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  1. 13 points
    On Sat we played Away with a 4-4-1-1and attacked playing good football. Tonight at Home we start 4-2-3-1 with 2 sitting midfielders playing in front of the back 4 leaving acres of space in the middle. And Andre and McGrath didn't chase or put in a tackle. Could't believe Goody didn't change the formation after 20 mins as we were being overrun. Foley had his worst ever game and there was no leadership in the team. Felt sorry for Junior being taken off as he had put in a good shift and Andreu gets 90mins while contributing little. We got out of jail tonight but formation and personnel were Goody's responsibility and he made a mess of it. Hopefully that is our worst display out the way now.
  2. 13 points
    What are the specific benefits to Kibble that would require a 27% shareholding in SMFC?
  3. 13 points
    Magic Monkey

    Welcome Siefedin Chabbi

    I, for one, would like to welcome Chabbi and our new 2-3-5 formation.
  4. 12 points
    Sonny

    SMFC/SMISA teetering on the brink...

    If all the arguments for and against were carried out in a non-emotional and professional way citing facts, figures and links to back up statements then maybe those undecided would have something to ponder. However like politicians there is a lot of shouting, emotional outburst and innuendo so floating voters are none the wiser. If people have genuine questions that they require elaboration on these should be put at the meeting and maybe confirmed in writing by the proposers before any deal is voted on. Guessing on here gets us nowhere.
  5. 12 points
    div

    Kibble/SMiSA Partnership

    Hates SMiSA. Hates Gordon Scott. Hated 10000Hours. Surprised to see LPM being opposed to this. Very surprised.
  6. 11 points
    div

    SMFC/SMISA teetering on the brink...

    Let’s not forget that Kibble are also saving SMiSA members £300K, an average of £250 a head. We probably also shouldn’t overlook the fact that as 51% shareholders, SMiSA will have the majority shareholding of the football club, and thus the football club will be, by definition, “fan owned”. By the end of next year. And its maybe worthwhile remembering that we get the benefit of the expertise and infrastructure of a 140 year old organisation who have a turnover 10 times the size of the club, working with us. And we get all of this, with a partner who is not driven by profit, but rather one that exists to help young people develop and prosper. Blind? Blinded by a personal grudge with the chairman I’d say.
  7. 11 points
    Can you confirm that this proposal is an extraordinary one as defined by the SMiSA constitution and therefore must have 75% agreement from the total membership to pass.
  8. 11 points
    Kombibuddie

    Kibble/SMiSA Partnership

    After contacting SMISA with a query about an option to add "Save the Pot" to the 3 monthly spend pot votes. I met 2 members of the SMISA committee on Wednesday 28th November 2018 at Banco Nero. Their purpose was to dissuade me from pursuing the proposal on the £2 spend pot. During that meeting, they went through SMISA' finances with me, their forecasts & projections and stated to me, they'd have the funds (if member numbers remained at that level) to complete the purchase of St Mirren FC in 2023. They explained their plans to "build a rainy day fund" by maintaining member subscriptions beyond that date as "we have up to 10 years to complete the purchase of GLS' shares" 1200 members continuing to pay £12 per month for almost 4 years after they have the funds to complete the buyout realises a significant fund. The figure they put to me was in excess of £500000 which would help maintain "safeguarding The Club". Even if the £2 pot spend continued, they could raise more than half a million pounds if the BTB term went to the full 10 years. No matter when BTB completes, SMISA members will need to continue paying a subscription to remain a member. Even those who bought the £2500 package. That was a 10 year membership. I expect, there will be a drop off in membership once the Buds is Bought as there will be members who bought into a 10 year investment to safeguard St Mirren FC by bringing it under fan ownership. I am, in no doubts, this proposal to become co-owners with Kibble is dazzling but it is now very different to what SMISA sold to the fans. We don't need to be joint owners with Kibble or anyone else to make our fan ownership a success. SMISA can complete their purchase of GLS's shares and still have a very successful partnership/collaboration with Kibble without having Kibble as a shareholder. St Mirren will be safer owning 60+% of the shares, even safer owning 70+% of shares and even safer owning 80%+ of shares. It is unlikely SMISA will achieve owning of 100% of the shares but the more SMISA owns, the safer the club is. It really is that simple. Even though, SMISA become the majority shareholder, accepting this proposal, to accept a 3rd party purchasing 27% of the Club has it's risks. We have the gift to ensure the safety of St Mirren FC once & for all by buying the largest % of shareholding available to us and that is by continuing as is, complete the purchase in 2023 and build the rainy day fund through the continuing memberships required by each & every one of us to remain members of SMISA. I'd save the £2 pot too & create a bigger pot but that's a different argument
  9. 11 points
    Stu

