paul torfason

On a game like Sunday where midfield was essential, Foley flanked by Erhahon and MacPherson might possibly have given us the balance of energy and experience that we were crying out for.

I certainly wouldn't have expected Foley to be running around like a teenager... but I reckon he would have been willing to put his foot on the ball and direct the game.

I guess we will never know.

For first time in 40 odd year a honestly couldn't give a shit about arabs game:sick of Goodwin: sick of absolute anti football,sick of no shots on goal and sick that he cannot be honest and tell us REAL reasons behind Flynn and Foley not getting on park,because if it's to piss them off so they leave or are they one game away that automatically means they got clause in contract meaning extra season kicks in:tell us fans the truth as a said before if we started Flynn n Foley we would be in a cup final and our last 4 league games we have been horrendous and brutal on the eye so wouldn't expect any more changes to team as this is the guy that sent out same team for 2nd half against Livingston after one of the worst performance ever without making a sub or subs:time is running out for Goodwin and rightly so

The league stats are less "one sided" with us winning 6 from 21. 
We have drawn 5 and lost 10. 
Only scored 16 league goals but, as I have mentioned, we are healthy in the goals against stat, only conceding 24, one of the best in the league.
Aye, stats eh? 

For first time in 40 odd year a honestly couldn't give a shit about arabs game:sick of Goodwin: sick of absolute anti football,sick of no shots on goal and sick that he cannot be honest and tell us REAL reasons behind Flynn and Foley not getting on park,because if it's to piss them off so they leave or are they one game away that automatically means they got clause in contract meaning extra season kicks in:tell us fans the truth as a said before if we started Flynn n Foley we would be in a cup final and our last 4 league games we have been horrendous and brutal on the eye so wouldn't expect any more changes to team as this is the guy that sent out same team for 2nd half against Livingston after one of the worst performance ever without making a sub or subs:time is running out for Goodwin and rightly so

For first time in 40 odd year a honestly couldn't give a shit about arabs game:sick of Goodwin: sick of absolute anti football,sick of no shots on goal and sick that he cannot be honest and tell us REAL reasons behind Flynn and Foley not getting on park,because if it's to piss them off so they leave or are they one game away that automatically means they got clause in contract meaning extra season kicks in:tell us fans the truth as a said before if we started Flynn n Foley we would be in a cup final and our last 4 league games we have been horrendous and brutal on the eye so wouldn't expect any more changes to team as this is the guy that sent out same team for 2nd half against Livingston after one of the worst performance ever without making a sub or subs:time is running out for Goodwin and rightly so

For first time in 40 odd year a honestly couldn't give a shit about arabs game:sick of Goodwin: sick of absolute anti football,sick of no shots on goal and sick that he cannot be honest and tell us REAL reasons behind Flynn and Foley not getting on park,because if it's to piss them off so they leave or are they one game away that automatically means they got clause in contract meaning extra season kicks in:tell us fans the truth as a said before if we started Flynn n Foley we would be in a cup final and our last 4 league games we have been horrendous and brutal on the eye so wouldn't expect any more changes to team as this is the guy that sent out same team for 2nd half against Livingston after one of the worst performance ever without making a sub or subs:time is running out for Goodwin and rightly so

For first time in 40 odd year a honestly couldn't give a shit about arabs game:sick of Goodwin: sick of absolute anti football,sick of no shots on goal and sick that he cannot be honest and tell us REAL reasons behind Flynn and Foley not getting on park,because if it's to piss them off so they leave or are they one game away that automatically means they got clause in contract meaning extra season kicks in:tell us fans the truth as a said before if we started Flynn n Foley we would be in a cup final and our last 4 league games we have been horrendous and brutal on the eye so wouldn't expect any more changes to team as this is the guy that sent out same team for 2nd half against Livingston after one of the worst performance ever without making a sub or subs:time is running out for Goodwin and rightly so

That’s a couple of folk now said that Tait was our best player yesterday.
I’d agree Tait was definitely one of very few to come out with any credit, but I thought McCarthy was comfortably our best player, head and shoulders above the rest.
Consistently solid in defence and was the only one for me to make any real probing passes when playing out of defence. 
After being really impressive last season I felt he made a bit of a shaky start to this season, but for the last 2 or 3 months I think he’s been fantastic. 
 
