Magic Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, athens-saint said: Jack has a fantastic knowledge of the Scottish game. And good connections. He`s tapped into that by picking up a few real gems. It`s a big risk for Barnsley. Jack`s knowledge of the lower leagues in England has to be limited. Also, he has no transfer window to shuffle things around (as he did with us). In saying that, what sets Jack apart from the rest is his man-management skills. He`s sharp and he`s a winner. I think he will stay. Ross hasn't`t won anything yet. A Barnsley relegation on his CV could be harmful. If he goes now it could damage his long term future. If he plays the waiting game he can probably take his pick of a number of bigger clubs in the summer or beyond. Jack has to be looking at (or speaking with) McInnes. Sometimes England isn`t the best option. There is hope! We have a transfer comity who identify transfer targets, his job will be to coach and improve the players they bring in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, billyg said: Fergie told them to GTF the first time , probably because he was wrapped up in what he was doing with us ! and he done alright out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Magic said: We have a transfer comity who identify transfer targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Stu said: That wasn't the question What was the question again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss_Saint Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Magic said: We have a transfer comity who identify transfer targets, his job will be to coach and improve the players they bring in. So he does not get to form his own team, some other group decide who to buy and he has to try and meld them into the team??? That sucks Edited February 15, 2018 by Swiss_Saint addittion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just now, Swiss_Saint said: So he does not get to form his own team, some other group decide who to buy and he has to try and meld them into the team??? He’ll be on the comity too but yeah pretty much, we only sign certain types of player. Young, hungry for success, eager to learn, who fit into the style of play we want to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PvtDoberman Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) Sorry, l've just read their 30 page thread on him on their forum and their views on Barnsley. Paisley, f**king Paisley - everyone walks around in steel toe caps so the needles don't prick them. Too Our Barnsley friends,, Edited February 15, 2018 by PvtDoberman Wrong words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Magic said: He’ll be on the comity too but yeah pretty much, we only sign certain types of player. Young, hungry for success, eager to learn, who fit into the style of play we want to see. Is it working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just now, pod said: Is it working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, PvtDoberman said: Sorry, l've just read their 30 page thread on him on their forum and their views on Barnsley. Paisley, f**king Paisley - everyone walks around in steel toe caps so the needles don't prick them. Too Barnsley friends,, Walk around in steel toe caps to kick the f**k out of pricks more like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, pod said: Is it working. One win in seventeen (17).... