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  1. So will you be continuing your smisa subscription without questioning the running of the club? Surely it’s not too much too announce departures of key staff? They have been removed from the official club directory without any news on social media to even acknowledge the change or thank them for there service. The club is now majority owned by regular monthly contributions made over many years by fans like me and I assume you. The club seem happy to announce these appointments with great fanfare. Michelle Evans as Head of Well Being and Ali De Foy as Head of Brand and Marketing, but absolutely nothing when they leave. That’s not right in my opinion.
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  2. Bullshit. How many times do you have to be told you are wrong? Chelsea and rangers agreed compensation and sell ones and appearance add ons when he was 15. 🤦‍♂️
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  3. Bazil you are talking shite. You have offered no factual counter evidence from FIFA to argue you case. You are a 🤡. Rangers agreed a fee with Chelsea when Gilmour was 15. Gilmour was then free to talk to Chelsea and agreed his terms. The clubs then agreed that he would leave in the summer when he was 16. There is plenty of evidence to back up exactly what I have said here. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/10870337/billy-gilmour-completes-move-to-chelsea-from-rangers“Chelsea have signed Rangers' highly-rated 15-year-old midfielder Billy Gilmour, who has come through the Scottish club's academy system.” https://www.espn.co.uk/football/soccer-transfers/story/3019319/chelsea-closing-in-on-rangers-teenager-billy-gilmour-sources “Chelsea are set to beat a host of Europe's top clubs to the signing of Rangers youngster Billy Gilmour, sources from both clubs have told ESPN FC.Scotland under-16 midfielder Gilmour is regarded as one of the best youth talents in Europe after impressing for club and country in the last 12 months.Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal, Barcelona and Bayern Munich have all been credited with an interest in Gilmour after sending scouts to watch the 15-year-old in action. Sources have told ESPN FC that Gilmour spent last weekend in London for talks at Chelsea and to have a look around the club's facilities as the Premier League leaders look to bring the the player to Stamford Bridge.Gilmour is under contract at Rangers until the end of the season, but Chelsea have offered the Scottish club £500,000 to sign the player now rather than wait until he is 16 and try and land him on a compensation fee.”
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  4. You have offered no supporting evidence from the FIFA regulations. I’m not lashing out. That’s your standard go to when you are losing an arguement. No one can have a debate with you are your arguments do stand up. I’ve asked you to supply evidence from the FIFA directives backing up your opinion. I even submitted the links. Do some research on FIFA website and show where you you are getting these compensation (not transfer) tribunals and sell on percentages. So it’s down to my personality as to whether I’m allowed to ask you a question on whether you still live with your mum. FFS 🤦‍♂️ It’s a simple enough question. Does she take in lodgers? Given your redundancy from St Mirren PR department then rent money from her boy will soon run out. I’d fancy having this debate in question over the breakfast table. I hope she does a good fry up. 🍳 🥓 ☕️ Just on weekends mind.
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  5. @bazil85 I’ve just spoken to Jim Gillespie (Director responsible for Academy) and Keith Lasley (COO) and they both say you are talking 💩 💩 💩. They have said to me that the are wanting nothing more to do with you and your PR duties on B&W army. Nothing will formally be announced by the club as they never did so with Head of Well being & Head of Ticket Office.
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  7. It, seems so. I heard that several coaches have now left the academy and the ticket office manager has also quietly 'left’.
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  8. Ok Bazil. I personally don’t think Dylan Reid is going to sign a new contract. I think he will leave us at the end of this season (unless he goes before and the club can insert a sell on agreement). Let’s say I’m right. Dylan’s birthday is in March so he will be 18 once his current contract expires. Given all the evidence I have provided on FIFA solidarity payments I believe that the compensation due will work at follows- Solidarity payments are where the new club where he signs after he leaves us is to distribute 5% of this compensatory amount to all the clubs where this player has played between the age of 12 and 23. This distribution of monies is meant as a solidarity contribution to the clubs involved in the training and education of the player. When a professional moves during the course of a contract, 5% of any compensation, with the exception of Training Compensation, paid to his Former Club shall be deducted from the total amount of this compensation and distributed by the New Club as a solidarity contribution to the club(s) involved in his training and education over the years (calculated pro rata if less than one year) he was registered with the relevant club(s) between the Seasons of his 12th and 23rd birthdays, as follows: • Season of 12th birthday: 5% • Season of 13th birthday: 5% • Season of 14th birthday: 5% • Season of 15th birthday: 5% • Season of 16th birthday: 10% • Season of 17th birthday: 10% • Season of 18h birthday: 10% • Season of 19th birthday: 10% • Season of 20th birthday: 10% • Season of 21st birthday: 10% • Season of 22nd birthday: 10% • Season of 23rd birthday: 10% • Total = 100% Only England, France, Germany, Holland, Spain and Italy have Category One clubs. The table below from FIFA is from 2019. It’s probably gone up now, but I can’t find it. https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/17224a13a232cbcc/original/qcbskojvmdcvhcysjzfl-pdf.pdf I don’t know whether St Mirren are a category 2 or 3 club. Maybe you can tell us? if Saints are Category trained by a UEFA category 2 club for the years 12 until 18, and signs after expiry of his current contract the training compensation will be calculated like this: 12th until 18th birthday: 6 X EUR 30,000 (category 3) = EUR 180,000 circa £150,000 Or 12th until 18th birthday: 6 X EUR 60,000 (category 2) = EUR 360,000 circa £300,000 Now I believe we must be category 3 and chose to negotiate a compensation fee of £125,000 plus 30% future sell on fee with Celtic as that is much closer to the FIFA compensation fee due at end of his contract. It is imperative that St Mirren offer him a new contract 60days before his current one expires to get the solidarity payment.
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  9. Like Ericksen leaving Brentford after a successful year to join mighty Man U, we might expect Allan arriving in Paisley in 2023…
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  10. A healthy player of his ability with no underlying health problems wouldn't be signing for Arbroath. I have no disrespect intended towards Arbroath or Scott Allan when I say that. I wish him all the best and hope he can get back to playing well.
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  11. antrin

