oaksoft Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 3 hours ago, barrhead saint said: I find it hilarious too, that some think this is a great idea, All about opinions. I agree. I have no problem with your bigotted attitudes as long as you have no problem being pulled up on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) For anyone who is interested in the history of women's football, they should give this program a watch. Very interesting and informative. http://www.channel4.com/programmes/when-football-banned-women Edited November 22, 2017 by munoz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MenstrieSaint Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 The idea of signing players from other teams and create a female football team to compete in a league won't increase St Mirren fanbase . That said to set up a street sport type project promoting opportunities for females to play football on a regular basis would be a great idea . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrhead saint Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 23 minutes ago, oaksoft said: I agree. I have no problem with your bigotted attitudes as long as you have no problem being pulled up on them. I wouldn't say thinking woman's football is pish, means you are a bigot. I'm happy to be corrected though, by the expert who thinks it will catch up with the men's game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeBud Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, munoz said: For anyone who is interested in the history of women's football, they should give this program a watch. Very interesting and informative. http://www.channel4.com/programmes/when-football-banned-women There was a brilliant book covering the first 100 years of the "Football League", it covered this situation in quite a lot of detail and was an interesting read. There were many crowds for women's football that were larger than the equivalent fixture for a men's game. Edited November 22, 2017 by WeeBud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 50 minutes ago, barrhead saint said: I wouldn't say thinking woman's football is pish, means you are a bigot. No, it means you're a misogynist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guinness Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Ladies football may take over. Once tackles and heading are banned they might have a chance. Still need to improve their goalies though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whydowebother Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Ladies football may take over. Once tackles and heading are banned they might have a chance. Still need to improve their goalies though. Naw, they’ve got the goalkeeping well covered.It’s well documented that women let everything in but the balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, barrhead saint said: I wouldn't say thinking woman's football is pish, means you are a bigot. I'm happy to be corrected though, by the expert who thinks it will catch up with the men's game. Don’t bother mate. I said I’d let him get his little hardon by giving him the last word so I’ve no intention of countering his ridiculous notion that thinking the standard is pish represents a bigoted view. i will admit though to being really tempted to respond saying “Bigotted? You couldn’t even spell bigoted” but I resisted. Not sure if Beyond our Ken was being facetious when he said it was mysoginistic but that of course would be an equally ridiculous notion, so I’ll assume he was. Edited November 22, 2017 by TPAFKA Jersey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, oaksoft said: I don't know if you are joking or not but actually there is absolutely no physical reason why women cannot play alongside men in the same team. If a woman is good enough she should be able to be called into the main squad. Showing, again, you have no idea about football or sport. Give's us a list of competitive sports that women can currently compete with men? Run along, you must have a problem to solve. Edited November 22, 2017 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 51 minutes ago, guinness said: Ladies football may take over. Once tackles and heading are banned they might have a chance. Still need to improve their goalies though. Oh, don't start me on women goalies. They should only be mentioned in the "funny as feck" thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 5 hours ago, oaksoft said: There isn't a sport in the world which has not improved considerably over time as technology and knowledge improves. What's the relevance in this to football? Are you suggesting women get bigger or better football boots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kombibuddie Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) Womans football is high on the FA's Grow the Game agenda and with more and more girls/women playing the game, St Mirren should explore developing teams at all age groups, not just 1 adult ladies team. As that will take time, they should start looking at the foundations for all age groups from U7's through to ladies teams. Given, at present, girls teams are made over 2 school years (boys are over 1 school year but younger players can play up a year), there is plenty scope to start laying the blocks to get a number of teams in place for the start of next season. I'd more than be happy to support SMISA's 3 monthly spend being invested in growing the game/club with some funding to start girls/womens football teams. An exciting development for the club. Edited November 22, 2017 by Graeme Aitken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, cockles1987 said: Eventing. Equestrian. Show Jumping. Dressage. Horse Racing. Neigh bother to find some. You really don't understand the difference of sports that requires a physical presence, although, maybe for the simple minded, I should have made this clearer. Your fascination with horses is a serious concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undertaker Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 All male horses though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 Just a taste of things to come! looking forward to the meltdowns if Smisa include a request to fund SMFC ladies from the £2 pot. Surely all the members who vote any spend on the club (no matter how ridiculous) through, will back the lassies..