DougJamie Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, lenziebud said: Classic stuff. Brilliant how you try to turn your criticism of the manager into a positive, and the last sentence we'll what can you say ! That he is a DICK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: but everyone to a man dodging the fact that we were potentially a goal and a point away from the playoffs in Ross's first season. I'm going to need some proof to back that up. Also, there's no 'potentially' about it: we survived on goal difference. That's all there is to it. Edited February 14, 2018 by Magic Monkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Lord Pityme said: You see right there... there it is.. a completely fabricated take on my post responding to Sonny who seemed to be insisting Ross got off to a flyer with us. Should we just all tell each other everything's great? Just like we did when appointing Murray..? Fake News - Highly Appropriate in this thread Oh and LPM, we are 14 points ahead, unbeaten in feckin ages, and won our last 5 games------------------- Everything is great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 http://www.thesackrace.com/teams/barnsley Jack Ross top of league , Jurgan Klinsmann in the relegation position at 66/1 . What a load of shecht. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: You see right there... there it is.. a completely fabricated take on my post responding to Sonny who seemed to be insisting Ross got off to a flyer with us. Should we just all tell each other everything's great? Just like we did when appointing Murray..? Eh? Where did I say that? It is pointless entering any debate with you as you make-up and twist the reality of the situation to suit your unknown anti-Jack Ross stand. Why can you not acknowledge what a fantastic job Jack done last season and learn from your past mistakes? I'm out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Sonny said: Eh? Where did I say that? It is pointless entering any debate with you as you make-up and twist the reality of the situation to suit your unknown anti-Jack Ross stand. Why can you not acknowledge what a fantastic job Jack done last season and learn from your past mistakes? I'm out. That made i laugh. i have (although some seem keen to ignore it) lauded Ross on taking us from near relegation, to table toppers, and champions elect. But just like being about the only one who knew and stated clearly Murray was a fraud before he even became manager, I dont ignore it when we are bad either. just to cheer you up heres my final words on this thread till its sorted one way or another. Edited February 14, 2018 by Lord Pityme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 So is Jack Ross allowed to speak to Barnsley without Saint Mirrens permission because it's been posted on P/B that's he's speaking to them today and Fitzpatrick says there has been no contact with them so someone's talking shite . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, elvis said: So is Jack Ross allowed to speak to Barnsley without Saint Mirrens permission because it's been posted on P/B that's he's speaking to them today and Fitzpatrick says there has been no contact with them so someone's talking shite . Welcome back.........................It's usually you on match days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted February 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, elvis said: So is Jack Ross allowed to speak to Barnsley without Saint Mirrens permission because it's been posted on P/B that's he's speaking to them today and Fitzpatrick says there has been no contact with them so someone's talking shite . He was interviewed today , along with a few others. He travelled down yesterday and stayed overnight. Tony must have been told to deny it for now , until there' developments one way or another ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 hour ago, saintargyll said: LOY "thought" he would move onto better things I'd heard from more than one source he is suffering from some personal problems and that may have an impact on how his season is going. 1 hour ago, Lord Pityme said: Whats funny is everyone agreeing with me that Hardie, Hutton, Walsh, Shankland etc didnt click with us, but refusing to anknowledge they have gone on to play either in this league or above, or indeed playing well at the top end of league one. but everyone to a man dodging the fact ( Re. sonny's post) that we were potentially a goal and a point away from the playoffs in Ross's first season. With that god awful, wading into the stands run of defeats. Whats wrong with simply acknowledging that? It actually makes the turnaround under Ross look more impressive if the fans follow the managers example of learning from his mistakes.... i love where we are now, the type of football we are playing, and the fact we will win this league and move upwards, but airbrushing out the things that almost cost us dearly is a fools game. You learn from your mistakes, you dont ignore them and risk repeating them. I have no issue with acknowledging his run of defeats. It is clear though, that as soon as he cleared out the deadwood, which was all that he had at his disposal, prior to the window, results improved to a point where we pulled off the great escape. Morale was at an all time low off the back of Raes management and it takes a lot more than tactics to psychologically raise players on low morale to turn games into wins. It was a work in progress if you like. Very few managers would have been able to turn around what Jack did last season, even the best of managers. Yes his 6 defeats in a row contributed to us pushing close