    Jerry Sadowich

    When I was younger, I had fulfilling relationships with several - rather fetching - bin lids…
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  12. Percy Veer

    Jerry Sadowich

    As you say "each to their own". I take the attitude that everything in life is subjective, which is why I don't say another person's taste in art, books, films, music, television and potential partners is rubbish or slag them off for their personal tastes. I don't like rap music, one of my neighbours does but I'd never tell him it's rubbish and compare it to someone banging a bin lid.
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  13. Why then would St Mirren let Dylan Reid talk to Celtic if clubs agreed a compensation fee plus 30% sell on of future transfers if you say that he is worth more when he is out of contract? I’m sorry your logic is fcuked. There is nothing in the FIFA solidarity mechanism that states a 30% sell on fee as part of development. https://www.easportslaw.com/news/training-compensation-and-solidarity-mechanism https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/41c272bcbc3b19df/original/c83ynehmkp62h5vgwg9g-pdf.pdf There’s my evidence where is yours?
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  14. Gilmour was under contract at aged 15 when Chelsea sign him. It was a transfer fee that Rangers were able to negotiate a sell on % and add ons for appearances etc. If your argument stacks up that then when we “developed” for a short time Ross Stewart how much did we receive via Ross County when he was sold to Sunderland? John McGinn contract situation is not as clear cut as you state. There was an agreement that Stewart Gilmour negotiated with Hibs for 30% of any future transfer fees. Hibs negotiated with Villa a 15% sell on fee of which we receive 30% plus a development kick back. Mcginn signed a 4 year deal with Hibs in July 2015 after both clubs agreed compensation. Surely there is no way that Hibs would relinquish 30% of any future fee with St Mirren if he was a free agent? So how many other players have we released that we are due 30% sell on. I’ve never seen that in FIFA solidarity scheme. Please show me.
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  15. Slarti

