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Indeed. I did also speak to Ian Henderson, he is definitely up for getting involved and may even have his own plans brewing but he sounds like the sort of local saints minded businessman who might be a good fit for any new board, not least because he's already in there and would hit the ground running.
From a footballing point of view Ricky Gillies is still local, part of a successful football agency. He might be up for getting involved too.
Just needs someone to bring it all together, the potential is there as far as I am concerned and the timing is maybe right to give it another go.

If it's to happen at all, I vote for the selling consortium making the first move, being pro-active for once, and reaching out to SMiSA, the fan council, the supporter's clubs, and fans in general.Tell us what's on their mind and where they want to go with this. Let's see where we are then.
Richard did it. Like him, loathe him, or anywhere in-between, he started by approaching small groups of fans, stepped it up to open meetings, made himself available online, produced online and printed literature...
He tried - you cannot accuse him of not trying. I'm prepared to listen to what the selling consortium have to say, so let's hear it.

That's an interesting slant to put on why he's still here and will probably sign a new contract...
As for McGinn, if that post was a dig at the board then it's the only dig he has shown this season. Last year he was one of the few bright spots in a poor team, this year he has been as bad as the rest of a mediocre one. It may be he is not being used correctly however he should still be performing better. It was a tad annoying to see him getting man of the match for Scotland under-21s. If he gets a deal somewhere else it'll be based mainly on last year's displays.
Stephen was punted because he wouldn't sign a new contract - same as Dundee United punting Mackay-Steven. Doing what we did meant we got a bit of cash. He didn't get run out of the club by folk thinking he wasn't good enough - unless they didn't think he was good enough to justify the wage he was after. Were there not attempts to bring him back at some point but he didn't want to as it might push his brother out of the team.
Paul had a contract and was offered another one but chose to go elsewhere as he wanted first team football. No problem with that, but it's wrong to say we didn't try to keep him. At the time he was behind Vanzy in the pecking order. If he'd stuck around who knows if he'd have got in the team ahead of Naismith a few months into the season.

He is better and younger than me.

If we can take off the rose tinted saints glasses and see things clearly then Sean Kelly will be in this team. He is slow and weak and was absolutely ripped apart the other night. I actually think I have seen better players in the juniors. Add to that the whole back line the other night and for most of the season. The thing is that as much as McLean and McGinn are good what else is there ? Mallan ok yes potentially good but don't tell me we have a crop of good youngsters coming through - we have a decision to make 1. Stick with Gary and youth and struggle next year to get anywhere as the championship is tough and these wee laddies wouldn't cope. 2 appoint an experienced manger who knows the division and sign decent experienced players to compliment the young players which may give us a chance. Cruicially we require a leader an organiser and I believe david long well and Gary will be relived of their duties as to be honest when Kenny was sold their game plan was shot to pieces. Yes I feel for Gary and I like him I would keep him as an assistant and groom him but for now I think we need experience and a man like Peter Houston who has a system who can get the most out of a small budget.

Is that the same guy who sat out a large part of the season through stupid suspensions and admitted by him as such.No player should be absolved of blame in what has been the worse year ever watching St Mirren.They should all take a good look at themselves and while looking at the mirror ask the question,did i do enough for my team.The answer if they are honest is a profound no.Most will move on as St Mirren means f**k all to them.Its a job and some even have the cheek to call it work.Hurt has turned to anger now and in a few weeks they will be golfing and rolling about Magaluf while some staff will be issued with their p45,s.I find that hard to take.

He's younger than me.

I would give it to Goodwin and young player to stevie mallan!! Both played pretty decent

And John McGinn should f*ck up.
He's culpable in our disgrace of a Team this Season.

must be an imposter on just now then because he has no class and is winding me right up.

Like a few on here I too will be renewing my season ticket, not because of the BOD,s the team, or any of the management but
because I am a St.Mirren supporter, always will be.
I am just as angry and sad, like many, the way the mighty and proud St.Mirren have been allowed, mainly by the BOD, too fall
from grace however I remain optimistic that we will be back in the premier league, if their is a complete change throughout
St.Mirren

Agreed

Sorry, this is not the beginning of the spiral and it is certainly not the end of it.
There are several people on our board who are credited with "saving" the club and who have been praised endlessly for their work which surely saw us avoid an administration event. Since then various people in our support have crowed about teams like Dundee, Hearts and Dunfermline going through administration, but look at this
St Mirren have constantly re-defined the law of diminshing returns over the last few years. We cut to save money, which leads to a reduction in resources, which leads to a reduction in quality, which leads to a reduction in success, which leads to a cut in revenue, which leads to a need to cut further, etc. We sold off the old ground that had an intrinsic value to move to a new facility that is uninspiring we invest in a youth academy that fails to produce a return on the investment due to leases, planning constraints and other issues, these so-called assets are actually worthless as no money can be made from them the kitty is now empty, after only 5 years since our re-birth we have to sell our only good player so that we can pay wages So is administration next, or will we cut so far again that the club is confined to the lower leagues for years, probably? and these guys want £1.5 million for a shareholding that they largely inherited?
Sorry, people, we've been had!