    SMISA/ Kibble proposed BTB changes

    Looking forward to a sensible, rational, grown-up debate on these proposals. Anyone know of a forum where I'm likely to find that?
  10. 11 points
    Aye opening up worked well at Tynecastle !!! A lot of people need to get real if they seriously think we should be going toe to toe at Ibrox or Parkhead. So far our tactics against both cheeks have been spot on. It's the only way you give yourself any chance of getting something out the game against teams like that. Like it or not both are vastly superior to us.
  11. 11 points
    munoz

    Rangers v St Mirren, Wed 22nd Jan 2020

    We were playing against a team that's lost one league game , scored 54 and conceded 11 goals. We went with a game plan that could have easily worked out. Reality check needed.
  12. 11 points
    Part of me thinks Danny is actually better as an impact sub, but I do think he’s a great wee player. Anyway, yesterday’s game. Me and Jimmy H were sitting on £182 from a bet win a few weeks ago and decided it would be our first kitty when we head up to Edinburgh in a couple of weeks for the Hibs game. Yesterday we decided to whack the lot on St. Mirren -2 goals as we thought it was free money. Imagine how our frustration turned to joy in the last few minutes. 😁
  13. 11 points
    Obika does the same job for us that Billy Mehmet did a few years ago. He's a massively important player to us. I can understand people getting frustrated at his lack of finishing but he's more talented than anyone we've had up top for about 6 or 7 years.
  14. 10 points
    portmahomack saint

    Armchair Fans

    Take it the Valentine date with Faraway didn't go too well Ricky
  15. 10 points
    elvis

