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McPherson was a fringe squad player who has shown time and again he is at best a bottom end Prem / Championship player. The fact Fakes have lost Kerr and McCann and thought Cammy can fill that gaping hole is laughable. I have seen nothing in the years he has been around the 1st team to think he was improving. Also don't get the comparison with Ethan. Two totally different players.

Oh and the selling clubs manager will have had zero say in where a surplus player ends up, get a grip if you think Goodwin makes that decision.

Why do you feel the need to ruin every thread with absolute drivel? 
The thread is St Mirren trivia, not forum user trivia. Stay on topic 

Maybe not as he's more of a natural wide man. 
I'll tell you what though, Tony Andreu's first touch is absolute f**king filth, ridiculously good. He's going to be a massive player for us this season. 

Never heard of Liam Burt until now, but his name is an anagram of bum trail.

Reilly, no
Stelios, no. 
Reilly has been at this level before for a better team than we currently have and was not good enough. 
Stelios is a good attacking option but got defensively caught out constantly at the level below. The few occasions we did play Premier league teams in cups, it was embarrassing for the guy. 
These guys are gone, they should stay that way. 

This was a bad deal for the club but glad we can now close the chapter on this guy. We need players who have ability and the right attitude. Sadly he never had either. 

If this is in fact the case, we shouldn't be looking at anything lower than high end six figures.
Massively important player to us and if we do sell, it must be for a high price given that the buying club certainly have the resources to cough up if they want him.
None of this 'take 200k and run, he's only got a year left and we got him on a freebie anyway' nonsense.
 
I'd rather keep him for another year and use the time to source out a replacement than lose him for a pishy wee amount.

A lot of words, pure speculation of course, repetitive one-sided speculation
 
Your rant does nothing to address the only real fact that we can be sure of.  Six weeks ago (yes 6) speculation appeared in the press regarding our then manager returning to Coleraine.  As out of the blue as it was the speculation did not disappear.  Low and behold, with the job still open, Mr Kearney goes and falls out with our Mr Scott.
 
Now I do not know what happened but that 6 week old story has left me bloody suspicious, bloody suspicious indeed.

I’m getting sick f**king fed up debunking this myth that Belfast is less than an hour away [emoji35]

Have these people never used a f**king airport ?!?

Or alternatively , they are simply deliberately trotting this crap out to yet again have a cheap and inaccurate swipe at the club.

To summarise. Only a handful of people actually know the full story and absolutely none of them are on this forum [emoji849]

I take your point completely about quotes, etc (I was a journalist in a previous life and we'd never have run anything without a quote, and offering right of reply was compulsory too) - but I think that narrative does seem to be the most plausible of everything that's come out so far. 
 
As a human being with a wife and a young son, I can completely empathise with Oran. Hell, I pretty much refuse to even work late any more as it cuts into time with my boy. Hard to underestimate the strain that being away that much would put on your family as a whole. 
I think what we're seeing is that Oran has reached the end of his safety net - his former school wanted a decision either way, Coleraine had kept the job open but couldn't for much longer. Do you continue breaking your balls for your football career or do you continue with the life that you were basically enjoying just fine before St Mirren started sniffing around last summer? Money and renown aren't everything.
 
My views as a St Mirren fan may differ slightly, as follows... 
 

As with Stubbs, the decision should be made not only based on results achieved so far, but on what results are likely to be achieved in the future.
You keep writing that you "don't care about the commute."
Forget about the commute itself, it is about commitment and about the stability of St Mirren. Kearney didn't put an end to the rumours of returning to Coleraine last season because he wanted that door still open. He went away on holiday and said he wouldn't commit to St Mirren until talking to his wife. In the meantime our assistant manager leaves to join a lower league club.
Now I don't know exactly what happened this week but it seems he now wants to move the goalposts again.
He simply isn't the most attractive candidate to be manager any more. The best decision for St Mirren is to get him out and get a new coach in.
Meanwhile we have managed to secure the signing of Popescu by the team GS has put in charge, who are fully committed to the club.
I'm backing Gordon Scott 100% on this call.
And Coleraine are still sitting without a manager two months later, why? Oran aint a Saint in more ways than one.