Was also unlucky yesterday when generating arguably our only genuine attempt at goal. 

Its not just him. With no crowd you can hear the players, and we don't have anybody on the park geeing up our younger lads. Our captain is almost silent. Where's the passion?

Said the same , he knows we beat Celtic in the 2013 semi because we got in their faces from the start , yet we stand off a team who play hoofball all day !

Saw the whole match on Freesports earlier, although I had vowed not to watch,lol. Saints were pretty poor and up against a team who were far from impressive. Tait was our best player but Mason was hopeless, must get rid of him as he is on loan. Erhahon and Macpherson were poor and shouldn’t have been in the team. Obika, powderpuff, slow and rightly booked for cheating. Waste of time with him, a full season too late. Such a pity we couldn’t take the opportunity to get to a final but we hardly deserved it. If we don’t start picking up wins very soon, it will be the usual fight against relegation. I feel the team let the fans down badly yesterday. 

One man to blame and that's Goodwin: absolutely sick to back teeth of his shit tactics: and up to half time it was 3 games without shot on target:we could still be playing this morning and not scoring and us as paying fans(smtv and saints shop,amiss etc) have a right to no his decision not to play Foley or Flynn before Mason or Connolly or erhanon or macpherson: a put on radio after game and nearly threw it out the window a just cannot listen to him talk shit anymore: a was absolutely flabbergasted when he sent same team out for 2nd half so in his head he must have thought they was doing ok and how the hell Mason stayed on park so long beggars believe: and also think the st.mirren curse has hit brophy,we sign goal scorers then come to us and cannot score:sorry for rant but totally pissed off this morning and hurting like hell

One man to blame and that's Goodwin: absolutely sick to back teeth of his shit tactics: and up to half time it was 3 games without shot on target:we could still be playing this morning and not scoring and us as paying fans(smtv and saints shop,amiss etc) have a right to no his decision not to play Foley or Flynn before Mason or Connolly or erhanon or macpherson: a put on radio after game and nearly threw it out the window a just cannot listen to him talk shit anymore: a was absolutely flabbergasted when he sent same team out for 2nd half so in his head he must have thought they was doing ok and how the hell Mason stayed on park so long beggars believe: and also think the st.mirren curse has hit brophy,we sign goal scorers then come to us and cannot score:sorry for rant but totally pissed off this morning and hurting like hell

Both posts above absolutely spot on along with hundreds of other posts all over St Mirren fans pages/social media since yesterday but still we have happy clappers defending Goodwin.

I really couldn't give a shi# if we finish our highest league position in over 30 years i wanted to see us play in another national cup final.

Everything in the build up would suggest we couldn't possibly f**k this chance up(if Livingston beat us because they were far better on the day fair enough), Goodwin had captained us to success in this same trophy, we were playing the team that Stevie Wonder can tell you exactly how they play but to get the team selection so spectacularly wrong is unforgivable imo.

We picked totally the wrong team. The midfield two of Erahon and Macpherson? What was he thinking. Holt and Bartley won’t have an easier game. Pair one with Foley ? And if Foley isn’t up to it then why is he still here? I struggle to think that he wouldn’t have done better in there . Up front we picked Brophy who was at times the only man in the Livingston half. He was isolated and the team as a whole didn’t perform . Obika and Durmus made a big improvement and what I don’t get is that when we had some success in December it was from pressing teams and bei N in about them. Yesterday we didn’t do anywhere near enough.
 
The galling  aspect is that Jim actually believes we had a go. It’s as if the Livingston keeper played a great game had wonder saved and we did everything but score. Nothing could be further from the truth . The boys looked like the occasion got the better of them at times and we never set up to attack them and go win the tie.
 
We set up cautiously and within half an hour he should have been changing his tactics and personnel. He didn’t and obika sitting on the bench for over an hour is a joke. He is the one guy who has good feet and movement and he also scored a goal or two. 
it’s a chance gone to be in the last three of a National cup when your the biggest team left is the things dreams are made of. We won’t get this chance again and it hurts.
 