    Ross Wallace Signs

    f**ksake man what you want the manager to do.
  16. 10 points
    The last few pages are absolutely f**king brutal reading. Can three or four of them be put in the sin bin? Maybe rename it the ‘Spin Bin’ as that’s all they shout at each other.
  17. 10 points
    For all you slag LPM the feeling I got at Easter Road from the SMISA members I spoke to is one of great distrust to a proposal eight Months in the making without a murmur. The original plan merely ripped up and discarded. For all the confidence shown on here I think it could be a very close vote. Also do not think something like this should be decided on a simple majority. Should be 75% of all members for such a huge change.
  18. 10 points
    https://communityshares.org.uk/resources/handbook/community-benefit-societies I think LPM is wrong when he says that the sale of shares to Kibble would be illegal after SMISA buys the club. That doesn't appear to be true. Many businesses in the third sector do sell off chunks of their assets to private companies. That is perfectly legal. The stipulation under the regulations would be that the money from that sale of those assets would have to be used for the benefit of the broader interests of the community and not profit any member of the society. However I do think it is healthy to hold a large degree of scepticism over the proposal. After all the Trustees of a charity have a legal duty to ensure that all of their resources are used only to further or support it's charitable aims and I doubt that handing over six figure sums to a wealthy property developer driving an Aston Martin for his shares in a football club that are supposed to be worthless would fit their legal obligations. So the question remains - what are they getting in return for their money that will further the aims of their charity? What is it that is being sold off at the football club for the sole financial benefit of Gordon Scott? And why are the committee at SMISA so happy to jump on board? I have to say as well that rather than turn ire on LPM for trying to raise awareness and discussion on the issue, it would be far more healthy for St Mirren fans to pour scorn and anger on the likes of - in this case smcc - who has posted to the effect that fans of the club should just do as the Chairman wants out of deference and respect to him. Many other football club fans have found to their cost that their chairman being a fan of their club doesn't offer any protection for the long term future of the club, when that individual is also driven by greed and a desire to make money out of every opportunity.
  19. 10 points
    Exactly bud. Home results for Sevco 2012 this season include: 5-0 v Hearts (who had 2 shots) 5-0 v Hamilton (3 shots) 5-0 v Aberdeen (4 shots) 6-1 v Hibs (6 shots) Going down 1-0 meant we were in the game until the final whistle was blown. Better teams than us have been gubbed there, and many don’t exactly fire ten shots per game either. Some of our fans need to get a f**king grip.
  20. 9 points
    If you are a current, former or potential smisa member you need to understand this! Smisa is a Community Benefit Society, the crucial reasons for Smisa taking the lead in Fans owning the club are possibly much more crucial and fundamental than you may consider? Yes if the fans ( Smisa & small shareholders) own over 90% of the club, then no one organisation or individual can come in and run the club to suit the aims, which may not be in the club's best interests. But there are much more deeper, fundamental reasons that the club chairman, Smisa committee and shockingly an outside organisation are being allowed to "condition" you into believing "it's a done deal so just agree" and not consider before deciding how to vote. A community benefit society can only sell its assets if the proceeds of that sale benefit the community. The club chairman, Kibble and smisa committee know this, and know this sale of over a quarter of the club to Kibble could not happen when Smisa takes over! So their joint aim is to deceive/convince you this is "the greatest deal ever" as they need you to do it now, before it becomes illegal. In essence they are trying to play you to agree whilst They benefit from it. There is not one reason why the club could not start to deliver almost every service that Kibble offer! The hard fact is Kibble want YOUR community asset to be able to use it to provide services to people from all over the UK. That's their business, why should we hand over our communities asset to benefit Kibble? Indeed the club actually make money at present from hiring facilities to Kibble that go directly into benefitting the community! There is no reason why, if required we couldnt hire/partner Kibble, or any other providers of the type of service we cant deliver ourselves, until we were able to deliver it ourselves without selling our community asset! But that crucially doesn't bebefit Kibble as much as it does OUR community! They are desperate for you to let this shocking stripping of your community asset NOW... before it becomes Illegal. So the simple question I believe Smisa members should consider is... " do I want to benefit my community with our assets, or Kibble and our chairman's bank balance? There are so many things others have said the club could never do, or be, that we have done and become. Play the long game, hold onto your community asset and use it to benefit your club and community. This below is what we should be building ourselves, not subbing it out in bits and pieces... https://www.foundationoflight.co.uk/about-us/
  21. 9 points
    Absolutely heartbreaking. Probably our best player over the past 12 months. Actually, f**k the 'probably', he has been our best player. Two ACLs gone in the matter of a couple of weeks to two of our best guys. Stunningly bad luck for the players and the club. Best of luck with the recovery.
  22. 9 points
    Lord Pityme

    SMFC/SMISA teetering on the brink...

    It's being resized to 51% of the original
  23. 9 points
    Yflab

    SMFC/SMISA teetering on the brink...

    It was a very positive meeting tonight. I was very sceptical beforehand but I came away feeling very positive about this proposal. I’d recommend that you all listen to the recording and make your own mind up before you vote.
  24. 9 points
    saintargyll

    St Mirren v Hamilton, 5th Feb 2020

    i think i speak for all the posters in here of a certain vintage ... typical st.mirren
  25. 9 points
    I'd say there's a benefit in not having 2 board members from a seperate organisation who will have to prioritise the interests of that organisation and their investment.
  26. 9 points
    faraway saint