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, PvtDoberman said: Sorry, l've just read their 30 page thread on him on their forum and their views on Barnsley. Paisley, f**king Paisley - everyone walks around in steel toe caps so the needles don't prick them. Too Our Barnsley friends,, Fair point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, pod said: Is it working. Yeah a treat, we’ve seen some fantastic players in last 3 years and made about £20M out of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Yeah a treat, we’ve seen some fantastic players in last 3 years and made about £20M out of them Where would you be if you hadn't sold them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 22 minutes ago, Magic said: He’ll be on the comity too but yeah pretty much, we only sign certain types of player. Young, hungry for success, eager to learn, who fit into the style of play we want to see. If that's the set up I'm more hopeful he will stay. Jack is a manager, not coach, and will want total control over who he brings in. Is comity Yorkshire for committee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Optimistic Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Magic said: Yeah a treat, we’ve seen some fantastic players in last 3 years and made about £20M out of them Players out 17/18 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Josh Scowen QPR Free 01 Jul, 2017 Jack Cowgill Boston Utd Free 01 Jul, 2017 Marc Roberts Birmingham Undisc. 01 Jul, 2017 Elliot Lee Luton Free 04 Jul, 2017 Cole Kpekawa Colchester Undisc. 17 Jul, 2017 Kayden Jackson Accrington Undisc. 21 Jul, 2017 Stefan Payne Shrewsbury Unknown 18 Aug, 2017 Sessi D'Almeida Blackpool Undisc. 18 Aug, 2017 Angus MacDonald Hull Undisc. 31 Jan, 2018 total £0 Players out 16/17 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Paul Digby Ipswich Undisc. 28 Jun, 2016 George B Williams MK Dons Free 01 Jul, 2016 Harry White Solihull M Free 01 Jul, 2016 Lukas Lidakevicius E Thurrock Unknown 01 Jul, 2016 Otis Khan Yeovil Free 20 Jul, 2016 Christian Dibble Boston Utd Free 20 Jul, 2016 George Smith Gateshead Free 20 Jul, 2016 Alfie Mawson Swansea £5,000,000 28 Aug, 2016 Reece Brown Bury Unknown 06 Jan, 2017 Sam Winnall Sheff Wed Unknown 13 Jan, 2017 James Bree Aston Villa Undisc. 25 Jan, 2017 Conor Hourihane Aston Villa Undisc. 26 Jan, 2017 Callum Evans Forest Green Free 22 May, 2017 Marley Watkins Norwich Free 01 Jun, 2017 Ryan Williams Rotherham Free 19 Jun, 2017 Total: £5,000,000 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Dale Jennings MK Dons Free 29 Jun, 2015 Kane Hemmings Dundee Signed 01 Jul, 2015 Rhys Oates Hartlepool Signed 01 Jul, 2015 Ross Turnbull Leeds Free 15 Jul, 2015 Milan Lalkovic Walsall Free 16 Jul, 2015 Martin Cranie Huddersfield Free 22 Jul, 2015 Luke Berry Cambridge U Unknown 22 Jul, 2015 Dominic McHale Ramsbottom Free 01 Aug, 2015 Mason Holgate Everton Signed 13 Aug, 2015 Keith Treacy Drogheda Free 25 Sep, 2015 Jean-Yves Mvoto Leyton Orient Free 20 Nov, 2015 Reece Wabara Wigan Free 14 Jan, 2016 Simeon Jackson Blackburn Free 15 Jan, 2016 Leroy Lita Yeovil Free 04 Mar, 2016 Mike Phenix Salford City Free 25 May, 2016 George Maris Cambridge U Free 03 Jun, 2016 Jak McCourt Northampton Free 24 Jun, 2016 Paul Digby Ipswich Undisc. 28 Jun, 2016 Harry White Solihull M Free 01 Jul, 2016 George B Williams MK Dons Free 01 Jul, 2016 Lukas Lidakevicius E Thurrock Unknown 01 Jul, 2016 Total: £0 Yeah a real batch of household names there!!! Apart from £5m for Alfie Mawson, not a penny brought in. Am i missing something!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whydowebother Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 If that's the set up I'm more hopeful he will stay. Jack is a manager, not coach, and will want total control over who he brings in. Is comity Yorkshire for committee? Living in Leeds as I’ve done for many years, Barnsley geographically appears to be in Yorkshire, we beg to differ , it’s a different universe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mr Optimistic said: Players out 17/18 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Josh Scowen QPR Free 01 Jul, 2017 Jack Cowgill Boston Utd Free 01 Jul, 2017 Marc Roberts Birmingham Undisc. 