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  1. 6 points
    Great news. I'm glad the board have more sense than some who post on here. Accepting without question the absolutely stupid punishment would have been shocking.
  2. 6 points
    At least we are doing something, might not lead to anything ,might give us back those games and a chance to lose the points fairly 😂
  3. 5 points
    Good on them, beyond doubt the correct decision to appeal. Even if we put aside the harshness of the punishment, we can still see a complete lack of consistency and fairness in dishing out said punishment.
  4. 4 points
    Tommy

    Club covid executives - a statement.

    I wonder what the punishment would have been if both us and Killie were to play each other, and neither of us had enough player to play the game
  5. 4 points
    I'd be happier about us paying the £40k fine now and having a suspended penalty of points deduction if we breach protocol. Killie would have missed more games had it not been for the timing of the international break and league cup games... they also had to lockdown but only missed 1 league game. The rules are changing as the season goes on. The Hibs game went ahead because at that point there was no ruling that you had to have at least 1 fit goalie among 13 fit players. A few weeks after forcing us to play Hibs with a keeper who only just signed in time to appear on the team sheet! Since we were investigated DUFC and Celtic have broken protocol for team photos and the SFA have been pulled up by UEFA over Scotland U21 breaches.
  6. 4 points
    Slarti

    Club covid executives - a statement.

    I would assume that the legal advice would include the facts that there is no way of knowing if the rule breaking contributed to the spread, no way of applying a probability to it and therefore no way of knowing whether the postponements were in any way related to the rule breaking. Assumptions are not proof and "likelihoods" need to be demonstrated, not just guessed at. The fine is justified (for the rule breaking), the forfeits are not. Also, the 3-0 awards punish other teams that have not been accused of anything. This legal stuff is piss easy. [emoji38]
  7. 4 points
    I'm glad we are appealing. The whole thing has been a sham at worse, and very inconsistent at best.
  8. 3 points
    Tommy

    Club covid executives - a statement.

    Maybe both us and Killie get 3 points for a 3-0 win
  9. 3 points
    Whilst I have accepted that we have been at fault in the way that we handled the protocols that theoretically were set out, I also think that we have been treated exceedingly harshly. Jack Ross's interview was a fairly good external view of the position and if I was remotely involved with either Killie or Saints on this issue, I would say appeal and make sure you have good legal advice to back up your arguments. I don't fear additional retribution, that would be vindictive in the extreme, but the SPFL make up their rules as they go along and they wouldn't have done this to the Glasgow twins, Aberdeen or Hibs, so gone on guys, give it your best legal challenge.
  10. 3 points
    By not fighting this we allow the SPFL to continually use as their whipping boys. The cost of not fighting this is potentially huge. Having read the SPFL case we need to throw other teams under the bus. Celtic, Dundee Utd, Rangers. In our visits to other clubs we will have seen any examples of failures of clubs to follow “The Protocols”. There is no proof that the failure of so called protocols resulted in players catching Covid. The medical and government approach is to speculate where you catch it.
  11. 3 points
    Sue Denim

    Coronavirus

    Oh dear Covid in Scotland: Second wave reignited by summer holidays https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-55246112 Prof Leitch said the report showed that the March lockdown, which lasted until the start of July, was successful in "all but eliminating" the virus. No, the lockdown did nothing but kill people and destroy the economy. The virus was “all but eliminated” because it was summer, coronaviruses are seasonal and we’d already more or less reached herd immunity. And as I’ve demonstrated using the ONS stats, there is no second wave. Its frightening that we have idiots like this advising our governments. Then again, it’s frightening that we have idiots like Sturgeon and Boris in charge of our governments.
  12. 3 points
    1959 was a good year to be a Buddy......... In these days you had to have a striped scarf which you never really see that much nowadays, also you had the wooden rattle which I was told at the time came from the days of the 1st World war trenches to warn of a gas attack, but some of them made a real noise.
  13. 2 points
    3 points to us since Killie wanted the game off and 3 points to them since we wanted the game off is surely fairer
  14. 2 points
    Wan and a half each obviously. So a point each, bingo.
  15. 2 points
    Surely they wouldn't appeal unless they had taken legal advice, but I guess the legal eagles on here will now better.
  16. 2 points
    JG says in B and W mag interview that a player caught it from his mother, who works as a carer. I await with interest the line of defence used in the appeal process and want a victory. However the Robust Defence stance taken in the case so far leaves me less than confident Good to see at least we are not going at this alone as Kilmarnock are to appeal also
  17. 2 points
    Whilst I agree with the sentiment I'm not sure the cost, the potential suspension of the players concerned and the immediate imposition of the suspended fine for having the temerity to question the ruling on top of the original punishment are worth the attempt to argue that we didn't royally make an arse of it in the first place.
  18. 2 points
    I wonder what made you an "idiot lunatic" or just a lunatic? Also you could just be an "idiot" or in the case of John White a school master aged 33 who was just "lunatic", or if he was driven mad by the place where he worked (no school names provided). Times were both cruel and unkind, given that Thomas McGonigle was just "deaf"!
  19. 2 points
    https://www.stmirren.com/club-news/3850-st-mirren-will-appeal-spfl-tribunal-decision
  20. 2 points
    The Poor house - Paisley Scotland
  21. 2 points
    I thought that as well. Great minds [emoji848] Was only in the RAI Craw Road annexe once for my 2 knees to be Xray. Was told then my professional career was over. Proved them wrong. [emoji6] Just thinking, that's at least two in my family that have Scottish winners medals. Me and my Great Great Granddad. [emoji16] http://www.anentscottishrunning.com/robert-mitchell/
  22. 2 points
    It’s only when you look at the Census records that it hits home the numbers housed in those conditions, http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Abbey/Abbey1881.shtml#Inmates2
  23. 2 points
    Is the map of the Sneddon poorhouse? Cos... I have the feeling that the building/s in the fotie was near the corner of CrawRoad/Calside? I recall that building being an annexe of the RAI and I went there for something... jabs... I think. Or to get a fracture plaster removed...? great map and fotie, though!
  24. 2 points
    faraway saint