    Speculation Thread

    Hang on, I'll get @Sweeper07 to make a call.
  27. 9 points
    Cornwall_Saint

    Welcome Alex Jakubiak

    It’s relevant in the sense that no one else is putting the ball in the net for us. Obika gets hounded yet he’s the only one who has some idea of how to grab a goal. Goals Scored - Obika is 13th in the league. Those above him are: Green Bigots x3 (Eduoard, Christie, Forrest) Zombies x3 (Morelos, Kent, Defoe) That leaves: Cosgrave (11), Dykes, Doidge (8), Lawless, Stewart (7) and Donnelly (6). Hamilton, Hearts, Kilmarnock and St Johnstone (1/3 of the league) don’t have a player who has hit 5 league goals yet this season.
  28. 9 points
    In his post-match interview JG was clear that he had deliberately set up defensively to avoid losing a hatful of goals like a few other teams have done against Rangers and Celtic this season. In my view that makes sense. It's often been said previously that our fate won't be decided by games against Rangers and Celtic but by the games against the teams around us in the bottom six. So it's sensible to set up against Rangers and Celtic to protect our goal difference, as that is likely to be very important at the end of the season. JG also made it clear in the interview that he wouldn't be setting the team up this way against other teams in the league. Seems a reasonable way of looking at things. On to Aberdeen on Sunday and...….COYS!!
  29. 9 points
    On Thursday I made the horrible mistake of watching a bit of BBC Question Time, and I've been infuriated by what I saw ever since. I've been hesitant to write about it because I don't particularly want to do the old "white guy explains racism" thing, but some of this stuff needs to be said, and one of the saddest things about racism is that certain people will be far more likely to listen if it's being talked about by a white person just having a say, than a person of colour with far more experiences of witnessing and dealing with racism first hand, and even academic qualifications on race issues. I'm not entirely sure what qualified the actor Laurence Fox to appear on a high profile political panel, but for some reason he was invited onto the show, where he give an extraordinary performance of racism-denial and white victimhood posturing. He started off by claiming that Britain "is the most tolerant lovely country in Europe”, which is palpable nonsense given the fact that the UK government systematically deported scores of black British citizens, many of whom died in exile overseas, and that the party that introduced the unlawfully racist 'Hostile Environment" legislation that underpinned this deportation drive has been reelected three times since. When he was called out on this racism-denial Fox resorted to the ludicrous stance that white people are the actual victims of racism, which created a truly absurd conception of a kind of Schrödinger's racism that doesn't exist, yet persecutes white people. I have no academic qualifications on race studies, so feel free to explain where you feel I've gone wrong if you disagree, but I think three distinct types of racism are at play in contemporary Britain. The first is explicit racism. People who use racist slurs and generalisations, monkey chant at black footballers, discriminate against non-white people and deny the Britishness of non-white Brits, fetishise their own whiteness to the extent of claiming to be "pure English" or "pure British", talk about multicultural cities and areas as being "lost", add -istan to the end of British place names, and/or continually bang on about 'Asian grooming gangs' whilst completely ignoring the child sex crimes of white people, and especially the multitude of child sex abuse cases amongst members of Tommy Robinson's street thuggery operations ... These people are extremely easy to identify as racists. Then there's systemic racism, which manifests in a multitude of different ways. One of the clearest examples is the fact black and Asian Brits are far less likely to get to the interview stage using their real names, than if they use an assumed British name like James Smith, or Ann Carter. The most glaring manifestation of this kind of systemic racism was Theresa May's 2014 "Hostile Environment" legislation, that was used to deny employment, housing, social security, banking services, and even life-saving medical care to black Brits. As the legislation was being passed through parliament Theresa May openly stated that this legislation would be used to "deport now, hear appeals later", and only 18 MPs bothered to oppose this vile racist shite. Which brings us to the third type of racism: passive tolerance of racism. You don't have to be an outright racist to be tolerant of racism. If you're an MP who wilfully abstains on brazenly racist legislation out of fear that the right-wing propaganda rags will attack you as "soft on immigration" then you're a passive racist. If you sit there and say nothing when you hear someone in your social group using grotesque racist slurs or resorting to far-right white victimhood propaganda, then you're being passively racist too. And you're definitely passively racist if you vote in favour of a Tory party led by an overt racist, that pushed through the unlawfully racist Hostile Environment, because you're calculating that there's