01 Jul, 2017 Elliot Lee Luton Free 04 Jul, 2017 Cole Kpekawa Colchester Undisc. 17 Jul, 2017 Kayden Jackson Accrington Undisc. 21 Jul, 2017 Stefan Payne Shrewsbury Unknown 18 Aug, 2017 Sessi D'Almeida Blackpool Undisc. 18 Aug, 2017 Angus MacDonald Hull Undisc. 31 Jan, 2018 total £0 Players out 16/17 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Paul Digby Ipswich Undisc. 28 Jun, 2016 George B Williams MK Dons Free 01 Jul, 2016 Harry White Solihull M Free 01 Jul, 2016 Lukas Lidakevicius E Thurrock Unknown 01 Jul, 2016 Otis Khan Yeovil Free 20 Jul, 2016 Christian Dibble Boston Utd Free 20 Jul, 2016 George Smith Gateshead Free 20 Jul, 2016 Alfie Mawson Swansea £5,000,000 28 Aug, 2016 Reece Brown Bury Unknown 06 Jan, 2017 Sam Winnall Sheff Wed Unknown 13 Jan, 2017 James Bree Aston Villa Undisc. 25 Jan, 2017 Conor Hourihane Aston Villa Undisc. 26 Jan, 2017 Callum Evans Forest Green Free 22 May, 2017 Marley Watkins Norwich Free 01 Jun, 2017 Ryan Williams Rotherham Free 19 Jun, 2017 Total: £5,000,000 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Dale Jennings MK Dons Free 29 Jun, 2015 Kane Hemmings Dundee Signed 01 Jul, 2015 Rhys Oates Hartlepool Signed 01 Jul, 2015 Ross Turnbull Leeds Free 15 Jul, 2015 Milan Lalkovic Walsall Free 16 Jul, 2015 Martin Cranie Huddersfield Free 22 Jul, 2015 Luke Berry Cambridge U Unknown 22 Jul, 2015 Dominic McHale Ramsbottom Free 01 Aug, 2015 Mason Holgate Everton Signed 13 Aug, 2015 Keith Treacy Drogheda Free 25 Sep, 2015 Jean-Yves Mvoto Leyton Orient Free 20 Nov, 2015 Reece Wabara Wigan Free 14 Jan, 2016 Simeon Jackson Blackburn Free 15 Jan, 2016 Leroy Lita Yeovil Free 04 Mar, 2016 Mike Phenix Salford City Free 25 May, 2016 George Maris Cambridge U Free 03 Jun, 2016 Jak McCourt Northampton Free 24 Jun, 2016 Paul Digby Ipswich Undisc. 28 Jun, 2016 Harry White Solihull M Free 01 Jul, 2016 George B Williams MK Dons Free 01 Jul, 2016 Lukas Lidakevicius E Thurrock Unknown 01 Jul, 2016 Total: £0 Yeah a real batch of household names there!!! Apart from £5m for Alfie Mawson, not a penny brought in. Am i missing something!? It's still about £4m more than we've brought in in the last............................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mr Optimistic said: Players out 17/18 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Josh Scowen QPR Free 01 Jul, 2017 Jack Cowgill Boston Utd Free 01 Jul, 2017 Marc Roberts Birmingham Undisc. 01 Jul, 2017 Elliot Lee Luton Free 04 Jul, 2017 Cole Kpekawa Colchester Undisc. 17 Jul, 2017 Kayden Jackson Accrington Undisc. 21 Jul, 2017 Stefan Payne Shrewsbury Unknown 18 Aug, 2017 Sessi D'Almeida Blackpool Undisc. 18 Aug, 2017 Angus MacDonald Hull Undisc. 31 Jan, 2018 total £0 Players out 16/17 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Paul Digby Ipswich Undisc. 28 Jun, 2016 George B Williams MK Dons Free 01 Jul, 2016 Harry White Solihull M Free 01 Jul, 2016 Lukas Lidakevicius E Thurrock Unknown 01 Jul, 2016 Otis Khan Yeovil Free 20 Jul, 2016 Christian Dibble Boston Utd Free 20 Jul, 2016 George Smith Gateshead Free 20 Jul, 2016 Alfie Mawson Swansea £5,000,000 28 Aug, 2016 Reece Brown Bury Unknown 06 Jan, 2017 Sam Winnall Sheff Wed Unknown 13 Jan, 2017 James Bree Aston Villa Undisc. 25 Jan, 2017 Conor Hourihane Aston Villa Undisc. 