lenziebud

Whats wrong with hating the OF. Every right minded football fan does that !. 

I spoke to a sensible fellow fan yesterday, whose opinions on business I massively respect.
He said in his experience Joint Ventures never, ever work because the interests of the two parties are never 100% fully aligned.
It's an interesting perspective as the power of veto pretty that both sides retain has pretty made the Kibble/SMiSA partnership a joint venture in all but name.
As I think I've said before I do not for one second believe Kibble to be a bad thing for the club, or a bad organisation.
Some of the people and practices they have brought into the club have made a very positive impact behind the scenes.
For me however the jury is very much out on the individuals they have in the boardroom though.
And to balance that out, I think the jury must also be out on the individuals SMiSA currently have in the boardroom too.
This has been a shit week in every possible way but the saddest and most alarming moment in all of it was the manager sitting there in his press conference two days before such a big game lamenting the negativity that the club has had to endure these last few days.
 

I’ve submitted a planning application to build an extension to my house which will involve building a significant part of it on my neighbours patio.
I’ve also put her as a co-applicant on the initial request .
 
When do you think I should let her know ? 🤔

Quelle Surprise. In face of overwhelming evidence that you, sorry, Mr Gillespie issued a statement that is untrue, you still "don't see how". Are the council - who have no skin in the game - lying?
You cannot fool all of the people all of the time. You have tried your best but the truth is out and it is undeniable to all. Every St.Mirren fan that I know who follows this forum - and there are quite a few - laughs at the mention of Bazil85 and his blind, unswerving loyalty to his Kibble paymasters.
I know that you'll demand the final word - as usual - but the game's up. The council have shot down in flames Kibble's version of events and I, like many, now look forward to what ludicrous defence you and Kibble put forward to misrepresenting the truth. "Deny, deny, deny", no doubt.
This is the first time on this thread that I've become involved in personalities but, in my defence, I'm frustrated by your predictable response, which insults the journalist, the council and the intelligence of we St.Mirren fans.
 

23519622.st-mirren-faces-court-action-leaks-ignite-charity-care-centre-row/
Surely the Kibble directors and the club board weren't misrepresenting the truth? Alas, Emails from within the council contradict entirely what we've been fed. So it seems, after all, that it wasn't Alan Wardrop who was misleading the fans. The Herald has seen, as have various others within the club, council e-mails contradicting the so called "official" version that's been peddled.
The council e-mails state quite specifically that "The Council assisted with the bid but the content was produced and signed off by Kibble in terms of the parameters of the proposal."
"In the ensuing row, an email seen by the Herald on Sunday from Mr Gillespie said that the council "wrongly shaded in an area of land owned by St Mirren" and gave a "categoric assurance" that club land would not be used.
As the dispute emerged, Kibble said Mr Wardrop's allegations are based on the "entirely false premise that there was ever any intention to build on land owned by St Mirren".
The Herald on Sunday can reveal that the council does not agree that areas of land indicated on a submitted map were produced in error and say the area earmarked in the application to Scottish Government was pinpointed by Kibble.
St Mirren's board insisted that the application was "unspecific" as to the precise location and that it was "not on land owned by St Mirren".
But leaked emails from council managers have told a different story - with a diagram submitted to the Scottish Government for public funding showing that land proposed to be built on was, in fact, on St Mirren land."
 
So, in summing up, first of all Kibble directors submitted an application naming the St.Mirren charitable foundation as a partner without their knowledge - a scandal in itself, which the board glossed over then, to compound that disgraceful decision, the Kibble directors submitted plans showing that the so-called non specific land was actually on specific land i.e. St.Mirren owned land.
In attempting to cover this up the board and Kibble claimed, in an e-mail sent to Smisa - that it was a council error whereas the council contradict that by saying  that the content of the application was produced by Kibble. No error by the council after all, they simply followed "the parameters of the proposal produced and signed off by Kibble". This contradicts what Mr Gillespie stated in his e-mail. 
It seems that both the club board and also Kibble directors have been, shall we say, economical with the truth. To add insult to injury and in an attempt to stifle free speech (i.e. AW's criticism of Kibble and not the club itself) the board then ban AW from the stadium?  I suggest that there are a few individuals who may have to reconsider their position.
 

