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  1. 19 points
    Kemp

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Gus MacPherson took one of the worst St Mirren teams ever - the John Coughlin duds - that was bound for the third tier, won the league, and established us in the top tier. He was just about the longest-serving manager in Scotland by the time he left. I think he deserves a bit more respect than he is getting on this thread, he was a tremendous servant to the club.
  2. 15 points
    Isle Of Bute Saint

    First Sell Out Crowd?

    Only read the opening thread. If a fan was stuck and I'm not using the season ticket why not ? Have sent it out by post a few good times over the years and it's always been sent back. Same with a lift in the car if I'm going and a fan is stuck for a lift why not ? Saints fans are family we are a family club.
  3. 12 points
    norman

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Gus was a great manager for St Mirren, one of the best. Took us from relegation battlers in the first division to an established Premiership team and made us contenders in the cups for the first time since the 80s. The fact he didn't give a f**k what a few whinging cunts in our support thought of him and treated them with the utter disdain they deserved was also a massive bonus. All that of course would only be relevant if he was coming in as a manager, but he's not.
  4. 12 points
    djchapsticks

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Christ, you'd think we were bringing on Ross Tokely by some of the reactions. Jimmy Nicholl would be my preference if a fresh pair of eyes are coming in but MacPherson is well respected and although his teams were exceptionally boring at times, he did a good job for us overall. I'm not at all worried about this. If there is one concern - it would be the same as with any DoF type role in that the person in the role undermines the new manager. This must not be allowed to happen and OK must have the final say over his team.
  5. 11 points
    Kemp

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    As you will see from Gordon Scott's quotes the primary problem they are trying to solve here is that of recruitment. GS mentions Stubbs "having to rely on other people" to know if players are good enough - something that clearly went wrong and lead to the change of manager. I had actually just posted this on another thread, we need to make sure we are not left vulnerable by managerial changes again and end up with these terrible Craig / Rae / Stubbs transfer windows. I'd imagine therefore the primary brief would be to build a network of contacts across the UK and Ireland and a database of players that we realistically could make a move for once we have a position to fill or once we see them as a sound investment. I would also imagine as this is a full time paid position there would be an expectation for players aged between 16 and 23 to be scouted who we could generate transfer fees from, i.e the TD role pays for itself over time. Possibly it also includes video analysis work and monitoring our normal opponents as well. There is so much information available now that it is too big a task for one person to manage themselves. I think these are both areas we need to invest in and as the role requires someone who will stick with it long term Gus could be a very good shout indeed.
  6. 9 points
    pozbaird

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Quick question. From what we know, does Oran Kearney strike anyone as being a fool? An idiot? Second question. Does he come across as the kind of guy who, when his nose might have been put out of joint at missing out to Stubbs first time around, is likely to up sticks with family in tow, but now having got a full time crack at management, will sheepishly allow Gus MacPherson / Jimmy Nichol / A.N. Other to be the organ grinder while he is merely the dancing monkey? Some of the shite posted on here. Honestly. I should know too, I don’t half post some shite myself, but come to grips.
  7. 9 points
    JJ McG

    Anton Ferdinand

    Im not writing him off just yet mate, he looked very good against killie in the league cup, the new manager might get the best out of him.
  8. 9 points
    Magic Monkey

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    I certainly hope he doesn't go signing any more duds such as Michael Higdon, the young John Sutton, Charlie Adam, or this absolute waster: If this happens I'd buy a season ticket just so I could throw it at the BoD.
  9. 7 points
    Kemp

    Anton Ferdinand

    He has been offered a deal, ball is in his court now.
  10. 7 points
    Hambud

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    It actually beggers belief how people just remember the negatives. I remember Fergie saying that st mirren fans had a chip on their shoulders. I thought that was incredibly unfair but this thread makes me wonder. For the reason that he polarises opinion so greatly I don't think it would be fair on OK to bring him in though I do feel he would probably do a good job as he has done in the past.
  11. 7 points
    djchapsticks

