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12 minutes ago, faraway saint said:
Who mentioned Tax?
Taking things off tangent again to back up your "up the workers" attitude.
So, YOU'RE saying that if your parents leave you some property/cash it's a bad thing?
This thread is brilliant.
We were talking about how wealth is passed on between generations and as I mentioned the principle that it should be taxed is well established.
No going off at a tangent from me,
Nope, only a fool would make that interpretation of what I posted - scratches chin.
This thread and the selfish attitudes expressed, often by you, is depressing.
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Do you have any answer to my assertion that progressive taxation benefits the "many" in the long run other than your customary deference to your betters?
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14 minutes ago, faraway saint said:
Let me get this straight, your parents work hard, earn their money, manage to buy their house, leave this to their children and it's a problem?
Is this a wind up as I'm seeing this as more and more ludicrous with every post.
The principle of Inheritance Tax dates back to Victorian times - just how far back do you want to take us?
I'm going to vote for parties with progressive tax policies on Thursday in the belief that although this will not benefit me in the short term if they benefit the majority of people then it will benefit me more in the long run, I see nothing ludicrous about this - it's just a matter of how you define selfishness.
I will make no apologies for saying the cake should be sliced more evenly,
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It'll be an interesting next coupla seasons for them as supporters group MCT are poised to take over this summer. It could go either way for them as they will have to live within budget upon completion of the deal - if they don't make a recovery in the play-offs or bounce back from Div 1 quickly they could turn into one of those famous old clubs (Airdrie, Clyde, QotS) who no longer trouble the top flight - that's if they're not there already (sic).
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The wonders of the interweb...
Yesterday while surfing I discovered that the original Alvin Stardust was Pete Shelly (no, not that one!) who wrote and recorded Alvin's first hit My Coo Ca Choo before retiring into the background and letting Mr. Fenton take the applause. However in a bizarre twist it turns out there were two Shane Fenton's too, with the original (Johnny Theakston) dying tragically aged just 17.
RIP to Theakston and his replacement as Shane Fenton (A.K.A. Bernard Jewry) the one I was familiar with who died in 2014 aged 72.
Mr. Shelley had a couple of hits under his own name including Love Me, Love My Dog currently resides in Canada - Rock On.
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In an unrelated turn of events there were two Martha's in the original Muffins line-up.
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2 minutes ago, salmonbuddie said:5 hours ago, lenziebud said:Aye and Sturgeon would receive the same kick ?
Why? She's nothing to do with the party Keir Hardie founded.
It's clear looking back over the last few pages where the real bile is coming from...
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5 hours ago, oaksoft said:
Oh don't worry. I got my answer.
You've outed yourself as just another plastic lefty. Just like Bud the Baker.
We've established that you don't respect "real" lefties either so it's a pointless insult.
This spat all started over Faraway's comparison between Starmer & Sarwar - I have no grievance with a successful man like Starmer leading the Labour Party at UK level but not Sarwar at branch level for the reasons given.
As the diversion continued into specific policies the salient point is that every Tory leader since Thatcher has made an opening speech promising to "level up" and gone on to do the opposite.
You acknowledge that the real challenge over the coming decades will be to be to protect the environment but you're unwilling to recognize that any successful solution to this must come from a Green/Red alliance and "ridiculous taxes"
this will inevitably bring.
I look forward to your next unpleasant epistle...
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2 hours ago, faraway saint said:
What if somebody worked hard and became a millionaire, are they unworthy?
This "label" is, frankly, pointless.
I don't think being a millionaire should stop you from being the leader of a Socialist party, especially if like Starmer you're from London where property prices probably puts you a good way down that road but Sarwar should be an automatic non-runner up here due to his company's wage history.
3 hours ago, faraway saint said:Are you honestly saying that you have to be "common" to be a representative of a political party?
How, exactly, do you define "common"?
You come across as having a chip about people that are not from the street.
Oh, and I said in an earlier post Sarwar "came across" as bright and personable.
Point 1 - already in place, irrespective of private schools.
Point 2 - already in place, with countless billions being poured into the NHS every year, still never enough, seemingly.