Not so surprising if his wife and kids are still living just outside Sunderland which they were when he was in Dundee I think.

I don't think there's any "maybe" about it.

Without knowing him or anything about him, having watched his video I wouldn't touch him with a bargepole !
Waste of a forum thread

Without knowing him or anything about him, having watched his video I wouldn't touch him with a bargepole !
Waste of a forum thread

Without knowing him or anything about him, having watched his video I wouldn't touch him with a bargepole !
Waste of a forum thread

Two huge mistakes cost us anything from today. Really thought we would take something from that game. Dunne could have hoofed it out of play if he felt under pressure, but instead, he tried a pass back which was short. What on earth was he thinking the result of hauling down Kyogo was going to be for his second mistake? If he let him go the striker still had Carson to beat and Dunne could still put him under pressure. Even if Kyogo scored it is 1-1 with 11 men on the pitch and no further suspensions considering our injury list. As an experienced player he really let us down with his second mistake.

Sent from my SM-G980F using Tapatalk

hesgoal.com says domain seized so how did you see league cup final ?

This weekend’s fixtures. Hoping for….
Draw
Draw
Not arsed
Not arsed
Home win
Home win
 

Thought he was excellant the whole game. Really impressed with a number of the young refs this season. 

Yep i agree i think he interpreted it as 50/50 at the time, when you see it back on tv its a red. 
Still doesn't change my opinion of his performance. He's getting a good few Premiership matches this season which is a reflection of his ability.

Great result yesterday.  Can’t believe so many are grumbling.
 
We could have been well clear and created lots of good chances. It also wasn’t as bad a game as some seem to make out. Quite a decent amount of goalmouth action and we sprung a few good counterattack opportunities after turning over possession. Yes it would have been nice to add more goals but the result is the main thing.
 
The lad Offord did well enough. I think folk need to remember that these youngsters are kids, it’s a big step and they need a bit of time to give them a chance. I think coming into the second half at that age and even a few sprints. higher intensity at top level, with adrenaline all over the place, it’s probably easy to end up blowing quickly. He’ll get fitter and manage the game better. 

My mate knows this ref had him at boys club level said he was always pretty fair.

I also thought he had a good game today definitely did let game flow didn't try and be centre of attention like some(see Beaton's red card today).

Obviously red card was a missed call but in real time I'll give him benefit of the doubt but that situation showed VAR in a good light used exactly as it was meant to rectify a missed call by the ref.

Sent from my T671H using Tapatalk

You have to be joking. The boy near scored and, I believe, was fouled during the melee in the box. Right in the thick of things. NOT on the peripheral. Look. Not everyone who doesn't run around like a headless chicken is "not interested". This is a young man who has been thrown on when a team is tiring. He was NEVER going to be a one man show. I saw enough to see he's a clever player who looks to get between defenders and will, in time, score goals. 

for me he showed enough to think we have real potential in him. just needs to believe in himself at this level

for me he showed enough to think we have real potential in him. just needs to believe in himself at this level

I really enjoyed the game. For me good entertaiment value. Dominated the first half but different County in second half.
Ryan Flynn , top pro. That performance was credit to him

I really enjoyed the game. For me good entertaiment value. Dominated the first half but different County in second half.
Ryan Flynn , top pro. That performance was credit to him

I really enjoyed the game. For me good entertaiment value. Dominated the first half but different County in second half.
Ryan Flynn , top pro. That performance was credit to him

Thought he was excellant the whole game. Really impressed with a number of the young refs this season. 

I really enjoyed the game. For me good entertaiment value. Dominated the first half but different County in second half.
Ryan Flynn , top pro. That performance was credit to him