    Sin Bin Betting Thread

    You should have checked, they had already won the group, happens on a regular basis. Schoolboy error.
  25. 2 points
    Like many other industrial towns of the time, Paisley had its workhouse. I'm sure life must have been pretty grim inside, but a by-product of an industrial working community.
  26. 2 points
    A really interesting picture online from 1897 which I'm not going to load up onto this page due to copyright issues, but you can view it at: https://www.francisfrith.com/paisley/paisley-the-abbey-1897_39807 I can't ever recall seeing any picture like this before and it really sets out how the building looked before it was altered to today's current architectural form. If you then scroll through the pictures that follow this one, all from the same era, there are some great turn of the century pictures from the same source, all worth seeing.
  27. 2 points
  28. 2 points
    pod

    Club covid executives - a statement.

    He's not alone ;Kilmarnock manager Alex Dyer says SPFL Covid punishments don't 'make sense' - Not The Old Firm
  29. 1 point
    Lawyers will get paid regardless of the outcome. 💰
  30. 1 point
    Cookie Monster

    Black Lives Matter

    So he made himself out to be a liar and/or a hypocrite by his own rationale. [emoji848]
  31. 1 point
    Regarding proof. In a criminal case where it generally has to be "established beyond a reasonable doubt," in a civil case it is judged to a lower standard of proof such as "the preponderance of the evidence." [emoji106] Here endeth today's lesson. [emoji6]
  32. 1 point
    faraway saint

    The Vaccine

    I'd hope having the vaccine would ensure easy access to most countries. If you don't have it, feck right off, we don't need any diseased fannies spoiling things.
  33. 1 point
    Cookie Monster

    The Vaccine

    Hopefully being vaccinated will allow entry without isolation into Australia. [emoji106] Think that might be far enough away from someone's singing. [emoji848]
  34. 1 point
    I agree. The bit in bold is not directed at you BTW. 😉 The emoji is the hint.
  35. 1 point
    The protocols may be bonkers but SMFC signed up to them !
  36. 1 point
    shull

    Global Fascist State

    Mmmmm https://www.bitchute.com/video/OoeARsemjPPA/
  37. 1 point
    Thompson will forever be a Saints' legend but Monty or Faldo would be akin to Parkinson compared to Thommo. Having watched him front Sportscene I think you'd have to guarantee the interviewee a bucket of Pro Plus to get them through a round with Stevie.
  38. 1 point
    faraway saint

    Coronavirus

    You're not very good at sums, Sweden has 7,926 deaths, Finland 433 and Norway 361. Now, if you multiply Finland and Norway by 50 that comes to 21,650 and 18,050 respectively. They are also 19th in Europe using infections per million of population. If your going to come in, guns a blazing, you might be better to check before making an arse of yourself.
  39. 1 point
    pod

    Big Boris, Our Prime Minister

    Old news. Besides, it was only a hint.
  40. 1 point
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ruth-davidson-resign-brexit-deal-northern-ireland-special-trading-terms-eu-a8583536.html I wonder when Baroness Davidson will hand in her resignation. [emoji23]
  41. 1 point
    Hopefully the appeal will be "Robust"
  42. 1 point
    Yflab

    Club covid executives - a statement.

    My main concern over an appeal is additional punishments handed out to individual players who were found to be car sharing and more legal costs. I hope though for a positive outcome.
  43. 1 point
    Cookie Monster

    Coronavirus

    'The wealthy to pay for coronavirus' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55236851 Bud the Baker will be doing [emoji2223][emoji2223][emoji2223][emoji2223][emoji2223]
  44. 1 point
    Cookie Monster

    Global Fascist State

    I know they can perform miracles at times, but there is no hope for that one. [emoji6]
  45. 1 point
    I am not surprised people are happy to live in Paisley, airport on your doorstep, 12 minutes on train to Glasgow, 25 minutes to Loch Lomond, 35 minutes to largs. See how quickly you can get far away from Paisley 😂
  46. 1 point
    Jimmy H and I considering coming out of retirement for Austria in September.
  47. 1 point
    Its not that simple. I, for one, think we've been harshly treated. We deserved to be punished for breaking the rules, but the punishment was too severe. And because we broke those rules in the way we did, even after the goalkeeper fiasco, heads SHOULD roll. (Could be players, coaching OR admin staff) I think TF is a really nice guy - Saints through and through. But is he a good CEO? Events at SMFC would appear to suggest not.
  48. 1 point
    Ayrshire Saints

    Coronavirus

    WAN of those days
  49. 1 point
    Bud the Baker

    Big Boris, Our Prime Minister

    After getting his party to re-insert the controversial sections of the Internal Markets Bill last night today BJ has accepted they will be dropped today - if we didn't already have a Grand Old Duke of York he'd be a shoo-in for the job.
  50. 1 point
    It's a crock of shit and the club should fight this in the Courts if need be, how many clubs have broke these protocols, Players sitting having meals together, Sitting too close on the bus, Car sharing, I'll tell you.... ALL OF THEM.... SMISA get the cash out, It would never happen to Celtic or Rangers with a title on the line and everyone knows that, So it shouldn't happen to us. A skelp on the arse and a suspended large fine for anymore breaches that's what it should have been, 😠
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