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Sorry if this is already posted somewhere, I couldn't see it. Thoughts on contracts for next season? I know it will be dependent on us staying up what we'll do.  I'm a lot more confident we'll stay up now so I feel it's time to discuss.  My thoughts as below.  Also if anyone has any comments on U20s and who should be signed released feel free to post.  I haven't seen enough of them. I'm pretty sure I have most of the contract terms correct.

1.       Jamie Langfield – Contract up (Out)

2.       Stelios Demetriou – Contract up (Extend)

3.       Gary Irvine – Contract up (Extend)

4.       Andy Webster – Contract up (Out)

5.       Ben Gordon – Contract up (Undecided/ Likely Out)

6.       Gary Mackenzie – Contract up (Extend)

7.       David Clarkson – Contract up (Out)

8.       Rocco Quinn – Contract up (Undecided/ Likely Out)

9.       John Sutton – 2018

10.   Stephen Mallan – 2018

11.   Cammy Smith – Loan (Try get back/ Sign)

14.   Kyle Hutton – 2018 (Try get out)

15.   Jack Baird – Contract Up (Out)

16.   Rory Loy – Loan (Try get back/ Sign)

17.   Lewis Morgan – 2018

18.   Lewis McLear – 2018

19.   Jordan Stewart – Contract up (Undecided/ Likely Out)

20.   Craig Storie – Loan (Out)

21.   Billy O’Brien – Loan (Sign)

22.   Stephen McGinn – 2018

23.   Pal Fjelde – Contract up/ year option (Out)

24.   Harry Davis – Loan (depending on injury try get back)

25.   Josh Todd – Contract up (Out)

42.   Kyle Magennis – 2019

44.   Adam Eckersley – Contract up (extend)

Under 20s

28.   Reece Wilson GK

30.   Greig McNaughton DF

31.   Nathan Flanagan MF

32.   Dylan McKendry DF

33.   Craig Johnston FW

34.   Kalvin Orsi DF

35.   Darren Whyte MF

36.   Connor O’Keefe MF

37.   Mark Morrison DF

38.   Luke Barclay MF

39.   Andrew McDonald DF

40.   Cameron MacPherson MF

41.   Lee Fawkes MF

43.   Chris Hendry GK

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1 minute ago, bazil85 said:

Sorry if this is already posted somewhere, I couldn't see it. Thoughts on contracts for next season? I know it will be dependent on us staying up what we'll do.  I'm a lot more confident we'll stay up now so I feel it's time to discuss.  My thoughts as below.  Also if anyone has any comments on U20s and who should be signed released feel free to post.  I haven't seen enough of them. I'm pretty sure I have most of the contract terms correct.

1.       Jamie Langfield – Contract up (Out)                            Agree

2.       Stelios Demetriou – Contract up (Extend)                   Agree

3.       Gary Irvine – Contract up (Extend)                               Agree ( although i wouldnt have said that two months ago !!)

4.       Andy Webster – Contract up (Out)                                Agree

5.       Ben Gordon – Contract up (Undecided/ Likely Out)    Keep

6.       Gary Mackenzie – Contract up (Extend)                      Keep ( however i think he will have offers elsewhere)

7.       David Clarkson – Contract up (Out)                               Agree

8.       Rocco Quinn – Contract up (Undecided/ Likely Out)    Agree

9.       John Sutton – 2018                                                

10.   Stephen Mallan – 2018

11.   Cammy Smith – Loan (Try get back/ Sign)                       Agree

14.   Kyle Hutton – 2018 (Try get out)                                        Agree

15.   Jack Baird – Contract Up (Out)                                          Dont agree. 

16.   Rory Loy – Loan (Try get back/ Sign)                               Rather spend the cash elsewhere

17.   Lewis Morgan – 2018                         

18.   Lewis McLear – 2018

19.   Jordan Stewart – Contract up (Undecided/ Likely Out)     Havent seen enough of him to comment

20.   Craig Storie – Loan (Out)                                                      Dont think he`ll be back anyway

21.   Billy O’Brien – Loan (Sign)                                                    Agree

22.   Stephen McGinn – 2018

23.   Pal Fjelde – Contract up/ year option (Out)                       Dont agree, good utility /squad player

24.   Harry Davis – Loan (depending on injury try get back)    Love to have him back

25.   Josh Todd – Contract up (Out)                                            Dont agree at all, in the Fjelde bracket , hasnt let himself down when given a chance.