Finally Livi have say 1000 fans and don’t own the park. They have assembled a squad capable of going toe to toe with anyone in Scotland and yet saints can only dream of going on a proper unbeaten run. Don’t give me this only lost 3 in 17 etc. Beating qos on pens hardly counts . 
 
The team was set up not to lose yesterday and paid for it. It was the complete opposite of the semi final wins v Hearts in 2010 and Celtic in 2013. We simply didn’t turn up. 

We didn't lose the game yesterday on the park; we lost it on the drawing board. 
I find it hard to believe that our manager failed abysmally to recognise the limitation of Ernhanon, MacPherson and Mason's ability to confront the strength of the Livi side especially the current form of these players.  I'm not blaming the players.
The substitutions made in the second half was symptomatic of the realisation that the manager had made a huge mistake.  
I think the biggest impact of this result and the way it was lost will be on the morale of the players.  Those subs who came on will feel they should have been chosen for the kick-off and for most of the other players seeing that mistake, their morale will have also taken a hit while looking at the whole picture.  Our latest signing, Brophy; what will he be thinking after being subbed and who never received the service he should have got.  His morale too will have weakened.
I laid in bed last night thinking about all of this and I still find it difficult to come to terms with it.  
Given all the enthusiastic effort those fans made in decorating the town with our colours I feel truly sorry.
Come Wednesday if we get beat this will underline Goodwin's failure yesterday.  We are more than capable of beating Utd but not before their morale has been re-inflated. 
 

One man to blame and that's Goodwin: absolutely sick to back teeth of his shit tactics: and up to half time it was 3 games without shot on target:we could still be playing this morning and not scoring and us as paying fans(smtv and saints shop,amiss etc) have a right to no his decision not to play Foley or Flynn before Mason or Connolly or erhanon or macpherson: a put on radio after game and nearly threw it out the window a just cannot listen to him talk shit anymore: a was absolutely flabbergasted when he sent same team out for 2nd half so in his head he must have thought they was doing ok and how the hell Mason stayed on park so long beggars believe: and also think the st.mirren curse has hit brophy,we sign goal scorers then come to us and cannot score:sorry for rant but totally pissed off this morning and hurting like hell

The way St.Mirren played. Could played in heaven and we wouldn't have score. Shocking display

In our last eight games we have only scored three goals against eleven men. Two penalties and a goalkeeping howler.
This is an astonishing statistic. I think the sending offs in the St J and RC games have hidden how bad we have been.

I really hate to say this but now that I’ve calmed down I will. I think that Goodwin believes himself to be some sort of tactical genius and beyond reproach. He has an irritating habit of answering a question  by saying “ listen” then going on about how he sees the game which seems far removed from the reality. Of course he is a club legend for captaining us to cup glory but he needs to look in the mirror. He comes across as arrogant which would be fine if we were winning regularly but we aren’t.

Can’t quite remember all 6 games but presumably include: 
- Rangers - a penalty out of the blue 
- Aberdeen - a penalty 
- Motherwell - another penalty when struggling to show any real threat 
- St. Johnstone - a good comeback win, albeit against 10 men 
- QoS - we were rank rotten against lower league opposition. Don’t think we should be taking much credit for scraping a draw 
 
Softness is maybe the wrong word but we don’t know how to attack effectively or chase a game. The nature of those games that we have managed comebacks, considered alongside the many other games where we haven’t shows the problem. 
 
 
 

He has signed or played around 10 different strikers in 18 months and I absolutely slaughtered Obika first 6 of them but in last 12 months he has outscored the other strikers COMBINED total.

Only an idiot would play a national Semi final with your main striker on the bench.

Sorry, just because it’s becoming a familiar type of performance does not mean we should accept it.

The opposite.

We need to let it be know that we’re not happy about it and that it’s not acceptable.

Set up to be hard to beat with little or no plan to attack the opposition and score.

Brophy is not a lone striker.

We haven't scored a goal from open play since the 26th December.  And that was against 9 men..  
Jim has brought in 3 strikers this season and plays one and 2 left backs (one who is not very good) in a semifinal against Livingston.... 
Anyone wonder why we were under the cosh from the start and created nothing for 70mins