    Knife Crime

    And it would have fed the fish. A win win.
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  16. This sounds promising. The only things I heard the club doing is with the charity organisation of the club which receive grants and funding. I know they do a great Christmas lunch for OAPs and others. Haven’t heard much else so keen to know more. The only serious moves I used to do in Paisley was at Toledo Junction. Is that still going?
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  17. But you don’t answer the questions I posed to you? I believe that you and I as shareholders are entitled to know when key staff leave the club (resign or redundant). There should be no legal issue with a simple two liner. “Michelle Evans has left the club today. We thank her for her service.” You and I shareholders as members of smisa. Are you not?
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  18. A strange move for Scott Allan but I suspect he was a bit too much of a gamble for a full time club to take on. I personally would have welcomed him to Saints but his medical history probably played a large part in where he's ended up. No offence to Arbroath but this smacks of last resort for a player of Allan's doubtless ability.
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  19. I'd take that. Unfortunately I won't be able to go to Tannadice for the match. After being up at Pittodrie, another away match so soon won't be popular with my other half so I'll have to settle for checking updates on t'internet.
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  20. Percy Veer

    Jerry Sadowich

    I don't find Dawn French funny but fancy her a bit. Does that make me a bad person?! She's actually a better actress in my opinion when playing non-comedy roles. I feel the same about her ex-husband Lenny Henry. I don't find him funny either but did see him in an episode of "Doctor Who" and a one-off drama which was part of a series of dramas about the "Windrush Generation" and he was good in those. So in summary, I don't find Dawn French or Lenny Henry funny but she is not bad looking.
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  21. Hey. AS. I am not saying that. I am saying that there is a lot to learn in terms of managing the expectations of both the owners and directors. Announcing departures and thanking people for their contribution is good practice and unless an agreement made precludes it, then do it.
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  23. Good luck to him!
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  24. Interesting move. Is it the right one? Time will tell. Good player.
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  25. Scott Allan 
Arbroath FC are thrilled to announce the signing of 30-year-old creative midfielder Scott Allan on a two-year deal. Scott is a naturally gifted footballer whose creativity, work-rate and personality have seen him become a fan favourite at every club he has played for and well known in the Scottish Top Flight Having joined Dundee United at just 10-years-old in 2001, it was Dick Campbell who took Scott on an emergency loan to Forfar Athletic in 2010, before Scott made the move down south signing for West Bromwich Albion. Not only has Scott played Club Football but represented his country at both U17 and U21 level. Scott returned to Scotland and signed for Hibernian in the 2014 season. Scott would go on to have three separate spells with Hibernian playing 129 games, scoring 17 goals and making 39 assists for the Hibees. In his first spell with Hibernian, Scott was named Scottish Championship’s PFA Player of the Year, with 17 assists, 2 goals and helping Hibernian finish second in the Championship. His outstanding season seen Celtic swoop for his signature and whilst at Parkhead, Scott also had lots at Rotherham United and Dundee before joining Hibernian again, this time on loan in 2018 before making the move permanent at the start of the 2019/20 season. Four goals and three assists in his first 7 games of the season, and Scott didn’t stop with two for Martin Boyle in the Boxing Day Edinburgh Derby at Tynecastle. As the pandemic hit, Scott had made 40 appearances and scored 10 goals in the 2019/2020 season. Having been diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes after joining Dundee United, Scott has never let it get in his way and is a proud ambassador for Diabetes UK. Last season Scott played 23 games for Hibernian, before departing Easter Road in the summer. We are absolutely thrilled to have such a gifted, experienced footballer join our Club, and with a work ethic which matches that of our own team, we are delighted to welcome Scott to Gayfield. 
Arbroath FC Chairman Mike Caird said “Having had offers from both North and South of the border Scott has decided his future lies at Gayfield and this is a signing that we hope will capture the imagination of our supporters and show a real sign of intent as a Club.
 We were keen to sign Scott on loan back in January, so I’m delighted we have been able to capture him now on a 2 year permanent deal to compliment our already experienced squad of talented players.” Scott will wear the Number 23 Shirt at Gayfield and If you would like to sponsor Scott's Home, Away or Third Kit for this season please email [email protected] it will be on a first come, first served basis. Give Scott a warm welcome to Gayfield and be there on Saturday - Tickets can be purchased here https://www.arbroathfc.co.uk/match-day-tickets/ Welcome to the Club Scott! C’mon the Lichties!
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  26. munoz

