antrin Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 15 minutes ago, shull said: The best post that I have read on here, all day. Some buddies should realise, less is more. Ooooh! The f**kin irony! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 16 hours ago, elvis said: Anything better than this season will do me think its pushing it a bit thinking we will win the league We don't even know whos going or coming if we lose Mallan and Morgan that's a massive part of this team and will be very difficult to replace But I have every faith in Jack Ross so looking forward to see what transpires over the coming months . Would agree with this I thought we had bottomed out last year when Alex Rae lead a hopeless side to 6th. I was wrong, we managed to finish with even less points and in a lower position this year. The year on year decline has to end somewhere, and next year is surely the time it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, TopCat said: Would agree with this I thought we had bottomed out last year when Alex Rae lead a hopeless side to 6th. I was wrong, we managed to finish with even less points and in a lower position this year. The year on year decline has to end somewhere, and next year is surely the time it does. Can I ask a question? How many points did Rae get this season with his choice of players. When Ross made his mark on the team we have been flying. Win the league maybe aye, maybe naw what I'm sure of is we will make the play offs. Are you ready to admit you got Jack Ross wrong. Not going to give you stick just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said: Can I ask a question? How many points did Rae get this season with his choice of players. When Ross made his mark on the team we have been flying. Win the league maybe aye, maybe naw what I'm sure of is we will make the play offs. Are you ready to admit you got Jack Ross wrong. Not going to give you stick just curious. 3 from 6 games. Rae was a hopeless manager who deserved sacking. Still though, he lead us to 6th last year with what was (in my view) a weaker side than we had this season. Got wrong in what sense? I said before the manager was appointed that if he kept us up he should get next season. I said that during JR's tenure aswell. Edited May 8, 2017 by TopCat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 Just now, TopCat said: 3 Got me there mate have no idea what you mean ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Callum Gilhooley Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 2 hours ago, TopCat said: 3 from 6 games. Rae was a hopeless manager who deserved sacking. Still though, he lead us to 6th last year with what was (in my view) a weaker side than we had this season. Got wrong in what sense? I said before the manager was appointed that if he kept us up he should get next season. I said that during JR's tenure aswell. So you said if he kept us up he should stay but you also said that he should be sacked nothing like covering your bases eh ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 We will win the league next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeBud Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 3 hours ago, TopCat said: 3 from 6 games. Rae was a hopeless manager who deserved sacking. Still though, he lead us to 6th last year with what was (in my view) a weaker side than we had this season. Got wrong in what sense? I said before the manager was appointed that if he kept us up he should get next season. I said that during JR's tenure aswell. Thank God we're not relying on "your view" then and JR changed it all when he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 27 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said: Next season will never come as time has obviously stopped - I can hear no more ticking or tocking. And all because Gus never got the job . Thank Christ ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 16 hours ago, Callum Gilhooley said: So you said if he kept us up he should stay but you also said that he should be sacked nothing like covering your bases eh ? I said he should be sacked in December after we got humped at home by QOTS. And had we done then and got an experienced manager in i think we would have been safe long before the last day of the season. Alas we didn't and we had to endure some major squeaky bum time going right up to the last kick of the ball on the final day. But we stayed up and that's that so he should get the summer and the start of next season. Just like Rae did last year after keeping us up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, TopCat said: I said he should be sacked in December after we got humped at home by QOTS. And had we done then and got an experienced manager in i think we would have been safe long before the last day of the season. Alas we didn't and we had to endure some major squeaky bum time going right up to the last kick of the ball on the final day. But we stayed up and that's that so he should get the summer and the start of next season. Just like Rae did last year after keeping us up. He should have been sacked before he signed one single player of his own ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, TopCat said: I said he should be sacked in December after we got humped at home by QOTS. And had we done then and got an experienced manager in i think we would have been safe long before the last day of the season. Alas we didn't and we had to endure some major squeaky bum time going right up to the last kick of the ball on the final day. But we stayed up and that's that so he should get the summer and the start of next season. Just like Rae did last year after keeping us up. Sorry Bud but there is no comparison between what Rae achieved and what Jack Ross and Jim Fowler have achieved. Even putting aside we are now a joy to watch as opposed to turgid under Rae, we have our Club back. The love is back. Rae couldn't have achieved that ever. In Jack and Jim we trust #thislove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, TopCat said: I said he should be sacked in December after we got humped at home by QOTS. And had we done then and got an experienced manager in i think we would have been safe long before the last day of the season. Alas we didn't and we had to endure some major squeaky bum time going right up to the last kick of the ball on the final day. But we stayed up and that's that so he should get the summer and the start of next season. Just like Rae did last year after keeping us up. So he assembles a fantastic squad with almost no budget, has us playing the best football we have seen for years, brings the entire club together from top to bottom, has us scoring a vast number of goals and on championship winning form and you ......errr.......want to give