Point 3 - Not so sure on this one, the number of people homeless isn't all down to the government, private buyers had hit the housing market hard. That'll be common people jumping aboard the property boom, damn them for not wanting to be common.
Point 4 - I have some experience of these issues, being involved with a scheme up here. As usual, a mixture of people who truly deserve help and people who quite simply, have never tried to lift themselves and their family out of the support that is provided. No sob stories here please.
I think where the left often fails (and I've fallen into this trap myself) is that we forget people are aspirational - Tony Blair for all his faults has been the only Labour leader since Wilson in the 60s to avoid this pratfall.
Point 1 - I wouldn't ban private schools but I would remove their charitable status.
Point 2 - Again I wouldn't ban private health care but ways must be found to prevent it piggybacking on the NHS.
Point 3. - The housing market was skewed by the Tories back in the 80s when they sold off council houses at below market values and prevented councils replacing them causing shortages. Ownership/Renting should not really matter - what is important is security of tenure which is not always available with private renting
Point 4 - Why does it always come down to splitting people into the deserving and undeserving poor, the clear context is that some people are scum - isn't it?
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I will never vote Conservative as the party have demonized & marginalized people (from the enemy within & the looney left in the 80s to today's cultural wars & marginalization of workers rights due to the gig economy) over the course of my adult life, and continue to do so, since Thatcher came in quoting Francis of Assisi all of them have come into office talking of "levelling up" and all of them have done the complete opposite.
1 hour ago, faraway saint said:Do people who work hard doing a simple job deserve the same as people who are inventive, are pushing boundaries and prepared to go the extra mile?
Not in the real world.
Employers will, generally, reward people who contribute more to the company.
We all know people who work hard but have limitations.
If only life was like that.............................
In the "real world" no-one goes out alone into the Klondyke to discover gold anymore, even "inventive people who are pushing boundaries" today are merely taking advantage of the benefits society has offered and any rewards accrued should be taxed accordingly.
As usual the three posts I've quoted is a rehash of the "forelock tugging" you always come out with - the UK has one of the biggest (if not the biggest) disparities in income between the Top&Bottom 10% in Europe - life really could be fairer, if only we choose it to be so...................
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I'm assuming that (like me) you're a 50+ homeowner with a decent pension to look forward to (we're all right Jack), our children may well be the first generation to be poorer than their parents (sic) - what a legacy we're leaving.
Wow that was a bit more than I intended to write!
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On 10/26/2020 at 1:06 PM, antrin said:
Nomadland: US
Produced and starring Frances McDormand (3 Billboards outside Ebbings... Fargo and other good Coen stuff).
It's about the actual real community of poorish white (mainly) Americans and their itinerant lifestyle, following the seasons for work or warmth who live in their vans, dormobiles etc. They meet, split and meet up... down the road again..
Apart from McDormand I think there's only one other actual actor - the rest are real people. It' s beautifully filmed, interesting and sweeps you along. Making that lifestyle APPEAR attractive but still showing some of its hardships. No great story development: though there kinda is one, it's slight.
McDormand could get another Oscar for this.
Well worth seeing.
Yup plus another two too...
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Watched Neil Jordan's The Crying Deal and discovered this in the Goofs section of IMDB...
QuoteAudio/visual unsynchronised
In Balbriggan County, Dublin, a Northern Ireland Railways GM locomotive 113 passes in the background, pulling a passenger train. It makes the sound of a British Rail HST railcar set, which is quite different. The sound effect is also too short; most of the train passes silently.Would it be too corny to suggest that "two too" would also be a delightfully onomatopoeic in this instance?
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9 minutes ago, faraway saint said:
What, exactly, do you want me to do to level up society?
What do you actually do to level up society?
Life's hard, harder for some, I look after my own, there's too many issues for me to be worrying about every day of my life.
Vote for a progressive party.
I'll vote SNP (constituency) & Green (List) next week - I'd vote Green at Constituency level too if they had a chance of winning.
You worry enough to comment about it and complain about policies that might cost you money but would arguably be a benefit to society as a whole like free broadband.