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    I find it a bit rich that folk will use a guys philosophy from 10 years ago as a stick to beat him with. I can safely say I have changed in both outlook and behaviour in a decade, isn't it possible that Gus has as well? He's been in charge at Queen's Park for a few years now and they deal almost exclusively in youth players. Any shortcomings (and they were shortcomings) in his philosophy about youth players may well not be there anymore as he's been forced to change his mindset. I'd still rather have Jimmy Nicholl though.
  12. 7 points
    BuddieinEK

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Aye "some". Plenty are no doubt willing to accept the decision and give the new model a chance. Maybe, like me, they cannae be arsed getting into petty squabbles with people who have clearly made their minds up regardless of what has happened since then or what the new role involves!
  13. 7 points
    pozbaird

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Just my opinion, but I don’t see why Gus returning should engender feelings of unbridled joy, or deep despair. If GLS and Tony think he’s the experienced hard-nosed guy ideal for the role they have in mind - fine by me. Having met Gus a couple of times, I liked him. Maybe Oran & Gus could be the ‘good cop, bad cop’ team. I don’t know...but GLS and Fitzy know just how badly Stubbs conducted his business, so having moved quickly to bag the Scouse dud, are now moving quickly to assist Oran. One of the best things I’ve ever read on here - if Gus comes in, I’m out. Aye, right ye’ are... on your way out, take Brasso and a duster to Gus’ three pieces of silverware.
  14. 7 points
    pozbaird

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Gus. So hard he can shit bottles.
  15. 6 points
    Too many fannies have it in for Gus. Mainly for imaginary reasons. I therefore don’t think he should come back. I also don’t think a club of our size needs such a role.
  16. 6 points
    pozbaird

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Maybe a Queens Park director went into Gus’ office yesterday and said ‘guess what, we’ve just sold the stadium’, and Gus thought ‘fcuk sake, not again’.
  17. 6 points
    Knightswoodsaint

    Anton Ferdinand

    For me none of our centre half pairings have looked good or comfortable so I don’t see why Cole is being singled out what in my opinion any of the 3 need is to be paired with an experienced central defender in games. Cole is only 22 Baird is only 22 Jones is still only 20 for me none of the 3 are natural leaders on the park at centre half Gary Mac could be the answer when he is back fit or for now Ferdinand if he signs and clearly OK knows this as he is looking for another CH
  18. 6 points
    BuddieinEK

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Bye bye.
  19. 6 points
    TPAFKA Jersey 2

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Don’t know if I’m missing something, but I feel dead against this. I want OK to run the club without interference from anyone, let alone someone who was previously our manager. Just feels all wrong to me. Time will tell.
  20. 6 points
    Big Yards

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Keep Gus away from our club.
  21. 6 points
    I guess he directs in a kinda technical-type manner.
  22. 5 points
    Mykey

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    I would prefer not to have Gus back at the club, but it's not my choice. I am happy with OKs appointment.
  23. 5 points
    Robbie

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Late to the party here.. contentious as it might be, not sure how. R McPherson would be qualified for such a role. He’s hardly been deeply involved in football at the highest level since he left us. We have Mr Fitzpatrick doing a job he is clearly unqualified for. Now we will add to that network Mr McPherson doing a job that he is likely unqualified for (given we don’t yet know the actual job spec). Does not sound like a great plan. Before the barrage of criticism that follows, I idolised Tony Fitzpatrick as a boy. He was an idol (at least until Archibald and Stickroth came along). Even encouraged my dad to take me to see him play for Bristol C when he moved. He’s a great ambassador for the club, bleeds black and white like we do.. but he IS in the wrong job. I’d be fearful that Mr McPherson might just be exactly the same, an old friend in a job, taking a salary but not adding any real value.. Still we can bump up the price of Buddievision to cover the cost..
  24. 5 points
    So Kenny McLean personally told you this? The fact is that, in the last 6 months of Gus’ reign as manager, Kenny McLean went on loan at Arbroath and spent most of the time on the bench. He was just a kid at the time and clearly not get ready for first team football. We’ll never know what would have happened had Gus remained manager. What we do know for sure is that not a single youth player who Gus allegedly ignored ever went on to make it with another club. And we also know that Stephen McGinn established himself as a first team regular under Gus. As did David Barron. He also made a teenage Charlie Adam a regular in our First Division winning side. Connor Ramsay also became the youngest player ever to play for St Mirren in the top flight when Gus gave him his debut. If they were good enough then Gus played them.
  25. 5 points
    gc_SMFC

