DXBBud Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) Without trying to jump the gun on remaining in the SPL this time next year, and with the increase in home crowds peaking with a sell-outs of the remaining home games, is it time to start thinking about filling in the corners at Greenfield Road? This is very much a speculate to accumulate issue, but if we can maintain the interest and buzz that is circulating the club from home fans and with the increased numbers that will visit from the ugly sisters, Hibs, Hearts etc. it will be interesting to see how close we get to filling the ground on a more regular basis to justify expanding the stadium one corner at a time, which will count towards returning on the investment. Edited April 9, 2018 by DXBBud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, DXBBud said: Without trying to jump the gun on remaining in the SPL this time next year, and with the increase in home crowds peaking with a sell-outs of the remaining home games, is it time to start thinking about filling in the corners at Greenfield Road? This is very much a speculate to accumulate issue, but if we can maintain the interest and buzz that is circulating the club from home fans and with the increased numbers that will visit from the ugly sisters, Hibs, Hearts etc. it will be interesting to see how close we get to filling the ground on a more regular basis to justify expanding the stadium one corner at a time, which will count towards returning on the investment. No. The cost of this speculation would be not even close to seeing a return, EVER. We've been in the top league before, never sold out as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TediousTom Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, DXBBud said: Without trying to jump the gun on remaining in the SPL this time next year, and with the increase in home crowds peaking with a sell-outs of the remaining home games, is it time to start thinking about filling in the corners at Greenfield Road? This is very much a speculate to accumulate issue, but if we can maintain the interest and buzz that is circulating the club from home fans and with the increased numbers that will visit from the ugly sisters, Hibs, Hearts etc. it will be interesting to see how close we get to filling the ground on a more regular basis to justify expanding the stadium one corner at a time, which will count towards returning on the investment. No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 The only way this would be feasible is if we somehow came into money either a fan winning the lottery or selling a player for 5 million or something....in other words...no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddie-Boy Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 I would love to see this happen, but I doubt it ever will. One simple reason - it would cost millions and there would be little to no demand for the seats most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Buddie-Boy said: I would love to see this happen, but I doubt it ever will. One simple reason - it would cost millions and there would be little to no demand for the seats most all of the time. Enough of that common sense, not really the done thing on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 If this ever did happen i would like to see it as a standing section for those who would prefer to stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DXBBud Posted April 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, faraway saint said: No. The cost of this speculation would be not even close to seeing a return, EVER. We've been in the top league before, never sold out as far as I know. Don't get me wrong, i'm not expecting to fill the ground week in week out, and i'm not suggesting we do it next week or the club burdens itself with debt that we don't want or need, but the club we have today is a different animal to what we had when we were last in the top flight. I would imagine when the ground was designed the capacity considered some sort of growth in attendances in the future, just wondered where the tipping point for taking such a step would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E=Mc2 Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Once we sell out the stadium pre season with season ticket holders maybe then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, DXBBud said: Don't get me wrong, i'm not expecting to fill the ground week in week out, and i'm not suggesting we do it next week or the club burdens itself with debt that we don't want or need, but the club we have today is a different animal to what we had when we were last in the top flight. I would imagine when the ground was designed the capacity considered some sort of growth in attendances in the future, just wondered where the tipping point for taking such a step would be. I admire your optimism, but, as you say, it, at this moment, and foreseeable future, would be a burden that not even "borrowing" from SMISA would help. There would need to be an astounding steady growth, and, barring us challenging for the top league I doubt will EVER happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madball Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 No to expanding seating areas further unless we reach 80-90% capacity, and even then would need to be built incorporating an income generating asset into build outside of matchdays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, DXBBud said: Don't get me wrong, i'm not expecting to fill the ground week in week out, and i'm not suggesting we do it next week or the club burdens itself with debt that we don't want or need, but the club we have today is a different animal to what we had when we were last in the top flight. I would imagine when the ground was designed the capacity considered some sort of growth in attendances in the future, just wondered where the tipping point for taking such a step would be. It's not really. When the team is winning, people come out. In 2006 the last couple of games at home v Dundee and St Johnstone would have been full. In 2000 against Raith it was also packed. The reality of the Premiership is that years of the same old and relegation battles don't really make punters come out and attendances will end up in the 3000-4500 range most weeks. It's also more affordable to manage demand by jacking the ticket prices than building capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 I'm sure I read their is a plan by Gordon Scott to have a coffee shop / Offices this is a fantastic idea to make a corner looked filled in just not for seasts that are really not needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) I like the idea in principle..who wouldn't? Would need to have a growing demand for Season Tickets. Also agree with I Madball and IOBS that the corners should have other facilities that can raise revenue such as cafe. Offices etc. Edited April 9, 2018 by St.Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 First thing that should happen in the corners is to cover up the two JD round adverts. I cannot believe they are paying for them having been turfed out for Joma. If they are still paying for them, fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintargyll Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 What might work is to fill in the 2 corners of the main stand with comfy corporate hospitality seating behind glass and with access to a larger dining area and charge at a premium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Only room for+/- a couple of hundred seats in each corner, so never going to be cost effective if something else was built to generate proper income then great, incorporate away, but I dont see that happening either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 What about a 2nd tier on top of existing stands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 minute ago, HSS said: What about a 2nd tier on top of existing stands? For what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 minute ago, faraway saint said: For what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Soctty said: ^^^^^Maybe I should have posted one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, saintargyll said: What might work is to fill in the 2 corners of the main stand with comfy corporate hospitality seating behind glass and with access to a larger dining area and charge at a premium Thats not a bad idea as on match days hospitality the rest of the week a good coffee shop. The coffee shop needs to be right to pull in woman who by in large are the biggest day time market in my experience of opening a coffee shop this is the place they meet up with friends wine can be a good seller also Get the concept right it could be a good income to the club great its good fantastic Parking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original 59er Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 You would have to go back to the late 60's to see regular crowds above 8,000. Yes when the Glasgow twins turn up, they bring with them their pretty mindless followers who aren't allowed season tickets at their own grounds, and we might then see capacity, but even on a good run and Aberdeen, Hibs, Hearts or whoever come to play, 6,000 would be a pretty good crowd. Average attendances for 2017/18 show that for smaller clubs 6,000 would be a pretty good gate size. No. Club Average Games vs '17 Highest 1 Celtic FC 58.083 10 6,1% 59.259 2 Rangers FC 49.097 10 -0,1% 50.116 3 Heart of Midlothian FC 19.379 10 18,8% 32.852 4 Hibernian FC Edinburgh 17.634 9 14,6% 20.193 5 Aberdeen FC 15.577 10 25,1% 18.983 6 Dundee FC 6.407 10 0,0% 9.193 7 Motherwell FC 5.857 10 30,6% 9.974 8 Kilmarnock FC 5.344 11 5,5% 11.490 9 Ross County FC 4.667 10 13,7% 6.590 10 St. Johnstone FC 4.641 9 4,7% 6.887 11 Partick Thistle FC 4.641 10 11,7% 8.264 12 Hamilton Academical FC 3.140 9 28,7% 5.400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 minute ago, HSS said: ^^^^^Maybe I should have posted one of them. Aye, some things need to be signposted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, HSS said: ^^^^^Maybe I should have posted one of them. Maybe you should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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