notabuddie

Should we be worried that our new chairman wanted to keep Gus as manager?
I've signed up on behalf of my brother in law

Should we be worried that our new chairman wanted to keep Gus as manager?
I've signed up on behalf of my brother in law

I said before I thought the meeting last week was a miss opportunity for the reasons stated by the previous poster above in the fact there was no clear business plan. Speaking to other supporters I think the issue might be with SMISA themselves.
From the beginning the message from SMISA has been buy the shares, get fans on the board. This is the same message that was presented there has nothing been put forward to say this bid works we have a plan to get a minimum X% into the club by year 3 or what ever.
In saying that the emotional attachment to the club maybe enough to get the bid across the line as that is what they are aiming at.

I think we may have equal roaster status on here in the eyes of others LP. I think over the past few years I've been far more tolerant of your views than many others on here, despite being frustrated by your oft used tactics of making a statement and then getting all defensive about it.
Since watching the video on Facebook of the meeting I came on here to comment on what looks to me like the lack of a clear business plan. There is nothing there at all to suggest that anything will be done any differently to how the club has been run for the last 17 - 18 years. That doesn't really inspire me to want to part with £12 per month, or £25 as I'm currently signed up to pay. I came here seeking assurance, and with some advice. What I've had from you is a post suggesting that it is putting the cart before the horse to have a business plan before bidding to buy the club, and then to follow up on that you've made a further statement that George Adam, an experienced local MSP, has had to go and seek independence advice on whether St Mirren's community activities are seen as being as good as other clubs. Those responses have me sitting with my head in my hands as you can well imagine.
I've sat with friends who are against fan ownership and I've listened to them tell me that in general fans are f**king idiots who shouldn't be anywhere near financial and business decisions being made in the boardroom of a company with a £multi million turnover. I've told them they were wrong. I've cited examples at other clubs where its worked and where the running of the club has improved massively - particularly around the way those clubs work in their local communities. Yet here I think you are proving me wrong.
I am a SMiSA member too. The committee of SMiSA have my full contact details. As has always been the case - even with the current board - if someone wants to talk to me about any area they think I may have knowledge or skills in then they know where to get me. As I've said I don't see myself as an expert on SEN's but I would recommend that SMiSA and Gordon Scott get familiar with the many examples out there - particularly Atlantis in Oban. And I would recommend that if they haven't got a good grasp of what benefits the local community can give to a club like St Mirren that they get out there are do some proper research by talking to the guys who run local juvenile football clubs and youth groups. There are many resources that could be shared that would offer huge financial benefits to both parties - it just requires a bit of common sense.

You post on here giving the persona that you are some kind of unofficial SMISA spokesperson. Yet when someone who claims to have signed up for a £25/month contribution asks in my opinion a viable question, you shout them down as a “roaster”.
SD has come up with a viable comment/query on the proposal. The current board has been rightly criticised over the period for under selling the club and not running it like a business. This lack of business acumen has resulted in them failing to sell their wares for 7 years and have also resulted in them having to sell it at half the original asking price.
SMISA had a meeting last week and had a meeting to sell their glorious plan to the public and they didn't. What they advised us and the media was that you have a chance to be part owner of a club FULL STOP. No business plan, no sound bites, no promises, no aspiration, no anything other than fan ownership there was no excitement that would make people take a chance and sign up and be part of something special other than the fans running the club. The meeting was in my opinion a lost opportunity to sell the opportunity to be involved in something special by advising what they were going to do to generate income for the club, open new renew streams, involve the community, make the club more in touch with the fans old and new. Your response to this is sign up and wait and see. They don’t want to promise things they can’t deliver (that’s how the current board run the club)
Your history of character assignation on here and the unofficial SMISA town crier role on here is putting me off being part of the process.
So a question to an official SMISA representative is “What is the business plan and what are you going to do different to the current board in running the club that will sell the club to a wider customer and what ideas do you have to involve the community and the town”
If i want to be involved in a fans ownership i want to know that my money is not going to a board that is the same as we already have.

Well I did attend 33 games this season he was slow he was bullied by most teams. I would imagine he is on the bigger contract I just think a younger defender would be better.
Then again his pre season was under Murray maybe under Rae it will make a difference

Well I did attend 33 games this season he was slow he was bullied by most teams. I would imagine he is on the bigger contract I just think a younger defender would be better.
Then again his pre season was under Murray maybe under Rae it will make a difference

Well I did attend 33 games this season he was slow he was bullied by most teams. I would imagine he is on the bigger contract I just think a younger defender would be better.
Then again his pre season was under Murray maybe under Rae it will make a difference

He is a good business man buys the club with a guaranteed buyer. Minimal risk.

