Guest TPAFKATS Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Interview with DL in both Record http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/tommy-craig-knifed-back-st-9995805 and also The Hootsman http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/hearts/rise-of-austin-macphee-was-resented-at-st-mirren-lennon-1-4387509 Interestingly he claims he was stabbed in the back by Tommy Craig who also resented McPhee's involvement. Seems Craig was bad mouthing Lennon and McPhee to players. Makes his appointment as DL's replacement by the previous board all the more bizarre! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddie-Boy Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Seems to me like he's talking a lot of sense. I liked Danny Lennon and was sorry to see him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Hopefully this is DL trying to raise his profile when there's a coupla managerial vacancies on the go - good luck to him! Fascinating Revelations for Saints fans tho'............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Well he got Cowdenbeath up 2 Divisions and they are now bottom of League 3........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 2 hours ago, TPAFKATS said: Interview with DL in both Record http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/tommy-craig-knifed-back-st-9995805 and also The Hootsman http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/hearts/rise-of-austin-macphee-was-resented-at-st-mirren-lennon-1-4387509 Interestingly he claims he was stabbed in the back by Tommy Craig who also resented McPhee's involvement. Seems Craig was bad mouthing Lennon and McPhee to players. Makes his appointment as DL's replacement by the previous board all the more bizarre! For me I found it interesting that Lennon claimed Craig had also bad mouthed him to the BoD and that Thompson and Teale seemed to largely back up Lennon's claims that Craig would try and unpick and undo what Lennon tried to do in a coaching session and would go in a huff in Lennon or McPhee did any coaching! The two former players also seemed to agree with Lennon's claims that Craig's methods were old school and repetitive and he had no rapport with the players. Teale went as far as to say Lennon's only main mistake as St Mirren manager was not to get rid of Tommy Craig after it became clear they were divided as a management team during their final 6-12 months together. (Given Teale was promoted to assistant manager / coach by Tommy Craig you might have expected him to be more diplomatic / neutral in response to DL's interview) The players did credit Tommy Craig as being good with younger players at coaching them in the basics and having lots of experience to pass on, and it was mentioned Craig's coaching and his emphasis on passing was part of the reason why the team played entertaining football in the season where Teale, Thompson, Goodwin etc all signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddies1877 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Is spot on the reason we are in this mess comes from tommy Craig and the decision by the board to appoint him. I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Chick Young was class when speaking about the signing of Callum Ball as well making the point that everyone could tell by looking at him that he wasn't fit enough to be a professional footballer playing in the SPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggie Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 55 minutes ago, Dibbles old paperboy said: Chick Young was class when speaking about the signing of Callum Ball as well making the point that everyone could tell by looking at him that he wasn't fit enough to be a professional footballer playing in the SPL. Exactly ! I said at the time that Craig thought so highly of Scottish football that he believed English lower and non league players could do a job here. This of course was found to be nonsense, as was the appointment of Craig. Lennon latterly proved also to be useless and ought to have been removed a year before he eventually was. His subsequent managerial record proves this. I blame neither Lennon, Craig, Teale, Rae or Murray, it was the incompetents who employed them who are to blame for our current plight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jake Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Good to hear folk being honest and outspoken for once, but I wish DL had been strong enough to have sacked Craig once he realised he was being back stabbed especially with players coming to him reporting trouble at the club. Where was the board at this point ??? [emoji57] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Big Jake said: Good to hear folk being honest and outspoken for once, but I wish DL had been strong enough to have sacked Craig once he realised he was being back stabbed especially with players coming to him reporting trouble at the club. Where was the board at this point ??? Could Lennon have sacked Craig? I reckon the only thing he could have done is go to the Board and say "it's him or me" and the likely outcome is that it would have been him (Lennon). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jake Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Could Lennon have sacked Craig? I reckon the only thing he could have done is go to the Board and say "it's him or me" and the likely outcome is that it would have been him (Lennon). More than likely , unfortunately [emoji53]Old board not coming out very well with these stories. Advised by experienced football people to avoid TC as manager but still continued. He wouldn't even have cost a coin to get rid of as he was also out of contract. Easy and lazy option in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TediousTom Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 I listened to the interview via the BBC website on the podcast player. One must say what a bloody good interview that was, not only that but the further discussion and analysis from the Thommhawk, The Chic Youngster and Mr G Teale was also agreeable. The appointment