42.   Kyle Magennis – 2019

44.   Adam Eckersley – Contract up (extend)                           100% Agree, but unfortunately i can see him heading back down south for more money

Under 20s

28.   Reece Wilson GK

30.   Greig McNaughton DF

31.   Nathan Flanagan MF

32.   Dylan McKendry DF

33.   Craig Johnston FW

34.   Kalvin Orsi DF

35.   Darren Whyte MF

36.   Connor O’Keefe MF

37.   Mark Morrison DF

38.   Luke Barclay MF

39.   Andrew McDonald DF

40.   Cameron MacPherson MF

41.   Lee Fawkes MF

43.   Chris Hendry GK

 

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Nothing can be decided ATM which is probably why you've not seen it anywhere. We don't know which division we'll be playing in so it's unlikely any of the players you've marked "keepsy" would contemplate extending their stay. Also you're quick to judge some of the lesser used players and Discounting Jack Baird I believe is a bad move.

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14 minutes ago, stlucifer said:

Nothing can be decided ATM which is probably why you've not seen it anywhere. We don't know which division we'll be playing in so it's unlikely any of the players you've marked "keepsy" would contemplate extending their stay. Also you're quick to judge some of the lesser used players and Discounting Jack Baird I believe is a bad move.

This isn't going to decide who stays and who goes.  It's just a bit of chat and fun to see everyone's thoughts... But I assume you knew that lol

Better options for the money than Jack, he's made massive costly mistakes early in the season and I wouldn't be risking him in such an important role as center back but each to their own. 

As for Todd and Fjelde, I don't think Todd is good enough to push us onto a title challenging team and Fjelde has hardly kicked a ball.  Think we need to look at players that will improve and challenge the settled team. Fair enough we might lose a few but I think we could get better than them to replace. 

Ben Gordon and Rocco Quinn, I guess time will tell but after such bad injuries I don't think it's possible to make a decision right now. 

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20 minutes ago, shull said:

Just trust Jack & James to judge. 

Could you not say this about almost every thread? It's just to see fan opinion and maybe get a bit of debate going...

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4 minutes ago, windae cleaner said:

On Jack Baird

Many people on here thought Sean Kelly was a dud

Easily holding his own down in England

Baird is very young playing in an important position in any team i would keep him

If Jack Baird was to get a new contract for next season I would like to see him continue his development in the Under 20s (reserves) or being loaned out.

Fair enough he is still young but I for one would hate to see the club throw him in like Alex Rae did, some of the goals we leaked at the start of the season were nothing to do with a players age.  I think he has a long way to go before proving his ability at this level and do we really want him as a starting center back next season? I know it's a bit of a hot topic but in my opinion he hasn't done enough for a new deal. 

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29 minutes ago, bazil85 said:

Could you not say this about almost every thread? It's just to see fan opinion and maybe get a bit of debate going...

Not in the Latest Scores Thread, Juniors Thread, Last Word Thread, The Dafty Thread and hunners more. 

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2 minutes ago, shull said:

Not in the Latest Scores Thread, Juniors Thread, Last Word Thread, The Dafty Thread and hunners more. 

I stand corrected, fans shouldn't be able to talk about who they'd like to see at the club next season. :P

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Rocco Quinn is under contract next season.  Another of AR's Einstein moves given the player's previous injury history.  Decent player to have around if can stay fit?  Jack Baird is an almost definite re-sign as we need four CBs and he can keep improving at his age.

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We have a squad, and I include players who are not getting in the team at present, that are buzzing with the recent performances.

I'm sure they are not at the training ground talking about contracts for next season.

Players both in, and not in, the team at present are all playing their part.