some other (probably imaginary) benefit to keeping the Tories in power that outweighs their proven racism. The problem of course is that a lot of people who benefit from systemic racism, and/or behave in passively racist ways get very upset indeed when you call out these forms of racism, because they don't self-identify as racist, and feel like they're being classified alongside the vile explicitly racist monkey chanting mob. People who don't really think about or understand the issues are easy to rile up. All you have to do is misrepresent a critique of systemic racism as an attack on white people like them, and suddenly they're churning out the extreme-right tropes, and railing against "political correctness" with no real conception that they've been emotionally manipulated into doing the ideological leg work for the extreme-right. Once the extreme-right have inflated people's senses of persecution and victimhood to the size of a hot air balloon, it only takes small puffs of wind to get them floating in the direction they want them to. Hence the term "white privilege" becoming such a lightning rod of resentment amongst people who don't have any real interest in understanding what it actually means. Just like other privileges such as class privilege and male privilege, this doesn't mean you've won some kind of prize in life that automatically makes you super-successful, it just means that you don't have other people around you, and the system itself, making your life shittier just because of the colour of your skin, the accent you talk with, or your gender. As a guy from a working class background who speaks with an unmistakably norther accent, who has lived, studied, and worked amongst the upper classes, I have a lot more first hand experience of witnessing classism than racism. To deny that classism exists would be as absurd as downplaying and minimising racism. From the fact that the 7% privately educated class are still massively over-represented in all the top professions, to the massive disparities in pay for the exact same job between upper, and non-upper class workers, it's undeniable that classism exists in modern Britain. But this doesn't mean that everyone born into the upper classes is a selfish, elitist, shitbag who thinks about the lower orders in the same way as Boris Johnson (that we're all "useless", "drunk", "criminal", "aimless", "feckless" and "hopeless"). An awful lot of people with class privilege are like this of course, but there are many others who have recognised the systemic privileges they've benefited from, and argued in favour of making things fairer for the rest of us, from Bertrand Russell, to George Orwell, to Tony Benn. But then class privilege extends beyond national borders too. I may be from a northern working class background, but compared to the working classes in Chinese sweatshops, or Indonesian paddy fields, or sub-Saharan Africa, I'm living on easy street. The least privileged demographics in the UK are still amongst the most privileged demographic worldwide. What I'm steering towards is the concept of intersectionality, which is the idea that there's no one primary defining issue when it comes to privilege and discrimination. In reality our lives are defined by all manner of factors like race, class, creed, sex, sexual orientation, disability, geographic location, and intelligence. I'm aware enough to understand that I've won the lottery in most of these factors. Not because being white, or heterosexual, or male, or able bodied, or 'Western' makes me inherently better than anyone else of course, but because I'm not going to be personally abused or systematically discriminated against over any of these things. And it makes me absolutely sick to hear people with even more privileges than me (like someone who was educated at Harrow or Eton for example) downplaying and minimising racism, and even making out that white wealthy males are 'the real victims' of persecution. But to certain people, who are used to the game being absolutely rigged in favour of people like them, any efforts to make the playing field ever so slightly fairer will come across as persecution against them and their kind. Back in 2009 there was a huge outcry when BBC Question Time invited the explicitly racist BNP leader Nick Griffin onto the show. But the extreme-right attitudes and tactics that were reviled then have become so absolutely commonplace today that they're not just espoused by right-wing propaganda hacks and the leaders of the ruling Tory party, but by C-list actors on Question Time like Laurence Fox. And just by trying to downplay and minimise racism, and playing the extreme-right 'white victimhood' card, Fox is clearly proving that Britain is in fact far more tolerant of racist attitudes and extreme-right propaganda than it was just a little over a decade ago, because back then it was mainly just the explicit racists coming out with this kind of extreme-right pish, but now it's so socially acceptable to push extreme-right propaganda that actors, TV hosts, musicians, and senior politicians are all doing it with impunity, and those who call them out are the ones who end up getting dogpiled and abused.
  30. 9 points
    Damage to the stadium should be deducted from the share due to Broxburn.
  31. 9 points
    Ayrshire Saints