to relegation, though the run we went on when he had his own team in place, not many managers at St. Mirren will repeat a period like that and in the fashion we did. You only have to look at Yogis short time at Raith Rovers. Many were calling for his appointment prior to JR coming in. He couldn't lift his players when they start to plummet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 40 minutes ago, munoz said: http://www.thesackrace.com/teams/barnsley Jack Ross top of league , Jurgan Klinsmann in the relegation position at 66/1 . What a load of shecht. Play Stevie Mallan- Simples- they will be in the play offs in no time Do they really need a manager?? Falkirk, United and Caley don't have managers and they survive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, billyg said: He was interviewed today , along with a few others. He travelled down yesterday and stayed overnight. Tony must have been told to deny it for now , until there' developments one way or another ! So it's ok to lie to the fans that is pretty bad in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenziebud Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 51 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: You see right there... there it is.. a completely fabricated take on my post responding to Sonny who seemed to be insisting Ross got off to a flyer with us. Should we just all tell each other everything's great? Just like we did when appointing Murray..? Who is saying that Jack Ross got off to flyer ?. Nobody could have, even Fergie, with the team he inherited. Hence he had to bring in a whole new team. So what really is your point ? In fact I would say that Jack got off to a flyer in so much as in the first few months he had the ability to work out what was required and where ALL the weaknesses were. So the impossible to achieve by results was achieved by the work he did working out how to fix the mess Rae and Murray left. Jack Ross has done an immense job at St Mirren, even Fergie would have struggled to equal or better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted February 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, elvis said: So it's ok to lie to the fans that is pretty bad in my opinion. It's a tricky business though , everyone plays the cards close to their chest ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, billyg said: It's a tricky business though , everyone plays the cards close to their chest ! Ha ha- Eh no though don't - everyone speculates till they blow up................... We have game Sat that could make us total certs........ our manager should not be at Barnsley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, DougJamie said: Ha ha- Eh no though don't - everyone speculates till they blow up................... We have game Sat that could make us total certs........ our manager should not be at Barnsley He won't be going to Barnsley. He's on a gentleman's agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 13 minutes ago, elvis said: So it's ok to lie to the fans that is pretty bad in my opinion. If he wants to go then get rid. He will end up like so many others - too greedy to see out a contract. Rarely ends well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Have to say considering going myself http://www.visit-barnsley.com/things-to-do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, magnus said: If he wants to go then get rid. He will end up like so many others - too greedy to see out a contract. Rarely ends well. On the flip side, what if he won us a trophy, got us to, say, 8th in the top flight, saw out his contract, and we just cut him loose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 OR For a balanced view https://www.ilivehere.co.uk/barnsley.html Feck 10 worst places in England , that's pretty impressive considering apart from Cumbria a few streets in Oxford and West Cornwall, England is a total toilet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 He was interviewed today , along with a few others. He travelled down yesterday and stayed overnight. Tony must have been told to deny it for now , until there' developments one way or another ! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43060628So they interviewed a few "others" including Jack Ross then approached someone they never interviewed??? Think there is alot of sh*t getting wrote most of it on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 18 minutes ago, Ronnie said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43060628 So they interviewed a few "others" including Jack Ross then approached someone they never interviewed??? Think there is alot of sh*t getting wrote most of it on here. Yeah, you would never approach a club to speak to their manager unless he was your main man. Ainsworth has done an incredible job at Wycombe on a tight budget. Think last season they had a squad of around 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintGlenburn Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Id love to know how much the board would accept for Ross should they want him? He is possibly worth more than every player we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, kevo_smfc said: Ainsworth has done an incredible job at Wycombe on a tight budget. Think last season they had a squad of around 20. He got my coupon up last week with a 4-3 injury time win. For that alone he should be given the Barnsley job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Update shortly on Sportsound seemingly - courtesy of the bold Chick, however.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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