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Gus was pretty good with youth. You saw guys like Lappin, Van Zanten, Barron, Sutton, Adam, Broadfoot and Stephen McGinn all play regularly and clearly develop their game while with us. All while getting us promoted and keeping us in the league. I thought Gus was brilliant, his football was effective for what the expectations were. Was he able to take us to the 'next level' and play a different style of football, of course not. He played to his teams strengths and didn't force a style that the players were unable to play. He played a major part in overhauling our infrastructure, from the days of training in the park to having a training facility of our own. If Kearney likes him and they build a good working relationship, I think it's a really positive step by the club.
  26. 5 points
    buddies1877

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    What was so bad before? He gave even guys like Craig Malloy. David McKenna, John Baird and ryan mcccay a fair good crack at it ultimately they weren’t good enough and never went on to do better. Yet look at Danny Lennon others see him the complete opposite was fully behind youth didn’t Paul mcginn and Craig slater leave under his watch because they weren’t given an opportunity and they both went on to do better.
  27. 5 points
    spankin_panda

    Anton Ferdinand

    I have also been looking at this one for an update all day mate..... Hard to read through threads when most posts are petty point scoring lol
  28. 5 points
    helpmaboab

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Good, what ya gawn tae watch. Carry On Talkin Shite?
  29. 5 points
    The end product of Gus' tenure was that we had gone from a crap Championship side to our 5th straight season in the SPL. Alongside that our first League Cup final since the 50s, and a first Scottish Cup semi since 1987. He definitely left us in a better place than when he joined. That requires a decent manager.
  30. 5 points
    faraway saint

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    While I'm not bothered one way or the other I would think Gus wouldn't see himself as 2nd to anybody and that could cause issues. He's been a manager too long, IMO, to become a bit of a nothing, more so in a club where he was the manager. It is amusing to see the meltdowns right enough.
  31. 5 points
    munoz

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    This reeks of jobs for the boys if true. No thanks , not for me.
  32. 5 points
    faraway saint

    Anton Ferdinand

    They've got you on ignore.
  33. 4 points
    faraway saint

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    12 pages. Exactly as was predicted when Gus was being mentioned as a possible replacement manager, divides the support, and would have been a dangerous gamble. IF he's brought in as some sort of adviser I see it being a waste of money and the level of criticism/abuse he's receiving here will only increase, and aimed towards the club. Overall I'd bin the idea, not worth the hassle IMO. I fully recognise what he achieved, best to leave it at that.
  34. 4 points
    Hambud

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    I guess different people look for different things in football. Beating Rangers in their final visit to Love street, cup semi's, cup finals, pumping celtic, winning at Tynecastle, great home record against Hibs, regularly beating motherwell had all become boring.
  35. 4 points
    Stu

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    The size of Adam's arse and the fact he was usually breathing out of it after half an hour may have had something to do with that. Agree with the general sentiment but Mooy was a Lennon signing.
  36. 4 points
    Drew

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Meanwhile, you're a horse's arse.
  37. 4 points
  38. 4 points
    Wendy Saintss

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Gus lost friends and alienated people by taking us from a third battle against relegation to the third tier to an established top flight club, reaching cup finals and semi finals and beating the Old Firm for the first time in a generation. The thoughts of a dickhead.
  39. 4 points
    Callum Gilhooley

    First Sell Out Crowd?

