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Anyway. I’ve had enough of this trail. 
C’est la vie. 

So random, you thought it worthy of a response.
I respect that;  you gave a good answer. 
The correct answer. Right fenced funds should remain as such. 
Cheers. 

Ring fenced funds are being spent for other purposes  
Whether it’s discretion or otherwise is moot. 

It’s a narrow question deliberately to understand from you in principle whether you would approve use of ring fenced (singular intention for use) funds by the board.
You answered NO. 
No other question was required as supplementary. You said NO. 
 
“Unless it’s for an Astro pitch & might hurt the players budget “
 
thats conflicted & confused. 

It’s a narrow question deliberately to understand from you in principle whether you would approve use of ring fenced (singular intention for use) funds by the board.
You answered NO. 
No other question was required as supplementary. You said NO. 
 
“Unless it’s for an Astro pitch & might hurt the players budget “
 
thats conflicted & confused. 

Your opinion seems to be conflicting & confused. 

in your opinion boss

No

Here's how I would have expected this to be dealt with...
Request - £50K as contribution from SMISA for astro pitch please?
Response - We don't have those sort of funds readily available as discretionary to fund this type of thing - SORRY ABOUT THAT!
Its not what the ring fenced funds are for and we won't jeopardise those funds or the trust of our members - REALLY SORRY ABOUT THAT!
Request - is it reasonable to put this to a vote?
Response - We shouldn't put a specific requirement like funding of an astro pitch from ring fenced funds to a vote.
Maybe its prudent to ask if these funds should remain protected or if we can use in emergency situations and in future circumstances if the members want to use the funds for something else.
An astro pitch is not an emergency - lets just agree to keep the funds ring fenced.
Aye OK that's sensible - that's good governance!
Minuted and noted!
Is there another way we could help perhaps?
Options:
We could take out a loan  - NO!
We could transfer funds early in return for shares in proportion to investment.
We could save up our discretionary £2 pot for 30 months and offer £50k at a later time when we've saved up - put that to a vote along with other sensible options for the discretionary pot.
We could help the club with a separate fundraising campaign to raise funds for the astro pitch.
The club could fund it themselves.
G :-)

Here's how I would have expected this to be dealt with...
Request - £50K as contribution from SMISA for astro pitch please?
Response - We don't have those sort of funds readily available as discretionary to fund this type of thing - SORRY ABOUT THAT!
Its not what the ring fenced funds are for and we won't jeopardise those funds or the trust of our members - REALLY SORRY ABOUT THAT!
Request - is it reasonable to put this to a vote?
Response - We shouldn't put a specific requirement like funding of an astro pitch from ring fenced funds to a vote.
Maybe its prudent to ask if these funds should remain protected or if we can use in emergency situations and in future circumstances if the members want to use the funds for something else.
An astro pitch is not an emergency - lets just agree to keep the funds ring fenced.
Aye OK that's sensible - that's good governance!
Minuted and noted!
Is there another way we could help perhaps?
Options:
We could take out a loan  - NO!
We could transfer funds early in return for shares in proportion to investment.
We could save up our discretionary £2 pot for 30 months and offer £50k at a later time when we've saved up - put that to a vote along with other sensible options for the discretionary pot.
We could help the club with a separate fundraising campaign to raise funds for the astro pitch.
The club could fund it themselves.
G :-)

Here's how I would have expected this to be dealt with...
Request - £50K as contribution from SMISA for astro pitch please?
Response - We don't have those sort of funds readily available as discretionary to fund this type of thing - SORRY ABOUT THAT!
Its not what the ring fenced funds are for and we won't jeopardise those funds or the trust of our members - REALLY SORRY ABOUT THAT!
Request - is it reasonable to put this to a vote?
Response - We shouldn't put a specific requirement like funding of an astro pitch from ring fenced funds to a vote.
Maybe its prudent to ask if these funds should remain protected or if we can use in emergency situations and in future circumstances if the members want to use the funds for something else.
An astro pitch is not an emergency - lets just agree to keep the funds ring fenced.
Aye OK that's sensible - that's good governance!
Minuted and noted!
Is there another way we could help perhaps?
Options:
We could take out a loan  - NO!
We could transfer funds early in return for shares in proportion to investment.
We could save up our discretionary £2 pot for 30 months and offer £50k at a later time when we've saved up - put that to a vote along with other sensible options for the discretionary pot.
We could help the club with a separate fundraising campaign to raise funds for the astro pitch.
The club could fund it themselves.
G :-)

Just because the view is a minority one doesn’t mean it’s wrong. Lol. 

Just because the view is a minority one doesn’t mean it’s wrong. Lol. 

Just because the view is a minority one doesn’t mean it’s wrong. Lol. 

Just because the view is a minority one doesn’t mean it’s wrong. Lol. 

It’s not a surprise to be honest. 
The way this has been put out however has been unfortunately so skewed towards an inevitable yes outcome it beggars belief. 
Emotional blackmail included to drag along fans who can’t see or understand the single most important objective for SMISA and like sheep press the yes button without a second thought. 
To spell this out clearly this vote means we are paying for our shares twice!!!.
Saving up to pay back money loaned to ourselves is an unbelievable way to go about things. 
Smisa need to grow a pair & protect all future funds- saving only to buy shares. 
This should be enshrined & untouchable  - not risked in any way whatsoever & never used as a political football again..
To know what should be put to a vote, held back as protected is good governance & sound judgement - Smisa need to be a bit more hard nosed & protect the members from themselves, lol  as it looks like every suggestion will get voted through without a care.
Be careful as you go forward SMISA .