After following the buds since I was old enough to run around Cairter's Corner, today is the day I bought my first since ticket. For one reason or another always just bought tickets as I went. Buzzing for next season already, let's see a few new faces in...and the new kit of course! COYS

After following the buds since I was old enough to run around Cairter's Corner, today is the day I bought my first since ticket. For one reason or another always just bought tickets as I went. Buzzing for next season already, let's see a few new faces in...and the new kit of course! COYS

After following the buds since I was old enough to run around Cairter's Corner, today is the day I bought my first since ticket. For one reason or another always just bought tickets as I went. Buzzing for next season already, let's see a few new faces in...and the new kit of course! COYS

After following the buds since I was old enough to run around Cairter's Corner, today is the day I bought my first since ticket. For one reason or another always just bought tickets as I went. Buzzing for next season already, let's see a few new faces in...and the new kit of course! COYS

I was taking this seriously until this. 

After following the buds since I was old enough to run around Cairter's Corner, today is the day I bought my first since ticket. For one reason or another always just bought tickets as I went. Buzzing for next season already, let's see a few new faces in...and the new kit of course! COYS

Bullshit. His contract was up and the Board decided not to renew it. Sacking is when a manager is dismissed within his contract period. If a player is released at the end of his contract do you think he has been sacked?
Danny's time was up but Board made a right f**k up by not replacing him with the right man.  The rest is history.

McIntyre was quality in his level of arseholery. He threw Neil McCann under the bus completely and McCann was nearly greeting in the studio. 😂

I recommend that we implement those exact rules for entry to the Simple Digital Arena

It is some months since I tread the boards of the Bull Inn.  A fine Paisley establishment that takes even I back to my youth.
 
Up until about 4/5 years ago I was considered a regular and all the bar staff knew me by name.  Even big Derek who was a M@rton supporter (well I suppose he still will be).  Lack of mobility sees me somewhat unable to attend New Street at all without a degree of difficulty.  As such I use a nearby bowling club (with a dodgy Amazon stick for the football) for my beverage and televised football needs.  I miss the Bull, I also miss the wee Howff and Paddy's as well.  Yes I know the Howff is still there but I am unable to get to it now so I miss it.  In any case after taking a prolonged break from a drinking establishment, going back is somewhat difficult as many of my contemporaries will be dead.  On that cheery note I shall move on.
 
The Bull is a really special pub as is the Howff (the market bar to men of my age). 
 
Of my many fond memories of the Bull I must say spending the evening of March 17th 2013 after using the finest football bus that was ever known to man to go from/to that pub was a special day.  Great pub that has serviced some great people for a great number of years.  As I think of the Bull I think of me and my dear old dad having many a pint together until I lost my favourite Buddie in 1967.  I remember my dear old mother sitting in the lounge with her mill pals whilst I strutted around the bar like the proverbial man about town.  I remember pals and bits of stuff alike, real characters nearly all of whom are long gone and I hope that in many years to come some young gentlemen is still able to look back upon a lifetime of memories as I am today based around the Bull (and the Howff/Market bar). 
 
 Here's to the Bull, to the Bull indeed.
 
  
 
 

Not too sure how I feel about this along with Potter being included. Samson done well for us, without ever being the reason for putting us up a level. Samson is the very definition of alright for a goalkeeper. I don't think a penalty save in a semi final pushes you into what is the elite of the club.
 
It all feels a bit tinpot just putting in players that won something. Rather than guys that made a proper impact at the club in increasing the standard we played.
 
Hall of fame players should be noticeable for being consistently outstanding, being the force behind delivering the club a major honour or being an outstanding servant to the club. I'd give an allowance to cult heroes but even they need to have properly delivered.
 
Edit to add in 20 years time, I very much doubt I'll be speaking about Samson. He just doesn't tick the boxes for me.
 
Another edit to add, it's ridiculous to add someone who's actually played this season to the hall of fame. Never mind quitting mid season.

I have been working in Northern Ireland this week . Today I was working North of Antrim up to Ballymoney ,at lunch time I dropped into a wee place called Bellaghy for a bite to eat . The guy serving me , hearing the accent enquired where I was from , when I said Paisley , next question was which team ... as usual !  When I said Saints, he looked surprised. “pop your head into that office over there and tell them who you support “ 
Turns out the guy in the office is an organiser for the Belfast youth football group who visited us a couple of weeks back , he was singing the clubs praises , said the youngsters were given the whole package and treated like kings . Particularly singled out TF for praise saying he had the young uns captivated with his stories and enthusiasm. The lads have asked if they can wear .St.Mirren strips next season !!  
At times it is  easy to become disillusioned with our club and sometimes things seem bleak  , but it’s good to remind ourselves we can occasionally do things right 
Well done to all involved. 
 