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldyOzBud Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: Just a taste of things to come! looking forward to the meltdowns if Smisa include a request to fund SMFC ladies from the £2 pot. Surely all the members who vote any spend on the club (no matter how ridiculous) through, will back the lassies..? Trolling of the highest order, kudos to you, what an utterly ridiculous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintGlenburn Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 I see on the official site that it is now well erm..official. Good news, our club is brilliant it really is, brilliant it really is indeed. PS Will the first team and the burds team share a Christmas night out? I see scandal ahead I thought most wummin footballers looked like a mix of mark yardley and peter beardsley until i watched a norway game a while back. Great news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 I have no problems with the club supporting Womens football, neither do i have an issue if Smisa offer it up as a funding option. Having watched a fair old bit of the last Womens world cup due to a former workmate being a Footy player herself and persuading me to watch , my opinion & it is no more than that , is that the standard is woeful. If that was the worlds best on show, what is the rest of it like ? I am not being sexist or misogynistic..... just proferring my opinion on the standard football on show. Does it need to be promoted and funded correctly ? Yes. Is it anywhere near even junior football level ? Not in my opinion. Would i pay money to watch it ? No way. From watching the world cup, my opinion was that there are a handful of very talented individuals but the massive majority were several levels below spfl league two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madball Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Callum Gilhooley said: I have no problems with the club supporting Womens football, neither do i have an issue if Smisa offer it up as a funding option. Having watched a fair old bit of the last Womens world cup due to a former workmate being a Footy player herself and persuading me to watch , my opinion & it is no more than that , is that the standard is woeful. If that was the worlds best on show, what is the rest of it like ? I am not being sexist or misogynistic..... just proferring my opinion on the standard football on show. Does it need to be promoted and funded correctly ? Yes. Is it anywhere near even junior football level ? Not in my opinion. Would i pay money to watch it ? No way. From watching the world cup, my opinion was that there are a handful of very talented individuals but the massive majority were several levels below spfl league two. One of the problems I had around women's football is that I compared it to the men's game. However it was the same problem as trying to compare today's football with football from the 70s/80s, the level of skill aggression and tactics are vastly different. The women's game is not an inferior product, but rather is a different product, and when that is accepted then it becomes viewed differently. For me the other problem I still have is around being invested and caring about the success or failure of a team. There was no team that I remotely cared about so I was dismissive of the product. The change on that was the women's national side playing in the Euro's as it ticked boxes around having a team to follow, when I cared about the result. As a St Mirren fan I follow us playing tiddlywinks, not saying I would watch, but would be interested in what is happening in a ladies side, particularly as I've got a 9yr old daughter who has expressed interest in playing football and it would be good to have our own local role models for her to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 28 minutes ago, madball said: One of the problems I had around women's football is that I compared it to the men's game. However it was the same problem as trying to compare today's football with football from the 70s/80s, the level of skill aggression and tactics are vastly different. The women's game is not an inferior product, but rather is a different product, and when that is accepted then it becomes viewed differently. For me the other problem I still have is around being invested and caring about the success or failure of a team. There was no team that I remotely cared about so I was dismissive of the product. The change on that was the women's national side playing in the Euro's as it ticked boxes around having a team to follow, when I cared about the result. As a St Mirren fan I follow us playing tiddlywinks, not saying I would watch, but would be interested in what is happening in a ladies side, particularly as I've got a 9yr old daughter who has expressed interest in playing football and it would be good to have our own local role models for her to follow. All fair points . Perhaps I would feel different if I had a team to support or relative who played. As I said at the start of my post , I only watched in the first place because of encouragement from a colleague. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 10 hours ago, Callum Gilhooley said: I have no problems with the club supporting Womens football, neither do i have an issue if Smisa offer it up as a funding option. Having watched a fair old bit of the last Womens world cup due to a former workmate being a Footy player herself and persuading me to watch , my opinion & it is no more than that , is that the standard is woeful. If that was the worlds best on show, what is the rest of it like ? I am not being sexist or misogynistic..... just proferring my opinion on the standard football on show. Does it need to be promoted and funded correctly ? Yes. Is it anywhere near even junior football level ? Not in my opinion. Would i pay money to watch it ? No way. From watching the world cup, my opinion was that there are a handful of very talented individuals but the massive majority were several levels below spfl league two. Bang on Callum. Ah reasonably efficient Paisley pub team would gub the women’s world champions, provided they could kick the ball into the top half of the goal. And it’s not just the physical difference. Look at other sports where men and women don’t compete against each other. Tennis, athletics, cycling, skiing, rowing etc etc. In all of these the ONLY thing that prevents women competing with mean is the physical strength difference, yet in none of these cases would the women’s game be regarded as shite. Womens football is shite because it’s shite. Not because it isn’t as good as men’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Tonight BBC2 Kick Off 7.05 Women's World Cup Qualifier England v Bosnia & Herzegovina Give it a try, buddies. Don't compare it to the Men's World Cup or even the SPFL. Maybe compare it to Ladies Club Football in Scotland at the moment. Anyway, the Women's game is growing rapidly and so will the standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Bang on Callum. Ah reasonably efficient Paisley pub team would gub the women’s world champions, provided they could kick the ball into the top half of the goal. And it’s not just the physical difference. Look at other sports where men and women don’t compete against each other. Tennis, athletics, cycling, skiing, rowing etc etc. In all of these the ONLY thing that prevents women competing with mean is the physical strength difference, yet in none of these cases would the women’s game be regarded as shite. Womens football is shite because it’s shite. Not because it isn’t as good as men’s. I wouldn't say it's shite just now, technique of outfield players at international level is superior to a lot of male club footballers. Goalkeeping has always been the let down, however this also used to be the case when I watched the African nations tournament. I'm sure if I was old enough I would be able to say the same about the British game back in the 40s and 50s.The women's game, particularly the goalkeeping position, will improve with additional exposure which will lead to investment including coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambiebud Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 The women's game, particularly the goalkeeping position, will improve with additional exposure which will lead to investment including coaching. Exposure?That’ll bring the crowds in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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