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23 hours ago, Warrior Saint said:
What about Main? Does a lot of hard graft but his job as a striker is to score goals, doest happen to often....
Main has been arguably one of our best players this season. If we had two free scoring forwards up front we would be challenging Rangers and Celtic.
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On 1/13/2023 at 5:06 PM, bazil85 said:
Surely this is double standards, if I’m taking the club at its statement, then you’re choosing to do the opposite & not believe it?
Some of the specifics.
Ralston - We have had Ralston for around 15 or more years. We have operated at break even since the original SMISA deal was put in place bar the last two years. That tells me we are more than capable of funding & maintain Ralston & that it is indeed, exceptional circumstances.
League position - your take is just pessimistic. We have games in hand over every club above us & are in a league position we haven’t secured for over 3 decades. What I said about this being a positive is absolutely true.
Attendance - there won’t be many getting freebies & I imagine most will be paying full price. There doesn’t appear to be strategy in place compared to previous seasons that would suggest a large number of people were there without having to pay.
Multiple sellable assets - no one is saying that’s how the business is being ran, it’s just fact that we have performers on the park of a level where outside interest comes in.
Manager - kind of does, better performing manager means more games won, more bums on seat, more league placement money. Again, it’s a positive.
The loss - it is disappointing but it’s actually quite common for clubs our size. Before this season, we were possibly the only comparable club that hadn’t had a six figure loss over the last 5-7 seasons.
People are definitely blowing this up bigger than it actually is.
This is the content I come here for.
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20 hours ago, Tommy said:
Since most of the money was spent on things that doesn't come round very often, i don't think it is a big worrying issue.
Possible if we didn't have the Gov money, the training ground work wouldn't have taken place, but it been done interest free now.
The fact we don't have debt apart from the long term loan to the Gov is also good.
Anybody know who the player the chairman spoke about who transfer collapsed on Deadline day last January ?
I have read that Tony seem to be getting some blame, anything specific or just because he maybe was poor at the job 🤔
I think this was McGrath to the best of my knowledge.
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22 hours ago, santaponsasaint said:
Wrong. SG was voted on the board . People were brought in temporarily till some members put there names forward for the next meeting. Meetings are quarterly, not every week. SG will do a great job on the SMISA. He's knows the running of St.Mirren and Scottish Football. SG is not looking to be back on the club board.
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What type of meetings are you referring to Gary in terms of quarterly? As far as I'm aware unless it has changed, SMISA committee met every fortnight whether it be via a zoom call (during covid times at the very least) or in person
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2 minutes ago, Callum Gilhooley said:
I think the frustration with players moving to the likes of these two is driven by the fact we would be strengthening a competitor in our league.
While the ugly sisters are always likely to win the league, our only chance of silverware and better league position is wins against the Hibs, Hearts , Dons of this world - don’t want to willingly help their cause .
Yes they have more money and can probably double a players wages but I would rather see good players leaving us head south where we can chart their progress and be pleased for them - rather than watch them potentially flourish in Edinburgh or Aberdeen - perhaps at our expense .I think it also shows a lack of ambition too. The English leagues are a more attractive proposition even taking finances out of the equation. He is certainly good enough to be playing at English Championship level.
With 50ish games a season including cup games, a lot of these teams make full use of their squads with the constant demand of 2 games per week.
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26 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:
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I hadn't even noticed in that game. He must be making his way back if its been a fitness issue. I would also imagine if Brophy leaves in the next window, he may get his chance.
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On 11/17/2022 at 12:05 PM, Sue Denim said:
Olusanya was signed on a 2 year contract in the summer. We need to get offload someone if he’s to get a chance
And Jamieson is now 20 years old and the leading scorer in League One.
There seems to be a lot of silence over Olusanya. Barely kicked a ball in the first team and no status on his fitness. He isn't even making the bench.
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15 hours ago, Cookie Monster said:
The additional 1000 are not all sales as they include many free and at reduced price.
We have increased the number of tickets for schools and groups, where we are trying to gain future buds.
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They may not be all monetary sales or at the same price the blue and green were paying, though we are now building up our fan base and improving on the park and the match day experience, so that people will come back again and again. At a young age, a lot of kids are still unsure who they support if they are not regularly seeing 'their team' play in the flesh.
Imagine you were a young kid from Paisley or surrounding areas who has been influenced by either side of the green or blue, whether it be through family or being outnumbered at school, though turn up at these games and see us competing and winning these games, instead of being cannon fodder in a hostile environment.