    Speculation Thread

    Glad he's found a club- far too talented to be without one. Hope he does well for them.
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  27. WHAT a signing by Arbroath......................
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  28. My first post and first game this season. Due to finances and work I rarely get a chance so staying with an old friend in Perth before and after the big match. reading this thread I'm wary, a wounded animal can be dangerous as I found out with a fox many years ago. I'd love us to win and see a few goals as I like my moneys worth.
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  29. Is it really sound logic to suggest he will get a ban for his blandfest?
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  30. Absolutely certain there's only one thing more certain and that is we all die.
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  31. They're playing shite. They're on a bad run. Their players are low on confidence. Their manager is under pressure. Their fans are unhappy. You can just see what's going to happen, can't you?
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  32. Despite the fact that he continually launches over long passes , I still find him hugely likeable .
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  33. Maybe it's time we prized Love over Gold, but we are overdue a communique from our brothers in arms. The could be making movies about this affair in the future and talking about it on every street. Anyway, isn't it time Kibble took a walk of life and disappeared up the tunnel of love (st).
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  34. I’ll get you one too . I SAID I’LL GET YOU ONE TOO !! 🙄😉 🧏‍♂️
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  35. Let’s just get one over the brilliantly monikered ASOS Ancelotti😂
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  36. A repeat would be very welcome.
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  37. We have won at Tannadice in each of the last two seasons, who could forget the famous 1-5 up there last year? Or Jay and Eamonn causing havoc earlier this year: Some of the football for those goals 😍 They are in shambles so we should be going for a similar scoreline IMO. 1-4
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  38. Great line, but for Mr “I played a good game once for Celtic and scored against Barca “ Watt to be criticising anyone for thinking they are better than they actually are is a bit rich 🙄😂
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  39. Of what I've seen of Utd this season, they look good going forward but suspect in defence. No reason why we shouldn't be looking to pick up something in this one.
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  40. Rascal

    Jerry Sadowich

    Membership of the Idiots Society is free and it is open to all. Members may be nominated by others. Heid Numpty is the name given to our esteemed leader Mr A.
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  41. Be fair Mr A - FS doesn’t claim to be brain of Britain or even the Forum - or does he? Back to the match. I am looking forward to it but expect us to meet a very “fired up” Dundee United team.
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  42. I wish I’d written that sentence… well… …perhaps without the SIX commas and random switch of subject to make it clear that United , not the “lost games” is what is shite. EG The recent 2 games that United lost have been gleefully seen as if United are suddenly shite. I hope this helps? Otherwise… fair comment.
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  43. W6er

    Jerry Sadowich

    FYI, @SuperSaints1877, you have now been placed on ignore! That's quite an accolade, as I have never resorted to that before on here. The final straw was the meltdown about my use of childhood leukaemia as a hyperbolic description of Dawn French's comic ability. It was obviously the saddest, most tragic thing I could think of...something not funny at all. So for you to invoke Tony Fitzpatrick's personal tragedy in order to maliciously portray me as some sort of obnoxious monster is pathetic, and says a lot about your vindictive and nasty mentality. I will not be reading or responding to anything you write on here from now on. Ever.
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  44. Unrest in their camp is fine by me.
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  45. I'm feeling hopeful that same performance will get a result. Whether that's 3 points I'm not sure. I fancy a draw here then home win against Hibs to give us a good lift.
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  46. Just like last season 9 team league trying to get top 6.. no idea... but if we play like Sat and Utd play like they have last 3 games we should win... just hope SR working on his strikers as we cant rely on 25 yarders every week. Yet to beat Ross so thats the incentive
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  47. Hearts have beaten United by 4 goals to one. United on 1 point and St Mirren on 3 ahead of Saturdays game. Looking forward to a tough match at Tannadice.
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  48. Always look forward to a game at Tannadice. Seldom easy to get points there but why not. Aberdeen and Airdrie apart, our performances have been good.
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  49. pod

    Welcome Charles Dunne

    Doing alright for himself now...... Founded by Managing Director Greig Denham, Moda Ceramics Limited is a Scottish, independent, privately owned tile specialist, created to source and supply innovative ceramic and porcelain tile solutions for architects, interior designers, hoteliers and house builders.
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