said: Technically, it could be argued that he has improved our league position. To put it another way, it would surely be hard to argue that our league position hasn't improved. As such, it hasn't been maintained, otherwise we would be in the same position (ie - trailing by 8 points or thereabouts). Sometimes you've just got to accept that dunderheid is correct. Hopefully we will start climbing the league. However until this happens then we need to hod oor wheesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, Kendo said: Sometimes you've just got to accept that dunderheid is correct. Hopefully we will start climbing the league. However until this happens then we need to hod oor wheesh. Finally, a good post. I knew you could do it, after all these years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted March 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Wrong. Our league position was bottom, we are still bottom. Now, I know, if you try, you can understand this. 19 minutes ago, Kendo said: Sometimes you've just got to accept that dunderheid is correct. Hopefully we will start climbing the league. However until this happens then we need to hod oor wheesh. Nope - that's the unsophisticated analysis (I expect that of faraway, but I'm disappointed in you, Kendo). Let's look at it another way.... A team sitting in second place in the league, trailing the top team by, say, 8 points, manage to close the gap to a single point. Would you suggest they are in a better position having closed the gap, or had merely maintained their position? Now, I know, if you try, you can understand this Edited March 17, 2017 by Drew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Drew said: Nope - that's the unsophisticated analysis (I expect that of faraway, but I'm disappointed in you, Kendo). Let's look at it another way.... A team sitting in second place in the league, trailing the top team by, say, 8 points, manage to close the gap to a single point. Would you suggest they are in a better position having closed the gap, or had merely maintained their position? Now, I know, if you try, you can understand this Position in the league when JR took over....................bottom. Position umpteen months later........................bottom. I suppose you will be happy if we're still bottom but are closer on goal difference to the team above us at the end of the season.....................progress? PS Don't get excited about Tantrums "like", it's his way of telling me I get up his nose. PPS Yours is a sophisticated analysis? Edited March 17, 2017 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted March 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Position in the league when JR took over....................bottom. Position umpteen months later........................bottom. I suppose you will be happy if we're still bottom but are closer on goal difference to the team above us at the end of the season.....................progress? PS Don't get excited about Tantrums "like", it's his way of telling me I get up his nose. PPS Yours is a sophisticated analysis? Dearie me. One last time.... Are you suggesting that we are not in a better position now than we were as the transfer window closed? Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 34 minutes ago, Drew said: Dearie me. One last time.... Are you suggesting that we are not in a better position now than we were as the transfer window closed? Seriously? Dearie me............... Are you suggesting our league position is better than it was when JR took over? Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 41 minutes ago, Drew said: Dearie me. One last time.... Are you suggesting that we are not in a better position now than we were as the transfer window closed? Seriously? Have patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted March 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Kendo said: Have patience. Jesus wept. Aye, if you say so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 28 minutes ago, Drew said: Jesus wept. Aye, if you say so Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Just now, Kendo said: Thanks. Don't FFS. All I said was a rather, if factually correct, flippant post and Drew has flipped. It's ok, he'll be ok in a day or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Clearly being one point below the second bottom team isn't any better than being ten points below the second bottom team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted March 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 1 minute ago, faraway saint said: Don't FFS. All I said was a rather, if factually correct, flippant post and Drew has flipped. It's ok, he'll be ok in a day or so. I think I'll leave you two lovebirds to it. Three's a crowd, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 1 minute ago, FTOF said: Clearly being one point below the second bottom team isn't any better than being ten points below the second bottom team. In league position, you are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted March 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 1 minute ago, FTOF said: Clearly being one point below the second bottom team isn't any better than being ten points below the second bottom team. I think I might have intruded during some pillow talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Drew said: I think I'll leave you two lovebirds to it. Three's a crowd, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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