Bellside Bud Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, cockles1987 said: I've just read a couple of articles, one that the Trussell Trust provided food parcel's for over one million persons in one year and the second article it claimed that the Trussell Trust provides for less than 50% of all the food banks in the UK. Can easily see why folk are saying millions if you're bright enough with figures. Let's see Bellend refute those numbers. You clearly aren't very good at reading. The Trussell Trust says it provided 1.2m FOOD PARCELS in a year. It certainly doesn't claim to have served 1m persons Edited September 5, 2017 by Bellside Bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellside Bud Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 3 hours ago, salmonbuddie said: Shit stirrer, f**k right off. "Shit stirrer"? Oh I see what you mean. Your posts are shit and I've put you into a spin just like I said I would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 26 minutes ago, oaksoft said: If WHAT doesnt fit my belief? You havent given me anything to try and fit to. The Trussell Trusts findings. You simply ignore them, casting them aside because You don't like the indications. There were 13.5 million people living in low-income households, 21% of the UK population. This proportion has barely changed since 2002/03. The number of private renters in poverty has doubled over the last decade. There are now as many private renters in poverty as social renters. Rent accounts for at least a third of income for more than 70% of private renters in poverty. The number of households accepted as homeless and the number of households in temporary accommodation have both increased for five years in a row. Evictions by landlords are near a ten‑year high. The number of people in poverty in a working family is 55% – a record high. Four-fifths of the adults in these families are themselves working, some 3.8 million workers. Those adults that are not working are predominantly looking after children. 1.4 million children are in long-term workless households. Excluding lone parent families with a child under five, 55% of these children have a disabled adult in their household. Once account is taken of the higher costs faced by those who are disabled, half of people living in poverty are either themselves disabled or are living with a disabled person in their household. Poverty There were 13.5 million people in poverty in the UK, 21% of the population. This is not a large change from a decade earlier; in 2004/05 there were 12 million people in poverty, 21% of the population. Table 1: People in poverty (millions) measured after housing costs 2004 / 05* 2014 / 15* Children 3.7 3.7 16-24 1.4 1.6 25-44 3.1 3.5 45-64 2.4 3 65+ 1.9 1.5 In working families 5.4 7.4 In workless or retired families 6.7 6.1 Social renting 4.7 4.6 Private renting 2.2 4.5 Owner-occupied 5.1 4.5 *The data for poverty by age is a three-year average There are 2 million more people in working families in poverty, now up to 7.4 million, than a decade earlier. Of those people in poverty, 45% are not in a working family. This 45% is made up of pensioners (12%); families with disabled members (17%); lone parent families (6%); and 11% in other circumstances, such as workless single adults. People in poverty face reduced and falling financial resilience. For example, 69% of the poorest fifth have no savings whatsoever, an increase from 58% in 2005/06. One aspect of poverty that can be understated in the official statistics is disability. When the extra costs of disability are partially accounted for, half of all people in poverty are either disabled, or in a household with a disabled person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellside Bud Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, cockles1987 said: If people aren't persons what are they? #thichasfcuk You actually think that everyone who visits a food bank only does so once? I pity you. Edited September 5, 2017 by Bellside Bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 This thread Can't we have Shull and Antrim fighting again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellside Bud Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 hour ago, cockles1987 said: You do know that you've replied to a post that provides figures that prove that you can't read? See I can answer a question with a question, just that I'm good at it and can understand facts and figures where as you.......... #thichasfcuk Go on then. Tell me where your quote says that millions of UK residents are using food banks. After all that's the statement you were defending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 No it doesn't, it deserves no response at all. That's exactly what he's getting from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted September 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 What a horrible blackandwhitearmy welcome to our new poster and fellow Buddie, Bellsdale Bud. Some should hang their heads in with the way they have treated our polite and articulate contributor. Sin Bin is too lenient for the perpetrators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 2 hours ago, shull said: What a horrible blackandwhitearmy welcome to my latest alias, Bellsdale Bud. Some should hang their heads in with the way they have treated our polite and articulate contributor. Sin Bin is too lenient for the perpetrators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted September 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 21 minutes ago, insaintee said: I don't even know where Bellsdale is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 He's right to use the term "lefty" in a negative context though. There hasn't been a single example anywhere where Communism or Socialism has led to an equal enriched society. It's one of those political