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14 hours ago, Oldfellow said:
I feel much happier and more comfortable with the old firm only having one stand. I think it may also have helped the team performance. Clearly the attendances have been good compared to previous seasons but I do have one question. How does the income compare with previous seasons playing the OF? I don't know how many attending are paying the full whack and how many are freebies or concessions. In short are we losing income even though the attendances are good? It may well be the case that it's worthwhile even if we lose some income . I'd just like to know and will ask the question at the AGM.
This is a long term project with a short term loss imo. I for one have felt the match day atmosphere vs both Celtic & The Rangers to and from the game and in the ground watching the game a much more pleasant experience. Its felt a much safer environment that I would consider taking my kids to.
It's evident on paper that our own support gates are up, whether that is at a lesser monetary value or not I'm not sure.
That is worth it absolutely for me, to the alternative blue or green pound.
We just need to follow through now with a higher league finish etc.
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13 hours ago, shull said:
Very good point made by Robbo.
If there is a handball from the fakes on the build up to the St. Mirren handball in the box, surely it has to be taken back from there and reviewed if its part of the attacking play? After all, that's how we got penalised a couple of weeks ago, when Baccus was alleged to have fouled the Dundee Utd player before Ayunga scored, resulting in goal chopped off.
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On 9/23/2022 at 10:36 PM, waldorf34 said:
Giffnock soccer just got themselves £250k in funding for 2 new 3g pitches ,maybe they could show our club how to go about getting external funding ,cos our lot have no idea !
Im sure the dome was part funded by SportScotland. I could be wrong though.
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On 9/12/2022 at 7:35 PM, Callum Gilhooley said:
You could say that about anything I suppose , does that mean we do without a community asset because of morons ?
I think the Dome is great and has served us well , I’d like to see it replaced but id rather we replace it with a more permanent structure but again it all comes down to cost .It's a real shame as its is a unique facility within the community and houses many kids football run events, charitable causes and obviously like yourself, the repeat weekly booking slots. I think cheapest replacement would be to turn it into an outdoor 7s/8s pitch, though ideally a permanent indoor facility would be better.
The upkeep on the dome due to the elements and this recent issue, must be costing the club not only on repairs, though weeks and weeks of bookings that wouod have already been in place.
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4 hours ago, bazil85 said:
You mean apart from us paying six figures for a manager & a complete lack of evidence for financial hardship?
As has been pointed out to you before, it seems like the confusion has been linked to the Covid loan we took, just like all other top flight clubs bar Celtic.
You’re desperate for the club to be in financial difficulty, so much so you’re fabricating worry.
Without knowing too much, I'd imagine the overspend as you have said was used to cover losses during lockdown with the loan. These loans have a 0% (I think) 20 year payback period
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18 hours ago, Callum Gilhooley said:
What’s the story with Finlayson ? Is his loan spell simply a long goodbye ?
Never understood that one 🤷♂️
For his age, he never impressed me that much from what I had seen albeit not very much minutes.
The fact he was loaned out to League 2 last season, when at his age, he should have been playing closer to championship level, maybe shows his ability.
He has a year left, so wouldn't be surprised if it's just a matter of Linfield paying his last year. -
14 hours ago, W6er said:
Rangers fans have been given three stands and YET there are still some in the home end, and what's more they don't even hide it!
9:29 - 9:32, immediately after Livingston score there are groups of people who don't cheer. Also the singing afterwards, around 9:52, they appears evident.
Then watch 12:10 onwards. Rangers score and people blatantly celebrate in the home end.
9,672 was the official attendance, which means there was probably close to (I guess) 8500 Rangers fans.
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On 7/26/2022 at 3:36 PM, Cumbriansaint72 said:
Apart from the Glasgow 2, the Edinburgh 2 and Aberdeen probably don't feel the need to sell potential future assets for lets face it ridiculous sums like the 125k allegedly for Dylan Reid who could be worth so much more in future or indeed sell for low amounts with God knows how many sell on clauses which no guarantee of future payments.
According to the SMISA meeting notes, Celtics offer included a 30% sell-on fee. Selling at his development fee just now with a big sell-on fee now, whilst we have a bargaining tool, is better than having no negotiation other than the dev fee next summer.Interested clubs will see less risk in this model, instead of paying a larger upfront fee plus a sell-on as good as that for us.