Let's not forget they pleaded for us all to go and support the team last night.....only for Gilmour to turn round on the radio and try to pin the blame on a 'minority of fans turning on the players' for the current shit storm we find ourselves in. You couldn't make it up.

Would disagree on a couple of points. The chairman cajoling, pleading and encouraging the support sounds like a few months ago he came out fighting to rally the weary supporters, and, with woad painted on his face, he rode past the West Stand on a mighty stallion, waving a huge Adidas flag to indicate the deal he's struck for next season, while screaming, 'they can take our Kenny, but they cannot take our top flight statussssss!'
He did no such thing. He did fcuk-all until SMiSA poked him with a nicely worded, and indeed restrained, electronic message. Only then did he trot out a couple of quick paragraphs after being prompted to. When they wanted us to suck Rangers dick, they were a damn sight quicker and more animated in reaching out to the St Mirren support. Which brings me neatly onto a point you make about 'irony'.
I think the irony is not in his statement prior to last night's game. The irony is that if there's any armageddon in the air, it isn't because of Rangers at all, it's because of his BoDs actions SINCE 'Rangers'. Clearly, armageddon did not happen, and in fact, many non OF clubs have moved forward. ICT sniffing Europe... What was a pretty poor Aberdeen rallying so much that they ran Celtic close... Hamilton flying - until losing what is now clearly a very good young manager, and let's not forget, tough tackling midfielder... Dundee sniffing top 6 and getting good results... Killie moving quietly away from any relegation woes...The fakes winning the Scottish Cup and clearly NOT being a club even thinking about being relegation fodder. Even Motherwell, who were in freefall - they bring in Pearson & McDonald, and Barraclough (we could even see it in their dressing room cam' last night) looks like a manager who can organise, inspire, and rally his troops.
That's the irony. It would almost be funny if it wasn't so painful. In a top flight free from Rangers, Hearts and Hibs - meaning three clubs with hugely bigger resources than us were not even around to probably finish above us, we fcuked ourselves up our own arse against teams we could so easily have finished above, or at the very least, been very close to in points gained. This could have been one almighty relegation / top 6 scrap involving six or seven clubs of similar stature.
No, we fcuk it up at the worst ever time to go down. Not only that, we look like managing to fcuk it up by missing out on the new money-spinning and what would be exciting and scary in equal measure, playoff matches.
I am genuinely not that angry about it, but I will be if that BoD are still in place and send me their annual ST begging letter. Mind you, they might not even bother sending one out, unless the SMiSA leadership draft it for them.

The ultimate irony was served up yesterday................ Cajoled, encouraged, pleaded with and encouraged to spend our well earned cash by Stuart Gilmour to make the effort to go and support the team in the hour of need in Motherwell.
So we go, we watch in awe as one team wants to win it and the other goes through the motions of making up the numbers for 90 minutes.
I say "irony" as it can't escape Mr Gilmour's attention that the state of the club, the team and the position we are in, are probably 90% down to the lack of vision, commitment, investment and direction from the top that is required by any organisation if the company / team / staff are to be encouraged to win, fight for their job, and succeed. Firm management with a goal in sight is what is needed in any organisation and we have lacked this for something like four to fiveyears.
The BoD's have sought an exit ever since the Tesco deal, but they have found that the price they thought their time and investment was worth was not what others believed it was worth, so they have hung on to some long term hope that someone from somewhere will come out of the closet and pay them an amount that they think their share ownership entitles them to.
There is a direct analogy with building a house. You can spend no end of money in making that house great looking, work perfectly and appear to be the perfect residency...................... but cost and value have little or no direct link. So you can spend £1m in building a house in say Greenock, but it might only be worth only £300k.
That in effect is what the BoD's have, an asset that they think they have built that is worth X amount and the rest of the world believing it is probably worth at least 1/3rd of that amount.
I had never thought that I would argue for change the way I now feel. There is a way to force the Board but I'm not yet inclined to push for that option, but unless they commit to a vision they will see less and less commitment from the fans and the players as time dwindles by.
I'm very sad today..................... we're going down with a whimper and a distinct lack of direction