principles that sounds lovely on paper, and which sounds feasible so long as you can stop people from behaving like humans. Without exception every country that has gone down an extreme left wing route has landed up with a violent race to the bottom, where only the most corrupt end up with power and where every social freedom we enjoy is denied by a paranoid state. So what model has led to an equally enriched society? Certainly not capitalism, however we are currently enjoying the race to the bottom and paranoid state here in the UK.I guess the official site are now fed up with the bellsider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 I don't even know where Bellsdale is You're a taxi driver...I'm sure you can find a long route to get there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 Welcome to the forum Bellside Bud. A fresh new shite alias. Ah, I love the smell of shite new aliases in the morning. That gasoline smell, smells like victory.... or teen spirit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Nipper Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 I don't even know where Bellsdale is Next to the hill [emoji57] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 9 hours ago, shull said: I don't even know where Bellsdale is That's not what you said when that boy asked you take him there on your taxi, You told him you knew a short cut via Dunoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted September 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 STFUYNNNF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 1 minute ago, shull said: STFUYNNNF Shocking abuse of fellow Saints fan. PS Naw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted September 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 31 minutes ago, insaintee said: Shocking abuse of fellow Saints fan. PS Naw STFUYNNNFCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, shull said: STFUYNNNFCB naw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted September 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 Awright ye spangle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 Jacob Rees-Mogg. Now there's an odious c**t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 9 minutes ago, Drew said: Jacob Rees-Mogg. Now there's an odious c**t. Nah, just another one of Shull's aliases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellside Bud Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 14 hours ago, TPAFKATS said: So what model has led to an equally enriched society? Certainly not capitalism, however we are currently enjoying the race to the bottom and paranoid state here in the UK. I guess the official site are now fed up with the bellsider A race to the bottom in the UK? Really? The UK has the 5th richest economy in the world. Here we have a generous welfare state and we enjoy heath care that is free at the point of use. We've got one of the lowest rates of unemployment in the world currently and our poverty line is drawn at £393 per week per household. For many of those living below the poverty line in the UK there is welfare assistance - many receive assistance with their housing costs or will have their income topped up - and there will be an entitlement to free childcare whether those parents work or not. Indeed the UK is one of the few countries anywhere in the world where we still class a family with several TV's, a number of laptops, mobile phones, tablets, games consoles etc, as well as money to burn on their gambling, tobacco and alcohol addictions as being in poverty. We've even got poverty riddled folk living here who can afford two, three and even four foreign holidays a year despite living exclusively off benefits. Oh how those living in Communist Vietnam must laugh at our unequal society. There an average worker earns around £111 per month. Over 14 million people have to get by on less than $1.25 per day. And more than half of their population is regarded as poor. Those are official figures by the way, which begs the question why in an equal society the other half aren't regarded as poor but we'll ignore that. Of course Vietnam isn't punished for being different. They are the second biggest recipients of world aid. Guess where that money comes from? Yep, Capitalist countries like the US, UK, Germany, Japan and Sweden. Funnily enough China and Russia aren't quite so bothered. Of course China and Russia are also relevant examples to look at when discussing the success of capitalism. Both had huge swathes of their population starving - for real - before they embraced capitalism. Now their countries and their populations are being greatly enriched. It might not be equal, it never was anyway, but I doubt anyone in those countries will care when their own standard of living has greatly improved. It's clear to me that Capitalism has enriched the world. It's a system that brings wealth and whilst it might not deliver equality is that really important? It's quite clearly driven up standards and improved the lives of everyone living in the UK. Personally I'd stick with what has been absolutely proven to be successful, but then I'm not riddled with jealousy that someone else might be earning a bit more than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellside Bud Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 6 hours ago, Drew said: Jacob Rees-Mogg. Now there's an odious c**t. Why? Surely you haven't come to that conclusion because he believes unborn babies shouldn't be killed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Why? Surely you haven't come to that conclusion because he believes unborn babies shouldn't be killed? No, it's because he's an odious c**t. ETA - Rees-Mogg is an odious c**t, I don't know Drew but he seems a decent sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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