I post on here because once you shift through the garbage there is quite a few informed posters and it does appear that this forum is a couple of steps ahead of the official site

I am not a life fan. I did explain when I joined I support football basically where I am working I follow the local team. This will be my 3rd time following St Mirren. Was I born in paisley no. I will support St Mirren or follow them until Nov next year then I will follow or support Bolton as that is where I will be hence my name
Any questions I raise is really from an outsiders view which a lot of posters on here do not understand or like.
When you challenge them to show where I have stirred up shit they disappear. Also as I explained to the single brain cell previously I use you/ us depending on the context of the post which is beyond his comprehension

I post on here because once you shift through the garbage there is quite a few informed posters and it does appear that this forum is a couple of steps ahead of the official site

The fact the bid is trying to get 40% of the fan base means that the majority of the support will be outside looking in very inclusive eh??? Nice message to send out... Add that to the fact that anyone who does not agree or is willing to support the bid it's all out attack.
People on here complain about the communication from the club maybe its the support that needs to listen to themselves about communication first.
I have stopped my brother in law from signing up due to the fact that there is no information in the public domain about how things might improve once the bid has control. All there is .. is talk about once we are in control we will be buying the shares from GLS err this is the same message being spouted by SMISA for as long as I can remember
The shares are the least of the worries how long in the championship can St Mirren last as a full time club??
Get control and get the message out there on how extra investment is going to come in and help the team get back up to be at the same level as St Johnstone,Kilie, Inverness, Partick, Motherwell instead of getting up then just looking up thinking that should be us.
Oh and yes I will be at the meeting tonight on behalf of my brother in law

Hambud that is what I was trying to get at something to show you are or were part of something
You provided another 2 or 3 different ways of recognition

I said before This could turn out to be a lifetime commitment if what REA says comes to fruition but then again its one of those questions that might be answered at the meeting next week

As long as he stays fit a solid player. Rae putting some backbone in the team.
Not sure he will be a direct replacement for Goodwin but will provide some protection for the back four

I remember watch st Mirren against Celtic and Viktor had Mcstay in his pocket for the full match. Then he got bored in the second half and ended kicking him all over the place
Mcstay spent more time complaining to the ref the he did trying to play.

I remember watch st Mirren against Celtic and Viktor had Mcstay in his pocket for the full match. Then he got bored in the second half and ended kicking him all over the place
Mcstay spent more time complaining to the ref the he did trying to play.

Nearly 500 sounds good but when you consider SMISA started off with 200 members that is only 300 outside the organisation that has signed up so far.
If I sign up does that mean I get treated like a shareholder? Ie do I get invited to the AGM and get a copy of the clubs accounts?
If you are automatically treated as a shareholder then that's an immediate benefit for any current non share holders
A member of SMISA on the board how much of a confidentiality clause will be put in place?
How do you stop other fans from other teams signing up to gain access to St Mirren information? I was told that this had already been attempted through the fans council but was stopped.
Interested to hear the thoughts on the above.
Just to add this is the most interesting thread I've found on this forum

Ouch
1 I am not a troll
2 I do not count myself as a buddie hence my name. I follow the local team where I am located for the record I have held 6 season ticket for St Mirren and 16/17 will probably be my 7th as I am staying in Paisley.
I do use you and us depending on what view I am putting across which is neutral as I am not as invested as some other supporters
My view on the guard of honour is my view from someone looking in from the outside

Ouch
1 I am not a troll
2 I do not count myself as a buddie hence my name. I follow the local team where I am located for the record I have held 6 season ticket for St Mirren and 16/17 will probably be my 7th as I am staying in Paisley.
I do use you and us depending on what view I am putting across which is neutral as I am not as invested as some other supporters
My view on the guard of honour is my view from someone looking in from the outside

Heard he is going to speak to Dunfermline on Tuesday. So you could end up facing him next season

It's an upgrade to a stand with a good tannoy system.

Yeah Thommo ran about like a headless chicken when he starts then when he does not start its Gallagher that is a headless chicken when will people wake up and get real does not matter who we have up front no service means they will be pish

Yeah Thommo ran about like a headless chicken when he starts then when he does not start its Gallagher that is a headless chicken when will people wake up and get real does not matter who we have up front no service means they will be pish