The current set-up in Scotland isn't a good fit for us. We are pretty much on a par with Inverness and Partick Thistle and will always sit around 10th to 14th in the overall hierarchy.
A 16 team league would allow for a sustained stay in the Premier and maybe a bit of freedom to make the odd gamble and push higher up. A 10 team league would allow us some time in the Premier, but more time in a Championship with a couple bigger clubs and therefore bigger crowds.
In terms of crowds and finances though around 12th or 13th is where we are.
We will therefore be a yo-yo club. I don't see a huge problem with that actually, as 2000 and last season were by far the two best years I've had supporting St Mirren.
Clubs like Inverness have shown you can have a few good years getting 2nd, 3rd or 4th place finishes, but eventually, you will return to more or less where your financial standing in the overall hierarchy is.
The "problem" for fans like a couple of the posters above is they don't seem to be able to accept where we are and therefore what our results are likely to be. It is certainly possible we could establish ourselves in the top six like St Johnstone, but to do that we need to increase our off-field revenue by approx 1m pounds as they have. I saw one poster getting very excited about the TV revenue from the new Sky deal. Had to laugh. It is a slightly better but still not a good deal when we compare to leagues of a similar standing in Europe (or Gary Lineker's salary for presenting an English highlights show). More importantly, it won't make any difference to our standing in Scottish football as other clubs revenue will also increase, wages will adjust accordingly, and the better players will still end up at clubs slightly above us. Money is illusionary, and that TV deal is of absolutely no use to us for winning football matches.
The only way to improve our standing in Scottish football to the point where we will actually enjoy being in the Premier League is to put ourselves at a comparative financial advantage over clubs of a similar size. Exactly as Motherwell and Dundee have done by cheating and stealing, Kilmarnock have done by having a rich benefactor willing to service their debt, or St Johnstone have done by building a successful revenue stream away from football activities. In our case this could be hospitality, accommodation, fitness centres etc. 
This won't happen to us any time soon for a few reasons;
- Gordon Scott isn't actually interested in doing it. (He'd have started by now if he was).
- Tony Fitzpatrick doesn't have the skillset to do it
- Campbell Kennedy is incompetent.
- SMISA don't have any say on the running of the club, and their vision extends to doing manual labour around Ralston.
The commercial side of the club has been stagnant for years, and probably performs as badly as our scouting operation which I believe for a club of our size is the worst in Scotland outside of Falkirk.
The only really well run part of the club has been the Academy under the leadership of David Longwell, without which we would probably be in League 1 by now. The money generated from the sales of key players was used to win us the league last season (alongside the performances of academy players). However, that money is not a constant, predictable revenue stream. We will probably bank a little from Kyle & Ethan and from what I understand that will be the end of it for a while.
So, to answer the original point raised, you might as well enjoy being in The Championship because that is where we are going to spend a lot of our time. There are advantages and disadvantages to both leagues, with home games generally being better in the Premier and away games better in the Championship. The Premier isn't that much fun though unless we can actually compete. This season, for example, is f**king murder.
Clubs like St Johnstone and Kilmarnock are operating on levels of turnover higher than ours, and will therefore continue to bring in better players than us. The best we can really hope for is where Danny Lennon got us to, 9th in the league and winning a national cup. Of course, Stewart Gilmour fired him mainly because the finances are so tight he thought it a good idea to remove the manager's salary completely and just get by with a coach and a couple of players running things. It was a woeful decision but financial stress sometimes causes us to act irrationally.
The biggest shame for me is that it would appear (and I may be wrong here, but I doubt it), that the 1m pound bounty from John McGinn's transfer will have been spent this season on a massive turnover of incompetent players and managers. This could and should have been used to bring in further investors to build the facilities that would allow us add the further revenue streams that we need if we are ever to put ourselves at a sustainable comparative advantage over the other clubs that look to finish between 3rd and 9th in the Premier League.
I do enjoy a day out to Ayr through.