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23 minutes ago, faraway saint said:
You'd prefer if everybody was poor? 😂
If I could have afforded it I'd have sent my children to private school as I believe it would have given them a better education and a better chance in life, my bad. 🙄
Well I'll jump in here...
1. No I'd prefer it if everyone was paid a fair wage, and in the case of Sarwar's company not an illegal & unfair one.
2. It's a fair POV but you can't hold it and say you believe in levelling up society - which is the charge levelled against Sarwar, who is the leader of a political party that is, the last time I looked, notionally Socialist.
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6 hours ago, portmahomack saint said:
Who told you that... Andrew Neil or Jacob Rees Mogg
Used to report on Saints matches for the PDE...
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1 hour ago, faraway saint said:
Lots of reasons that not everybody who has seen Braveheart wants to leave the UK, pointing a a few groups is pretty pointless as EVERYBODY, no matter what team they follow, is entitled to a vote.
Anyhow, it seems the recent euphoria by some, slavering about "free in 23"
is petering out......................
Nicola Sturgeon has backed away from her threat to hold a new independence referendum this year as a new poll showed support for leaving the UK had fallen to its lowest level in 18 months.
Yeah that's all a bit disappointing, I blame it mostly on the way Sturgeon mishandled the the Salmond affair - I'm still confident at worst we'll be Separate by 28.
As long as Tory hegemony at Westminster continues it's just a matter of time - even though people get more conservative as they get older I still reckon demographics are on our side too. Tactically I expect a pro-Independence majority at Holyrood next week to call for a second referendum within the timescale of the next Scottish Parliament followed by Johnson blocking all moves towards IndyRef2 which will be counterproductive. If Johnson had the balls for it I reckon his best move would be to agree to an early second referendum which really would derail any further moves for independence for 20 years if NO won.
The most damaging outcome for independence would be Alba getting 5-10 seats and the toxicity surrounding Alex Salmond leading to a loss of focus, which is a pity because a left-wing pro-Independence party standing on the lists only is a good idea.
Slavering - at least I'm not frightened about the future.
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Oh and @windae cleaner the SNP republican - if only!
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An old disparaging review of Citizen Kane has been discovered which has spoiled it's 100% rating on Movie Site Rotten Tomatoes, the new top rated fillum on the site is Paddington2!
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Straight to the top of the "You couldn't make it up" charts...
QuoteBoris Johnson will have the final say over deciding whether or not he broke the ministerial code in relation to the funding of his flat - despite the announcement of an inquiry by the new independent adviser on ministerial interests appointed this morning. The prime minister has always been the ultimate judge of whether or not a minister has broken the code. But, given that his own conduct is now being investigated, the prime minister’s spokesman was asked if Johnson would recuse himself from this investigation. The spokesman said Johnson would remain the “ultimate arbiter” of the code.
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As it's fairly clear Boris did try to secure payment from Lord Brownlow for the renovations to his pad, I wonder how "they're" going to spin him out of this.
Oh and three cheers for Lord Brownlow for trying to help out the underprivileged ex-Eton alumni Johnson.
QuoteIn 2013 he set up the David Brownlow Charitable Foundation, which he says is “dedicated to enhancing the lives and wellbeing of individuals and communities where there is an element of disadvantage"
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3 minutes ago, antrin said:
Must say...
I loathed The Lion Kind.
Far too soppy. Whoever heard of a vegetarian Lion?
Just saying that foe a boomer like me he'll always be Big Ted's straight man.
I wonder if Irons drank as much as Burton to achieve that tone...
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Oops, I thought this was the Telly thread, still it's an improvement on 90% of the shit posted previously - that's the N/S 4ya!
A documentary on the Hittite Empire narrated by Jeremy Irons who has inherited the world's most dulcet baritone voice from Richard Burton. Irons won an Oscar for his role in Reversal of Fortune and is famous for many roles in fillums such as The Lion Kind, and Die Hard with a Vengeance amongst others but I still remember him from Playschool, he's the one in the fetching Bow Tie...