of young Thomas Craig was indeed a disaster and it was somewhat refreshing to hear such an honest interview. Thank you again Daniel Lennon and as ever I wish you all the best in your future career you decent man you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceblink Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Interesting take on it from Jon McShane: Jon McShane @JonMcshane9 4h4 hours ago More Cry me a river Danny Lennon... imagine every boy I seen him shaft came out in the press and spoke about his lies and deceit #potkettle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddies1877 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Interesting take on it from Jon McShane:Jon McShane @JonMcshane9 4h4 hours ago More Cry me a river Danny Lennon... imagine every boy I seen him shaft came out in the press and spoke about his lies and deceit #potkettle No Danny's fault he's shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Drew Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) Wardlaw has a f**king cheek. Plucked from obscurity and ultimately given the chance to play in the top league. I wonder if he reckons he should have been kept on and would have been part of the cup winning team Edited March 9, 2017 by Drew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Drew said: Wardlaw has a f**king cheek. Plucked from obscurity and ultimately given the chance to play in the top league. I wonder if he reckons he should have been kept on and would have been part of the cup winning team From memory him and Potter claim they were both told they'd be staying then didn't get offered contracts. On that basis he's probably justified being a bit annoyed when the manager responsible moans about being stabbed in the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Stu said: From memory him and Potter claim they were both told they'd be staying then didn't get offered contracts. On that basis he's probably justified being a bit annoyed when the manager responsible moans about being stabbed in the back. I'm afraid that's how it seems to work in fitba. Bit of a bummer, but mediocre journeymen should never take anything for granted. Edited March 9, 2017 by Drew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalrybud Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 That mediocre journeyman came back from a six month injury to score the goal that kept us up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Stu said: From memory him and Potter claim they were both told they'd be staying then didn't get offered contracts. On that basis he's probably justified being a bit annoyed when the manager responsible moans about being stabbed in the back. Like I said on the other thread the story regards to Potter, at least, was that he'd been offered a new deal during the January transfer window but had stalled till relegation was avoided,- maybe three months, by which time IIRC he was no longer an automatic starter - if that's indeed the case then I don't feel that sorry for him. I'm not sure about Wardlaw but giving up a job as a postman to play f/t football after turning 30 would have been a big decision and obviously he feels he was due more from Lennon but being a manager has its own risks - if you dish out contracts based on sentiment then you're liable to lose your own. I suppose we tend to forget it's peoples livelihoods we're talking about and in these circumstances people tend to nurse their grievances. As for Lennon and whether Craig/Teale/Goodwin were guilty of backstabbing It all depends on the circumstances, walking into a "dead man's shoes" is a common way to get promoted. I guess it's whether or not you've agitated to get the job behind your colleagues back which is Lennon's accusation regarding Craig. Edited March 9, 2017 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender rodriguez Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Dont understand that twitter patter can anyone tell me what "chat shit get skittle bombed" means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 hour ago, TediousTom said: I listened to the interview via the BBC website on the podcast player. One must say what a bloody good interview that was, not only that but the further discussion and analysis from the Thommhawk, The Chic Youngster and Mr G Teale was also agreeable. The appointment of young Thomas Craig was indeed a disaster and it was somewhat refreshing to hear such an honest interview. Thank you again Daniel Lennon and as ever I wish you all the best in your future career you decent man you. Says the forum member who usually called him "Wee clueless" and called for Daniel Lennon's head before and after the League Cup win. Does your surname begin with a C at all TT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bender rodriguez said: Dont understand that twitter patter can anyone tell me what "chat shit get skittle bombed" means? skittlebomb is Wardlaws Twatter name. Presumably DVZ is claiming Danny was talking shite on the radio and that Wardlaw has now apparently "skittlebombed him" in response. WGAS TBH. I don't remember any of us crying over these players leaving. Danny might have changed his mind about offering them a new contracts but there is absolutely no doubt that he was correct. We went on to win a national Cup for the first time since microshorts for footballers were fashionable so quite honestly all these ex-players can go f**k themselves. Edited March 9, 2017 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, bender rodriguez said: Dont understand that twitter patter can anyone tell me what "chat shit get skittle bombed" means? Skittle bomb is Gareth Wardlaw's twitter name. I'm guessing DVZ is claiming that if DL talks rubbish then he invites a ripposte from Gareth Wardlaw (and Lee Mair and Jon McShane). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 30 minutes ago, Dalrybud said: That mediocre journeyman came back from a six month injury to score the goal that kept us up. Would you have given him a new contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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