    Speculation Thread

    A wide player and a striker according to Goody in the 1877 tonight.
  32. 9 points
    TopCat

    St Mirren v Broxburn Athletic 18/1/20

    FT 3-0 Job done, move on. Definitely a bit rusty after the break. Should have still had about 6 or 7 though, the Broxburn keeper definite man of the match. He had about 5 fantastic saves in the second half alone. Mullen’s goal at the end was a much easier save than several he made. Broxburn did well enough but as with most part time teams their fitness went in the second half. Delighted for big Jon Obika to get another brace. Bizarrely he gets a lot of pelters from a section of our support. Doesn’t stop him scoring goals thankfully.
  33. 8 points
    div

    SMFC/SMISA teetering on the brink...

    Div wants everyone to review the facts of the proposal and to make their own minds up about what way to vote. Div doesn't mind if the proposal is defeated or accepted. Either way Div will be a SMiSA member for ever more. Div doesn't do walking away. Don't speak for Div thank you very much, Div can do it for himself. ps; Let's not forget that Div is giving you the public platform to absolutely slate the Kibble, SMiSA, the club, the board and the chairman. I'm all for free speech.
  34. 8 points
    Deserved nothing tonight. We were rotten from start to finish. I know people who were at the game will say the ref was shocking and he was. Our performance was disgusting especially first half. Could have been 3 down in the first half. There was no player except Hladky who deserved more than 1 out of 10. Why do we use the social media rubbish to pick a MOM. Cos I dont think anybody in the stadium thought McCarthy was MOM. People who are picking it are not even at the game. But one would be hard to pick. Could pick Durmus for his goal. But apart that the only other thing of note was how Andreu could clear the stand from 16 yeards. Must have landed on the dome. Play like that against Motherwell and we will be pumped. Bad night. Must do better. Goodys tactics were poor as well. High balls to Morias. What coaching manual did that come out of. Piss poor. Mr Newlands the ref should be seeking a different career cos hes not a SPL ref.
  35. 8 points
    I am also struggling to see the benefit of passing part of our expected shareholding to a 3rd party. From my attempts to understand the proposal the summary would be 1 GLS sells some shares early and receives cash early 2 Kibble get a shareholding that was not in original proposals 3 Final SMISA shareholding on completion of buy out will be reduced So how does the proposal benefit St Mirren or SMISA and what do Kibble really get for their cash ?
  36. 8 points
    Doakes

    Welcome Siefedin Chabbi

    If Durmus is anything to go by - we should be sending Gus on an extended holiday to Turkey
  37. 8 points
    And as a supplementary question... Would those same benefits be available under a "trading partnership" without a shareholding? If not, why?
  38. 8 points
    The problem with LPM is that his reasonable points are wrapped up in a sea of unproven conspiracy theory mud slinging and posts full of incoherent screeching. Someone else needs to calmly break down the risks here in a coherently stuctured and evidence-based manner because nobody is going to listen seriously to this absolute spangle.
  39. 8 points
    I hold no axe against GLS. Nor am I particularly beholden to him for parking some of his (company's) money with the club. There were, are plenty of assets there to return his funds if things went wrong. Nor am I angry with him over his stewardship of the club to date. Neither do I grudge him getting his money back at the planned date or sooner. These are, in my opinion, red herrings which distort calm and objective scrutiny of the proposals. My only other contribution so far has been to suggest that whether legally (that should be a given) or not that a straight majority would suffice it would be both good practice and in the interests of transparency to hold an EGM and require 75% to vote in favour. If it is a great proposition then what would it's supporters and proponents have to fear!?
  40. 8 points
    It's where you make the point about Scott putting in £hundreds of thousands. Who cares? Why should Scott be given greater consideration in getting his money back than the thousand or so fans who dug deep and who will never see a penny of their cash back even if the deal was mis-sold? Why should Scott be unquestioned on the deals he does to get his money back out? How many parts of the club should he be able to sell off in order to recover his money? Why even make the point where there are ordinary football fans out there who don't drive Aston Martins who stretched themselves to pay in £2500 up front, or £12 per month without ever getting the level of access to the club and to Scottish Football that Scott bought for himself. The deal warrants close scrutiny. Not platitudes and compliments.
  41. 8 points
    Too many people on here are far to quick to disregard everything he says, As The Boy Who Cried Wolf. One day that's going to bite you in the arse
  42. 8 points
    BuddieinEK