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45 minutes ago, oaksoft said:
You and salmonbuddie seem absolutely intent on having a fight.
Life's way too short.
I'll leave you to it.
The ultimate in hypocrisy - you're the one who started this particular "fight".
The epithets just keep piling up...
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3 minutes ago, oaksoft said:
1. Oh Bud. As I've said before, if you knew anything about me at all you'd know how ridiculous that bit in bold is.
2. As for IOBS, have a look at his last posts. They are still up there. You'll quickly see why he no longer posts here.
1. All I know is your online persona which is unpleasant,
2. See above.
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15 hours ago, oaksoft said:
None of that changes the fact that you are a plastic lefty bud.
It's easy to be a hand-wringing left winger from the comfort of your armchair.
I have no issue with genuine left wingers. I don't agree with their viewpoints but I respect them. Plastic lefties like you on the other hand, are another kettle of fish.
Well now ain't that a whopper and from the self declared "Smartest Guy on the Forum" too!
You're the guy who labelled the Green Party's (the most left wing party in Scotland with MSPs) tax plans "ridiculous" hardly showing respect, "excessive" would have made the same point but been respectful at the same time - but a lack of self-awareness has always been one of your noticeable personality traits.
You show little respect to anyone and deserve none in return, you bullied IOBS off the forum - however I admit to being indebted for the the phrase "morally repugnant" as it's a perfect fit for you.
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43 minutes ago, oaksoft said:
Plastic lefties.
Oh, so you're joining in the game now - typical intervention from a lying, racist, sociopath, self declared "smartest man on the forum" and economic illiterate (you can't have a Scandinavian society on UK taxes and you branded proposals to fund this by the Greens as ridiculous) - let the fun continue!
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2 hours ago, bazil85 said:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-news-cummings-flat-bodies-b1837468.html
Thoughts on this? No smoke without fire does come to mind but surely he hasn't been stupid enough to make such a comment... Mental if true.
Boris is the Tory Foreign Secretary who said "fuck business" when they were lobbying for a softer Brexit back in the day, he's prone to using overblown language so who knows?
Lotta enquiries going on at the moment
and it seems to have the Tories a little bit rattled as they are all giving identical replies, the problem for us lefties is the criticism is all coming from outside the tent at the moment, unless one of the insiders (Gove?) delivers the fatal blow it's all destined for wrapping tomorrow's fish suppers - as us oldies say! 
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Both BBC and ITV quoting "sources" saying BJ did make the alleged remark, with Peston on ITV also saying Cummings is not the "chatty rat".
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35 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:1 hour ago, Bud the Baker said:More fake pity Cap'n & no doubt ill informed - keep it up...
...and all this over a disease that doesn't exist!
Yeah thousands dying to this virus in India each day and it's spring. He'll not be able to compute how that's happening.
Probably the best way to tackle the disease in India & the Third World in general would to put a waiver on Covid vaccines....
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11 hours ago, Sue Denim said:
The health derive in India is the preserve of the middle class
its not accessible to the hundreds of millions of ordinarily folk in India
Lockdown in India will kill millions of poor people
This is @Bud the Baker’s world.
The rich get richer
The middle class are better off
Hundreds of millions driven into even more poverty and death
Eat the poor . That’s what @Bud the Baker supports
More fake pity Cap'n & no doubt ill informed - keep it up...
...and all this over a disease that doesn't exist!
The Politics Thread
in General Nonsense
Posted · Edited by Bud the Baker
1. Let's not pretend we're any different in this regard.
2. We were talking about passing on wealth between generations and the principle of Inheritance Tax dating back to Victorian times is a fact, as for the bit in bold that's a deliberate misinterpretation of what I actually said - and two can play that game.
3. Pointless question - it's covered in Point 2.
4. Unless you're advocating living in a gated community helping the "many" is the same as helping yourself - as I've already said.
5. I've no problem with people working hard and making a bit of money but as I've said countless times now nobody does it on their own these days.
6. You're coming across as a selfish "I'm all right Jack" character which is even sadder.
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We seem to have reached the "going round in circles" stage of the discussion so unless you come up with something new I'm out.