26 Jan, 2017 Callum Evans Forest Green Free 22 May, 2017 Marley Watkins Norwich Free 01 Jun, 2017 Ryan Williams Rotherham Free 19 Jun, 2017 Total: £5,000,000 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Dale Jennings MK Dons Free 29 Jun, 2015 Kane Hemmings Dundee Signed 01 Jul, 2015 Rhys Oates Hartlepool Signed 01 Jul, 2015 Ross Turnbull Leeds Free 15 Jul, 2015 Milan Lalkovic Walsall Free 16 Jul, 2015 Martin Cranie Huddersfield Free 22 Jul, 2015 Luke Berry Cambridge U Unknown 22 Jul, 2015 Dominic McHale Ramsbottom Free 01 Aug, 2015 Mason Holgate Everton Signed 13 Aug, 2015 Keith Treacy Drogheda Free 25 Sep, 2015 Jean-Yves Mvoto Leyton Orient Free 20 Nov, 2015 Reece Wabara Wigan Free 14 Jan, 2016 Simeon Jackson Blackburn Free 15 Jan, 2016 Leroy Lita Yeovil Free 04 Mar, 2016 Mike Phenix Salford City Free 25 May, 2016 George Maris Cambridge U Free 03 Jun, 2016 Jak McCourt Northampton Free 24 Jun, 2016 Paul Digby Ipswich Undisc. 28 Jun, 2016 Harry White Solihull M Free 01 Jul, 2016 George B Williams MK Dons Free 01 Jul, 2016 Lukas Lidakevicius E Thurrock Unknown 01 Jul, 2016 Total: £0 Yeah a real batch of household names there!!! Apart from £5m for Alfie Mawson, not a penny brought in. Am i missing something!? Aye, the "undisclosed" fees were far from free transfers, so it's probably reasonable to assume £20m for that lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mr Optimistic said: Yeah a real batch of household names there!!! Apart from £5m for Alfie Mawson, not a penny brought in. Am i missing something!? BUT: they are paying what I would imagine is fairly good wages for a majority of players who they then transfer for free ............... weekly on-going costs; (in the main players salaries) are a clubs main outgoings and that must amount to a penny or two methinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrhead saint Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Think they got a hefty sell on fee for John Stones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mr Optimistic said: Players out 17/18 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Josh Scowen QPR Free 01 Jul, 2017 Jack Cowgill Boston Utd Free 01 Jul, 2017 Marc Roberts Birmingham Undisc. 01 Jul, 2017 Elliot Lee Luton Free 04 Jul, 2017 Cole Kpekawa Colchester Undisc. 17 Jul, 2017 Kayden Jackson Accrington Undisc. 21 Jul, 2017 Stefan Payne Shrewsbury Unknown 18 Aug, 2017 Sessi D'Almeida Blackpool Undisc. 18 Aug, 2017 Angus MacDonald Hull Undisc. 31 Jan, 2018 total £0 Players out 16/17 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Paul Digby Ipswich Undisc. 28 Jun, 2016 George B Williams MK Dons Free 01 Jul, 2016 Harry White Solihull M Free 01 Jul, 2016 Lukas Lidakevicius E Thurrock Unknown 01 Jul, 2016 Otis Khan Yeovil Free 20 Jul, 2016 Christian Dibble Boston Utd Free 20 Jul, 2016 George Smith Gateshead Free 20 Jul, 2016 Alfie Mawson Swansea £5,000,000 28 Aug, 2016 Reece Brown Bury Unknown 06 Jan, 2017 Sam Winnall Sheff Wed Unknown 13 Jan, 2017 James Bree Aston Villa Undisc. 25 Jan, 2017 Conor Hourihane Aston Villa Undisc. 26 Jan, 2017 Callum Evans Forest Green Free 22 May, 2017 Marley Watkins Norwich Free 01 Jun, 2017 Ryan Williams Rotherham Free 19 Jun, 2017 Total: £5,000,000 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Dale Jennings MK Dons Free 29 Jun, 2015 Kane Hemmings Dundee Signed 01 Jul, 2015 Rhys Oates Hartlepool Signed 01 Jul, 2015 Ross Turnbull Leeds Free 15 Jul, 2015 Milan Lalkovic Walsall Free 16 Jul, 2015 Martin Cranie Huddersfield Free 22 Jul, 2015 Luke Berry Cambridge U Unknown 22 Jul, 2015 Dominic McHale Ramsbottom Free 01 Aug, 2015 Mason Holgate Everton Signed 13 Aug, 2015 Keith Treacy Drogheda Free 25 Sep, 2015 Jean-Yves Mvoto Leyton Orient Free 20 Nov, 2015 Reece Wabara Wigan Free 14 Jan, 2016 Simeon Jackson Blackburn Free 15 Jan, 2016 Leroy Lita Yeovil Free 04 Mar, 2016 Mike Phenix Salford City Free 25 May, 2016 George Maris Cambridge U Free 03 Jun, 2016 Jak McCourt Northampton Free 24 Jun, 2016 Paul Digby Ipswich Undisc. 