beyond our ken Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 16 hours ago, bazil85 said: Still not going to change my opinion, why is so important to people that I decide a CB isn't needed? 1. Eckersley - Still much better at LB you run the risk of upsetting a solid back four if one CB gets a long term injury or such. Then if we have suspensions or other injuries (or a dip in form) 2. Yes Smith usually plays just behind one out and out striker. That works for us. The Reilly position we have another option with Mullan, the Smith position is very versatile, he often changes with Morgan, Maggenis and JR shakes things up that confuse the life out of defenders and works wonderfully. We now have another two midfielders plus Flanagan to give us even more. All great, again not saying another ST is a bad idea (said so so so so many times) just we're pretty well covered. For the millionth time an argument for another striker can be made for another CB. We have had to bring on defenders this season because of red cards, injuries and to hold advantages. I just don't like the idea or relying on non CB for that role if one gets injured. What's so bad about that? 3. Did I ever say the CB would HAVE to be 4th choice? Would JR turn his nose up at someone who can challenge the starting two? Of course not, mad comment. 4. I'm genuinely pulling my hair out with your 'come the summer' comment and the rest of your post. I've said 14 billion times I'm not against a new striker I just think there's a great debate for a new CB. Your chat about strikers leaving could also be mirrored with Baird and Davis. Both could leave in summer the debate is actually up and running, you seem to be arguing for a debate and then complaining that the other parties are trying to brainwash you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 58 minutes ago, zico said: Where did I say that I was trying to change your opinion? You have given your opinion on this thread over and over and over again. I have given my opinion once. What is the point of your reply? To try and change my opinion? Or do you think that you own this thread? I disagree with everything you have said in your reply. I'm assuming that JR is looking to bring in someone who is capable of being a first choice striker or at least challenge to be first choice. A new striker can be a game changer from the bench. In my opinion, we can get a better standard of central defender on emergency loan than we can attract as permanent 4th choice - and we don't need to pay his wages until we need him. You’ve just copied points other people have said. What’s the point if not to Change my opinion. You have your opinion I have mine. You think we need to improve a strike force with more than 30 goals between them more than we need another CB option fine. You think we couldn’t attract a cb that could challenge for a start but could a striker fine But why post the same thing again if not to try to get me to agree with you? Pointless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 28 minutes ago, beyond our ken said: the debate is actually up and running, you seem to be arguing for a debate and then complaining that the other parties are trying to brainwash you Nope not at all. Just frustrating that people think my point about a new cb isn’t valid then use the same arguments I’m using for the ST position. Also frustrating that people can’t read basic English. I’ve said several times that I’m for a new striker as well, just more worried about an injury to a CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, zico said: Where did I say that I was trying to change your opinion? You have given your opinion on this thread over and over and over again. I have given my opinion once. What is the point of your reply? To try and change my opinion? Or do you think that you own this thread? I disagree with everything you have said in your reply. I'm assuming that JR is looking to bring in someone who is capable of being a first choice striker or at least challenge to be first choice. A new striker can be a game changer from the bench. In my opinion, we can get a better standard of central defender on emergency loan than we can attract as permanent 4th choice - and we don't need to pay his wages until we need him. So you disagree with bringing in a striker then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmac Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 FFS, this guff still? Four candles or fork handles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 18 minutes ago, bazil85 said: You’ve just copied points other people have said. What’s the point if not to Change my opinion. You have your opinion I have mine. You think we need to improve a strike force with more than 30 goals between them more than we need another CB option fine. You think we couldn’t attract a cb that could challenge for a start but could a striker fine But why post the same thing again if not to try to get me to agree with you? Pointless Sharing the same opinion as others isn't copying! And what is your point if not to change everyone else's opinion? You have your opinion and I have mine. You think we could do with a central defender more than a striker. What's the point in posting this over and over and over and over again if not to try and get everyone who disagrees with you to agree with you? Pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, bazil85 said: So you disagree with bringing in a striker then? where did you say that it would be better to bring in a striker than a central defender in your post I replied to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 26 minutes ago, bazil85 said: Nope not at all. Just frustrating that people think my point about a new cb isn’t valid then use the same arguments I’m using for the ST position. Also frustrating that people can’t read basic English. I’ve said several times that I’m for a new striker as well, just more worried about an injury to a CB. but, but IT'S A DEBATE. Seriously, if the idea that someone disagrees with you is frustrating-then don't get involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 21 minutes ago, zico said: where did you say that it would be better to bring in a striker than a central defender in your post I replied to? I didn't, I said I'd agree with bringing in a striker and you said you disagree with everything I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 24 minutes ago, zico said: Sharing the same opinion as others isn't copying! And what is your point if not to change everyone else's opinion? You have your opinion and I have mine. You think we could do with a central defender more than a striker. What's the point in posting this over and over and over and over again if not to try and get everyone who disagrees with you to agree with you? Pointless. Same point as people messaging back to me over and over again saying what about XY & Z. I can read and I can take the points. Doesn't mean i have to see them 15 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 We already have too many centre backs in the squad. We should try to get rid of at least one, if not two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, beyond our ken said: but, but IT'S A DEBATE. Seriously, if the idea that someone disagrees with you is frustrating-then don't get involved. It would be a lot easier not to if people didn't respond directly back to me saying the exact same thing over and over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, bazil85 said: I I said I'd agree with bringing in a striker No you didn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 Same point as people messaging back to me over and over again saying what about XY & Z. I can read and I can take the points. Doesn't mean i have to see them 15 times. And we can all read your posts and take your points. Doesn't mean we have to see them 150 times! You don't own the thread. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Not just you! [emoji14] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 34 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said: Even shull? God no!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, zico said: No you didn't No need to apologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 38 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said: Even shull? Too far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 Back on Planet Earth, Dundee United have beat us in the race to sign Thomas Mikkelsen from Ross County. A bit of a blow, not sure if we have another option in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Kemp said: Back on Planet Earth, Dundee United have beat us in the race to sign Thomas Mikkelsen from Ross County. A bit of a blow, not sure if we have another option in mind. I wasnt even aware we were in a race to sign him. Decent big player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Kemp said: Back on Planet Earth, Dundee United have beat us in the race to sign Thomas Mikkelsen from Ross County. A bit of a blow, not sure if we have another option in mind. A few of the Utd fans on P+B weren't to keen on him the other day going by what they were posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 minute ago, linwood buddie said: A few of the Utd fans on P+B weren't to keen on him the other day going by what they were posting. No great loss, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 39 minutes ago, bazil85 said: No need to apologies. My question was: "where did you say that it would be better to bring in a striker than a central defender?" To which you have given a quite stating that they aren't related... thereby proving yourself wrong! No need to apologise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 20 minutes ago, Drew said: No great loss, IMO. Indeed. Couldn't bring myself to get excited about the prospect of us signing him. Hopefully there will better options available in the next couple of weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 50 minutes ago, Kemp said: Back on Planet Earth, Dundee United have beat us in the race to sign Thomas Mikkelsen from Ross County. A bit of a blow, not sure if we have another option in mind. That' s not such a big loss after all we score more goals than any other team in the league. Wonder if Jack has another striker in mind if not no big deal as we do have options up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said: That' s not such a big loss after all we score more goals than any other team in the league. Wonder if Jack has another striker in mind if not no big deal as we do have options up front. Bring back Shanks . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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