My posts have been recent, and infrequent, however.....
Just back from the 200 mile trip, collectively me and those who travelled have spent over a grand watching some of the poorest footballing exploits I have ever seen!
In optimism and pure blind faith, I expected some sort of desire and fight from our team tonight.
What I witnessed was, men against boys, organisation v's disorganisation, and a team who wanted to win, v's a who hoped to win!!
We are relegated, and it happens to our team, we will get promoted again, however....
How can the BOD seriously think fans won't get turned off? Without regurgitating everything that's been said on this forum.... Danny Lennon, TC, GT, selling KM, new signings not been played... Really what the fcuk is the deal with sanoupe??? Listening to the shite from cheesy about staying up this morning, only to get absolutely turned over by utter pish tonight!!??
I don't personally think GT is to blame, he should have served an apprenticeship before taking the reigns.
This summer has to be our genesis, new owners, new manager, clear out of the team, start a fcuking again, and get us something to be excited about.
There is absolutely no reason why Inverness, RC, Hamilton, St Johnstone, killie, dundee, etc should be so far ahead of us.
Our club is in the state its in because of shite management from top to bottom, and unless we want to go the way of airdrie, Dunfermline, raith, then the BOD NEED TO GO BIG OR GO HOME!!! We are a shambles, youth is not producing, 1st team are not producing, BOD are not producing! Yes they may have invested in the past, but they aren't now, and while they are cutting back on output, we're still expected to financially input, it's not on, start again, and we can all get excited about SMFC's future!!

Reflecting on that performance tonight (and many other debacles) it was almost as though the players hardly knew each other. Aimless floated balls to no-one, no link-up play, and zero positional awareness.
I think the training system at the club is seriously wanting. The players can't defend (something that can be drilled in training), and our set-pieces are pitiful. It has been completely rudderless. To often players float off around 2ish at the latest during the week. What the f**k is that about? This is a full-time professional football club, allegedly. They should be getting kept at Ralston util they learn the basics and can string two f**king passes together.
Someone who can boot arses should have been brought in at the start of the seasons. Instead, it has been the old pals act, but no doubt with entrenched cliques and divisive loyalties. The BoD have been negligent in allowing this culture to develop, but the players are also to blame for their complacency.
The shambles tonight summed up everything that is rotten at the heart of the club.

This is the type of communication that many supporters want to receive. Just knowing that the BoD still seem to care is a big move in the right direction. Also good to see a young, popular Paisley born player issue a battle cry. Good start. Let's get behind the team tonight. COYS.

Free buses hmm interesting and a very novel idea ...now if their was a dinner with a speaker before maybe
...but then the dinner would have to start at about 4-00 to be finished on time to get to the game...no free buses are out....dinner on 29th May still on though excellent prices £75 +vat.
There will be a Month of the Goal competition to see who can remember when it was.

Indeed the board are "damned if they do and damned if they don't" and that's 90% of the reason why I haven't bought the club, that and the fact I've got no money to speak of.

No, a classic example of why they should have engaged with the support a good while back, utilising their very own website, and done it off their own bat - not doing it a day after receiving a well-worded message from SMiSA which appears to have woken them up enough to jot down a paragraph or two.
Exactly like fixing the missing stadium letter. Left it looking shabby for over a year - then some e-mails from regulars on here start coming in. Tommy Docherty - a ladder - some strong glue - thirty minutes. Boosh job done. How hard was that to achieve in twelve months?

There is a bit of dammed if you do damned if you don't about this statement , fair play but the fans have been crying out for reassurance all season.
We have been lacking leadership on and off the field , we aren't out of it yet but it will take some effort to turn our fortunes around, starting with 3 points tonight.
Its easy for people to forget but everyone associated with the club needs and wants St Mirren to do well. The board because they are trying to sell up for the best price possible and the players because it's their careers at stake. They haven't went out and intentionally lost, in eg same way the board didnt think TC would have been the disaster he was going to be.
We have still to play Motherwell and County 4 times, it's very much win or bust tonight. COYS

This is the type of communication that many supporters want to receive. Just knowing that the BoD still seem to care is a big move in the right direction. Also good to see a young, popular Paisley born player issue a battle cry. Good start. Let's get behind the team tonight. COYS.