him a few games into the new season? Edited May 9, 2017 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 29 minutes ago, TopCat said: I said he should be sacked in December after we got humped at home by QOTS. And had we done then and got an experienced manager in i think we would have been safe long before the last day of the season. Alas we didn't and we had to endure some major squeaky bum time going right up to the last kick of the ball on the final day. But we stayed up and that's that so he should get the summer and the start of next season. Just like Rae did last year after keeping us up. I thought I talked some shite but you trump me hands down you sure your not Dickson in disguise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) 25 minutes ago, magnus said: Sorry Bud but there is no comparison between what Rae achieved and what Jack Ross and Jim Fowler have achieved. Even putting aside we are now a joy to watch as opposed to turgid under Rae, we have our Club back. The love is back. Rae couldn't have achieved that ever. In Jack and Jim we trust #thislove Well there is a comparison. Alex Rae took over in December with another managers underperforming team and finished 6th with 42 points and had us safe with about a month of the season to go. JR took over in October with another managers underperforming team and finished 7th with 39 points and had us safe at the final kick of the final day. I don't want this to sound like I'm defending Alex Rae, he was terrible. He should have been sacked for releasing Sean Kelly alone, but to say you can't compare them just isn't true. What team do you think was better, this years team or last years? Edited May 9, 2017 by TopCat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Just now, TopCat said: Well there is a comparison. Alex Rae took over in December with another managers underperforming team and finished 6th with 42 points and had us safe with about a month of the season to go. JR took over in October with another managers underperforming team and finished 7th with 39 points and had us safe at the final kick of the final day. I don't want this to sound like I'm defending Alex Rae, he was terrible. He should have been sacked for releasing Sean Kelly alone, but to say you can't compare them just isn't true. I am not knocking your stats but I honestly don't believe you can compare what they each have achieved. A succession of terrible managers had all but destroyed the club. It was a train wreck. It was a matter of how far can this falling knife fall . Jack Ross in a few short months has transformed us - saved us. The points tally and stats that Rae and his taxi driving chum trot out at every opportunity just don't come close to what Jack has achieved . We have a real talent at the helm now and I for one can't wait to see where the journey takes us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottd Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, TopCat said: What team do you think was better, this years team or last years? Depends what team from this season you are talking about. Is it the unbalanced mess that Rae assembled or the dynamic one that Ross put together? Sometimes football, and life in general, is so much more than statistics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 1 minute ago, scottd said: Depends what team from this season you are talking about. Is it the unbalanced mess that Rae assembled or the dynamic one that Ross put together? Sometimes football, and life in general, is so much more than statistics. Well the team from the start of this season was very similar to the end of last season. 10 of our starting 11 on the first day of this season were the part of the squad that finished 6th last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, scottd said: Depends what team from this season you are talking about. Is it the unbalanced mess that Rae assembled or the dynamic one that Ross put together? Sometimes football, and life in general, is so much more than statistics. Jack Ross and the team have done a brilliant job all of us agree, well most of us. The big thing for me is the style they did it in the best football we have played in many many years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintGlenburn Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 On 2017-5-6 at 4:40 PM, shull said: First in the Championship. And wearing the famous black and white traditional stripes. Easy I think Dundee Utd will lose in the playoff final against maybe Motherwell or Hamilton. Raith i think will end up getting the better of who they face in the Playoff so my prediction is as follows Prediction Falkirk St Mirren Dundee Utd Inverness Caley Dunfermline Morton Raith Rovers Livingston QOS Dumbarton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porks Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Well there is a comparison. Alex Rae took over in December with another managers underperforming team and finished 6th with 42 points and had us safe with about a month of the season to go. JR took over in October with another managers underperforming team and finished 7th with 39 points and had us safe at the final kick of the final day. I don't want this to sound like I'm defending Alex Rae, he was terrible. He should have been sacked for releasing Sean Kelly alone, but to say you can't compare them just isn't true. What team do you think was better, this years team or last years? Topcat. Do yourself a favour and admit you got it wrong. Noone gets it right all the time, there is no shame in it. Alex Rae never reached anywhere near the form we have had since January, statistically or otherwise and everyone knows this. Enjoy the turnaround and one of the most exciting teams we've seen for a long time.And stop hiding behind stats. I could write a program to calculate opinions based purely on stats. It takes human beings, and in this case fans, to be able to look beneath stats, understand the mitigating factors, and come out with a far more educated and useful perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 3 hours ago, TopCat said: Well the team from the start of this season was very similar to the end of last season. 10 of our starting 11 on the first day of this season were the part of the squad that finished 6th last year. Those 10 fell to just 5 players in his final match being players we had last season, as he changed the lineup in every single game in charge as he begun to bring in the players he signed last summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Soctty Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, shull said: Zzzzzzzz Posting in your sleep? Coincidentally it's probably your best ever post... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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