Can’t make AGM today. My views are clear though. 
Not popular but correct! Lol  
 

It’s not a surprise to be honest. 
The way this has been put out however has been unfortunately so skewed towards an inevitable yes outcome it beggars belief. 
Emotional blackmail included to drag along fans who can’t see or understand the single most important objective for SMISA and like sheep press the yes button without a second thought. 
To spell this out clearly this vote means we are paying for our shares twice!!!.
Saving up to pay back money loaned to ourselves is an unbelievable way to go about things. 
Smisa need to grow a pair & protect all future funds- saving only to buy shares. 
This should be enshrined & untouchable  - not risked in any way whatsoever & never used as a political football again..
To know what should be put to a vote, held back as protected is good governance & sound judgement - Smisa need to be a bit more hard nosed & protect the members from themselves, lol  as it looks like every suggestion will get voted through without a care.
Be careful as you go forward SMISA .

It’s not a surprise to be honest. 
The way this has been put out however has been unfortunately so skewed towards an inevitable yes outcome it beggars belief. 
Emotional blackmail included to drag along fans who can’t see or understand the single most important objective for SMISA and like sheep press the yes button without a second thought. 
To spell this out clearly this vote means we are paying for our shares twice!!!.
Saving up to pay back money loaned to ourselves is an unbelievable way to go about things. 
Smisa need to grow a pair & protect all future funds- saving only to buy shares. 
This should be enshrined & untouchable  - not risked in any way whatsoever & never used as a political football again..
To know what should be put to a vote, held back as protected is good governance & sound judgement - Smisa need to be a bit more hard nosed & protect the members from themselves, lol  as it looks like every suggestion will get voted through without a care.
Be careful as you go forward SMISA .

It’s not a surprise to be honest. 
The way this has been put out however has been unfortunately so skewed towards an inevitable yes outcome it beggars belief. 
Emotional blackmail included to drag along fans who can’t see or understand the single most important objective for SMISA and like sheep press the yes button without a second thought. 
To spell this out clearly this vote means we are paying for our shares twice!!!.
Saving up to pay back money loaned to ourselves is an unbelievable way to go about things. 
Smisa need to grow a pair & protect all future funds- saving only to buy shares. 
This should be enshrined & untouchable  - not risked in any way whatsoever & never used as a political football again..
To know what should be put to a vote, held back as protected is good governance & sound judgement - Smisa need to be a bit more hard nosed & protect the members from themselves, lol  as it looks like every suggestion will get voted through without a care.
Be careful as you go forward SMISA .

It’s not a surprise to be honest. 
The way this has been put out however has been unfortunately so skewed towards an inevitable yes outcome it beggars belief. 
Emotional blackmail included to drag along fans who can’t see or understand the single most important objective for SMISA and like sheep press the yes button without a second thought. 
To spell this out clearly this vote means we are paying for our shares twice!!!.
Saving up to pay back money loaned to ourselves is an unbelievable way to go about things. 
Smisa need to grow a pair & protect all future funds- saving only to buy shares. 
This should be enshrined & untouchable  - not risked in any way whatsoever & never used as a political football again..
To know what should be put to a vote, held back as protected is good governance & sound judgement - Smisa need to be a bit more hard nosed & protect the members from themselves, lol  as it looks like every suggestion will get voted through without a care.
Be careful as you go forward SMISA .

It’s not a surprise to be honest. 
The way this has been put out however has been unfortunately so skewed towards an inevitable yes outcome it beggars belief. 
Emotional blackmail included to drag along fans who can’t see or understand the single most important objective for SMISA and like sheep press the yes button without a second thought. 
To spell this out clearly this vote means we are paying for our shares twice!!!.
Saving up to pay back money loaned to ourselves is an unbelievable way to go about things. 
Smisa need to grow a pair & protect all future funds- saving only to buy shares. 
This should be enshrined & untouchable  - not risked in any way whatsoever & never used as a political football again..
To know what should be put to a vote, held back as protected is good governance & sound judgement - Smisa need to be a bit more hard nosed & protect the members from themselves, lol  as it looks like every suggestion will get voted through without a care.
Be careful as you go forward SMISA .

It’s not a surprise to be honest. 
The way this has been put out however has been unfortunately so skewed towards an inevitable yes outcome it beggars belief. 
Emotional blackmail included to drag along fans who can’t see or understand the single most important objective for SMISA and like sheep press the yes button without a second thought. 
To spell this out clearly this vote means we are paying for our shares twice!!!.
Saving up to pay back money loaned to ourselves is an unbelievable way to go about things. 
Smisa need to grow a pair & protect all future funds- saving only to buy shares. 
This should be enshrined & untouchable  - not risked in any way whatsoever & never used as a political football again..
To know what should be put to a vote, held back as protected is good governance & sound judgement - Smisa need to be a bit more hard nosed & protect the members from themselves, lol  as it looks like every suggestion will get voted through without a care.
Be careful as you go forward SMISA .

whoosh... lol

With all due respect, that really is quite a pathetic and counter productive attitude.
I seriously hope your views do not reflect the views of those involved in the management of SMISA, the second that kind of attitude is adopted the game is up.