    My mate, Seamus Padraig Ciaran O`flaherty managed to get his ok.
  40. 4 points
    santaponsasaint

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    I think it's a good move. His experience and his eye for a decent player will be a great help to OK and the club. Can't do worse in recruitment than we've had with Stubbs. Welcome back Gus.
  41. 4 points
    billyg

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Yes , that quote sums him up , you could even call him Stubbs like in his attitude towards the club. Obviously Scott will bring him in if he wants to , but I will never support him , he's burnt allhis bridges !
  42. 4 points
    Magic Monkey

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Siri, show me what a broken record sounds like...
  43. 4 points
    Ayrshire Saints

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Unbelievable amount of gum bumping when absolutely no one knows the role he has been brought in to fulfil. DoF could mean anything but it generally does not involve any day-to-day coaching or interference in team selection or tactics. It's very much a back office roll and as such I'm not seeing what relevance his previous tenure as manager has to his current role. I was never a big Gus fan however I don't see a problem in having an ex manager back in a totally different roll especially when we have a new manager in place. Ian Maxwell wasn't the greatest player in the world but he has done really well in a backroom career which has seen him rise to the very top of that sphere in this country. No reason why Gus couldn't do similar albeit maybe in a slightly different context.
  44. 4 points
    Maboza

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    I think that's more about the support than about Gus to be honest. If Gus is the man for the TD job then he needs a clean slate. He is experienced, a strong character and knows the league. The concept of this role - to provide continuity between managers, support recruitment activities and act as sounding board for a young Oran Kearney - is a good idea in my opinion. We're at a crossroads here after the quick failure of the Stubbs reign. The fans have to acknowledge that as much as a Chairman can fail with an appointment, a manager can fail with results/performances - we need to realise that the support can also contribute to failure by setting a negative tone that spreads throughout the club. We were (mostly) all very positive about the OK appointment so now is not the time for an about turn.
  45. 4 points
    bazil85

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Are we hiring him in a management role? No To judge him on his past for a new position is not fair and ridiculous. Fowler didn't set the world on fire as a manager - solid assistant Cathro same - Great coach Gary Mccalister - Great coach Many more examples of former managers having good careers in the game in different roles. Do you know for a fact he can't do the job of technical director before we know fully what the job will involve or are you basing it on a completely different role? Do you know this isn't something with OK blessing/ request? Give the guy a chance.
  46. 4 points
    madball

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    I think we definitely need someone in that type of role if we have aspirations to be more than makeweights in the league. When we do well we will lose good players and staff to better teams, this appointment will implement a philosophy at club level about what we want from the coaching staff and will help ensure continuity. On the playing front it should help bring in players that can work in the setup we play under, and ensure that talent is spotted within our budgets. In the interim it will help OK adjust and understand the game in Scotland. With regards to Gus, I'm ambivalent either way. Yes he left under a cloud due to cup final and negative way of playing, but his remit under board was to avoid relegation and budgets cut under him regularly. However, feedback from Queens Park supporters I know is pretty positive for his wider role in their club. He's stable and reliable without being prone to jumping between extremes.
  47. 4 points
    Drew

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Aye, we have been (nearly) united for 4 or 5 days. I suppose it was very optimistic to expect it to continue beyond that. It will be interesting to hear a bit more about what this role consists of, and what GMac has to say about it should he be appointed.
  48. 4 points
    pozbaird

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Last night I watched a superb Los Angeles Rams side administer a gubbing to Jon Gruden’s Oakland Raiders. The Rams head coach is 31 year old Sean McVay. One of his main assistants is 71 year old defensive co-ordinator Wade Phillips. A guy who has been in the game for fifty years and has had head coaching jobs himself. However, this is very much Sean McVay’s team, and he is a smart cookie...with experience around him. So, to summarise, it’ll be Oran’s team, but Gus will be handy for advice on third downs and spreading the field in red zone situations. I’m all over this.
  49. 4 points
    billyg

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    I'm with you all the way , Gus is deadwood , and history !
  50. 4 points
    pozbaird

    Welcome back, Gus MacPherson.

    Aye, but with the transfer window system, unless it's some waifs and strays free agents, not much recruiting going on. If it's a full-time position, buggered if I know what he would be doing every day, bar playing Wee Angry Birds on his PC.
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