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13 minutes ago, Rascal said:
Gut. The gut spoke to a guy. What are you drinking. Was it a gut feeling or a gut reaction. Not on a train, I hope.
Did it go along the lines of gurgle gurgle.
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I've yet to attend any of the pre-season games, though from what I gather quite a few people saying the players don't look fit enough over the course of the whole game.
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A few ways this could play out.
A) Rangers table an acceptable bid with a tidy sell on included this summer and he's off. They have already tabled a bid before Celtic so they are genuinely interested
B ) He gets a good run in the first team with us this season and attracts many other suitors, potentially leaving his options more open in the next window.
C ) He stays with us till end of season. running down his contract and joins Rangers for dev fee only. Would feel this is the one that scanners us most as we don't have a bargaining tool by this point and we have pretty much developed a player for them in our first team.
£125k to any top club outside of Scotland is absolute pennies.
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32 minutes ago, mattman said:
Best away top & unveil in my lifetime by a country mile! Very impressed! You’ll probably find a lot of people with no affiliation with the club will end up buying it as it’s rather appealing, and one you’ll see saints fans wearing 20 years down the line. Might buy 2 😂
Here, the Kelvin Homes is going for top dollar on eBay, you just never know its value in years to come.
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3 minutes ago, JJ McG said:
Brophy has 2 left I’m sure, I’m hoping for big things from him this season, Robinson rates him, I think he’s going to be a lot fitter this season.
Aye your right. Only 1 year into a 3 year contract. Probably feels longer since we had him for the loan spell prior to his contract kicking in.
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37 minutes ago, TopCat said:
Yeh we did, both of them got released by Rangers (lol).
With Reid it's obvious he has no interest at being at the club beyond next summer and he will certainly not be signing another deal with us. We either let him go now and accept a deal that we can tailor to what we believe is best for the club long term, or let him go for a development fee next summer, where we will have much less control. There's no third option.
I can't see him getting many minutes this season, so him leaving now is not going to have a great impact on the first team. He will be below O'Hara, Baccus and Erhahon and probably Flynn too for the centre midfield position. So yeah, i'd be inclined to take the money and the add ons now as opposed to going down the development fee route.
He's at a difficult place in his development at the moment. He's probably not good enough or ready yet to hold down a first team regular place, though he possibly could a year from now. He will be gone by then.
Cashing in now is the most sensible thing to do. He is fortunate with the clubs who are showing an interest in him. Add in at least a non-negotiable 20% sell-on and add-ons for appearances. -
I wasn't at the game on Saturday, so I don't have an idea of how we played, though what I can't understand is how a part-time team, who have had less time pre-season training than us to prepare for these games, can come away with victory and hold their own? Do they take a different mental approach to these games and we still use it as a 'pre-season'?
It doesn't worry me in the slightest that we were defeated in this game with it being so early on, though the comparison to resources etc, I would have expected us to pick up the required points. -
On 7/9/2022 at 11:48 PM, billyg said:
Looks like we've accepted their offer , whatever it is , but that might not be a bad move. I'm not sure if he would want to go there and someone else will surely put in a better offer , and with add-ons we'll make much more from him that way than we would by letting his contract expire and us getting a development fee with no add-ons ! One way or other , he's not going to play much for the first team !
This is a fair assessment of the situation. In a perfect scenario, he would have been ready to claim a place in the starting lineup, though I guess he would need to wait his chance. Very few come through at his age and stake a regular place in the starting lineup. Probably have to go as far back as John McGinn, who never done so until he was approaching his 18th birthday. Dylan is out of contract next summer and I am sure he would move on next summer if it wasn't this summer, as interest seems high.
I'd imagine for an offer of £125k, there must be a decent sell-on fee for us.
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There is no way we would entertain that with 18 months left on his contract.
As far as I'm lead to believe we were looking for around 700k for McGrath 2 summers ago, before he eventually went the following January window with 6 months left on his contract for around half of that.
I honestly can't see us entertaining any lower than £1m at this stage. With Lasley onboard alongside Robinson, would he have a better insight of how Motherwell held out for higher fees for their prized assets? The timing of the accounts released publicly will have clubs thinking they can buy on the cheap, though id like to think we can stand our ground even till the summer if there are not serious bids.
Look at the likes of Dykes at Livy (tbf he's went on to do very well), Connor Sammon at Killie, Toni Andreu & Hendrie at Acciews(ffs) all in the past going for 7 figure sums.
Baccus is an international (also played at a WC finals) and at a very good age with 18 months left on his contract.