For me this is close season talk. 

 

 

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I'd be trying to tie Morgan and Mallan down to longer term deals as a priority, though we will probably not be in a position till safety to do so. Both players will move on to bigger teams I have no doubt, though to safeguard a decent return on two of our best assets is a must.

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On Jack Baird
Many people on here thought Sean Kelly was a dud
Easily holding his own down in England
Baird is very young playing in an important position in any team i would keep him

There's no way I'd be letting Baird go. Big potential there. I'd be looking to tie him down to a 2 or 3 year deal. Only getting better.

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Would you do that and change a winning team?

Never said I wanted to see them this minute. Just that not seen enough of them and think they could contribute. It's pleasing that we're playing so well they can't get a shot, in a way.

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Just now, Soctty said:


Never said I wanted to see them this minute. Just that not seen enough of them and think they could contribute. It's pleasing that we're playing so well they can't get a shot, in a way.

We are very unlikely to be secure enough to make those changes before the end of the season though. It would need to be due to more injuries or loss of form which are both frightening prospects.

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We are very unlikely to be secure enough to make those changes before the end of the season though. It would need to be due to more injuries or loss of form which are both frightening prospects.

Or substitute appearances, such as Todd's at the weekend, where he got himself an assist. Still lots of football to be played.

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4 minutes ago, Dave The Buddie said:

Nothing will be done and no contracts will be offered until we know for certain what league we will be playing in next season. That is the way we have always operated.

The OP makes that very clear in his post. No harm in discussing our "wish list" though.

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Anyone got any thoughts on prospects in the U20s? I went to a couple games start of season and liked the look of Flanagan, who seems to be doing well at Annan now as well. O'Keefe looked good as well and heard good reports on Orsi and Fawkes.

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Sorry if this is already posted somewhere, I couldn't see it. Thoughts on contracts for next season? I know it will be dependent on us staying up what we'll do.  I'm a lot more confident we'll stay up now so I feel it's time to discuss.  My thoughts as below.  Also if anyone has any comments on U20s and who should be signed released feel free to post.  I haven't seen enough of them. I'm pretty sure I have most of the contract terms correct.
1.       Jamie Langfield – Contract up (Out)
2.       Stelios Demetriou – Contract up (Extend)
3.       Gary Irvine – Contract up (Extend)
4.       Andy Webster – Contract up (Out)
5.       Ben Gordon – Contract up (Undecided/ Likely Out)
6.       Gary Mackenzie – Contract up (Extend)
7.       David Clarkson – Contract up (Out)
8.       Rocco Quinn – Contract up (Undecided/ Likely Out)
9.       John Sutton – 2018
10.   Stephen Mallan – 2018
11.   Cammy Smith – Loan (Try get back/ Sign)
14.   Kyle Hutton – 2018 (Try get out)
15.   Jack Baird – Contract Up (Out)
16.   Rory Loy – Loan (Try get back/ Sign)
17.   Lewis Morgan – 2018
18.   Lewis McLear – 2018
19.   Jordan Stewart – Contract up (Undecided/ Likely Out)
20.   Craig Storie – Loan (Out)
21.   Billy O’Brien – Loan (Sign)
22.   Stephen McGinn – 2018
23.   Pal Fjelde – Contract up/ year option (Out)
24.   Harry Davis – Loan (depending on injury try get back)
25.   Josh Todd – Contract up (Out)
42.   Kyle Magennis – 2019
44.   Adam Eckersley – Contract up (extend)
Under 20s
28.   Reece Wilson GK
30.   Greig McNaughton DF
31.   Nathan Flanagan MF
32.   Dylan McKendry DF
33.   Craig Johnston FW
34.   Kalvin Orsi DF
35.   Darren Whyte MF
36.   Connor O’Keefe MF
37.   Mark Morrison DF
38.   Luke Barclay MF
39.   Andrew McDonald DF
40.   Cameron MacPherson MF
41.   Lee Fawkes MF
43.   Chris Hendry GK

I'd keep Jack Baird.

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