28 Jun, 2016 Harry White Solihull M Free 01 Jul, 2016 George B Williams MK Dons Free 01 Jul, 2016 Lukas Lidakevicius E Thurrock Unknown 01 Jul, 2016 Total: £0 Yeah a real batch of household names there!!! Apart from £5m for Alfie Mawson, not a penny brought in. Am i missing something!? Bree and hourihane £8M Winnall a couple, £4.5 for Roberts plus the other undiscloseds that’ll add up to a couple of million and £9M for Stones . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsden buddie Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, freddy said: To the folk saying Ross should turn down the job, get promoted with us, then put himself in the shop window for a bigger club than Barnsley - it didn't work out that way for Macpherson or Hendrie, so why would Ross want to take that risk? A manager with any sense would grab an opportunity like this, as it's only like to come along when he's on a high with his current club. I see little realistic prospect of a better offer coming along after you've been floating about in the bottom half of the Premier League for a year or two. By the same token, I don't understand why Barnsley are apparently so keen on Ross. Up to this point he hasn't achieved anything that the likes of Macpherson, Hendrie didn't achieve. In fact, a manager wins the Scottish Championship every season - do they all get poached by bigger clubs from down south? The reason a team like Barnsley are apparently so keen on Ross is because he took over a team that looked dead a buried last season and according to every pundit and majority of opposition and our own fans were absolutely certain to be relegated, and transformed them into a team that are now sitting 14 points clear at the top in only a single season with relatively limited resources. Barnsley themselves are having a poor season and sit in the relegation zone in the championship and would have said to themselves, if Ross can do it at st mirren he can do it with us aswell. It is no surprise at all that they came in for him. In my opinion tho i dont think he will take the job. Yes the money he will get down there will be a lot more than we could offer him, but i think he is a smarter man than to just immediately jump for the money. Barnsely have had 8 managers in the last 8 years, and in the past 20 years they have had 21 managers. It is clear that managerial stability is not one of their strong points. However he is in a very comfortable position here and no doubt will be offered a significantly better deal to stay. Just like st mirren last season they are potentially on the brink of relegation in this case to the 3rd tier of English football. However in this scenario their is no transfer window for Jack bring in his own players, he has to work with what they have right now, which so far this season have been fairly underachieving for a team like Barnsley. I wouldnt begrudge him for taking the job, they are inevitable a much bigger team than we are, however i just dont think the timing is right for him to move. With a league win under his belt in his first full season with us , and then even potentially a good season in the top flight (should we get there) and im sure he will get much better offers than from a struggling Barnsley side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Optimistic Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Magic said: Bree and hourihane £8M Winnall a couple, £4.5 for Roberts plus the other undiscloseds that’ll add up to a couple of million and £9M for Stones . Stones left Jan 2013!!!! Edited February 15, 2018 by Mr Optimistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Mr Optimistic said: Jones left Jan 2013!!!! Tom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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