    Kibble/SMiSA Partnership

    Maybe so... But my Motherwell supporting pal was asking me all about it believing it to be agreed going by press reports. The press coverage and photos are hardly impartial... They are leading and manipulative, aimed at selling the deal before SMISA members have even had the chance to discuss it. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
  43. 8 points
    Cornwall_Saint

    Welcome Alex Jakubiak

    Yawn. Add up the league goal tallies of any other two players in this team. No matter who you combine, no couple matches Obika’s tally of 5. He might not set the heather alight, but this onslaught on him is just f**king ridiculous.
  44. 8 points
    Kombibuddie

    Kibble/SMiSA Partnership

    SMISA will have the funds available in 2023 (3 years away) if their projections (based on membership subscriptions at last years SMISA AGM). As we've been told repeatedly over the past 12 months, there has been no significant drop off in SMISA members. Therefore, with 1250 (or thereabouts) members, SMISA will be able to realise the buyout just short of 4 years ahead of schedule. Whilst I agree, 51% or 71% makes no great difference in terms of who has the controlling stake in St Mirren FC, I believed the purpose of BTB was to safeguard the club by bringing it into fan ownership. With SMISA members, we are virtually guaranteed St Mirren supporters will form the Club BOD. With 2 representatives from Kibble on the BOD, there is no guarantee of that. Even when vetted by SMISA, I doubt Kibble will have an obligation to have St Mirren fans as their reps on the board. The waters darken. For me, it's simple, lets keep going for the next 3 years or so under the current arrangement. When SMISA has the finances to buy out GLS' shares, buy him out. Don't mess about, get it done and get a SMISA appointed BOD in place. There will be no need for Kibble representation on the BoD and there will be more representation from the fans. Once owned by the fans, The new St Mirren Board can work collaboratively with Kibble for the benefit of both organisations without having to compromise their % of ownership. I bought into BTB, not a revised BTB that brings in a 3rd party.
  45. 8 points
    pod

    Nice one Tony

    https://www.stmirren.com/all-news/3468-family-stand-to-be-renamed-the-tony-fitzpatrick-family-stand Please no spoilers about the OF.
  46. 8 points
    DougJamie

    Speculation Thread

    Any chance you could value my house , and I can retire early
  47. 8 points
    Ayrshire Saints

    Paul McGinn

    Remind me when did Paul McGinn morph into Andy Robertson. I must have been watching a different player. Steady yes but not irreplaceable.
  48. 8 points
    Magic Monkey

    Speculation Thread

    Benefits of being ITK.
  49. 8 points
    Hard to say happy with any defeat but we never defended poorly as a unit. Coming away from ibrox and keeping the goal difference down is fair enough. I'd have been concerned if Rangers had besieged us and we had led a charmed life but we were quite defensively comfortable for the most part. We're a stuffy side and I'm OK with that this season. I can only compare to the numerous times we went to Ibrox and Parkhead last season and were 4-0 down in 20 minutes. That doesn't look like happening so often any more.
  50. 8 points
    It’s a shame for the Broxburn keeper that Sportscene never showed any of his saves. He deserved that given his performance. Poor show once again from BBC Scotland.
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