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  1. The Stephen Robinson & Diarmuid O'Carroll Appreciation Thread

    in General St. Mirren Discussion

    Posted

    32 minutes ago, Campsie Saint said:

    1/2 with bet.victor... not often the bookies get it wrong i am afraid. i did have the fear when robbo hardly celebrated with the fans after Sundays game... gutted... but good luck to him. Has left our club in a far better position in all aspects than when he came in

    Nick Montgomery was favourite yesterday and Neil Lennon the day before. Hopefully Robbo is just today's favourite.

  2. Viaplay Cup(League Cup) 2023/24

    in Matchday & Travel Club

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Warrior Saint said:

    Honestly got no sympathy for people who go and pay to watch these games then moan. Glorified friendlies with players not wanting injured before season starts. You know what you are getting to to Montrose on a blowy rainy day then moan about it....

    Think you’ll find the season started today. The fact the league cup starts in July doesn’t mean it’s less important than if it started in September. There are only two trophies we can hope to challenge for and we’ve potentially blown our chances in one on the first day of the season.

  4. Stephen Robinson

    in General St. Mirren Discussion

    Posted

    We literally didn't have to beat them to make top six, we were in the top six having not beaten them. Motherwell have won just one game since Boxing Day (against us of course) and they're in the top six.  You remember the County game very differently from me incidentally:
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    More posession, more shots on goal (27 ffs), more shots on target. We weren't great that night but if anyone deserved to win it, it was us.  We had two shots on target on Saturday by the way, the drop off has been unreal. 


    We might have had lots of shoots on goal but part of a good performance is the quality of finishing. Incidentally Jak saw it differently from you too https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19759584.jak-alnwick-pulls-no-punches-bleak-assessment-st-mirren-situation-amid-dire-run/

    As for not having to beat these teams to make top 6, we didn’t win the recent games against them and we’re not top 6. Of course there aren’t teams we have a divine right to beat but if you don’t beat the teams around or below you in the league top 6 isn’t going to be possible. The 1 point we took off the top three would leave us struggling.

    I fully recognise that under Robinson the performances, other than 45 minutes, against United have been dreadful but I don’t think we were world beaters under Jim. The difference is under Jim we were able to grind out results which we don’t look capable of at present

  6. Stephen Robinson

    in General St. Mirren Discussion

    Posted

    All subjective but when the new manager took over he played the top 6 in his first 7 league games, as I recall.
    All the "could have, might have" points posted by people who either have a soft spot for Goodwin, who I always believed was average, or have quickly decided Robinson is shite, are irrelevant.
    We are where we are.
    This weeks game is massive, even a point could almost be enough to see us hold off the dreaded play off place.
    No doubt a loss would see us really in the shite.
     
     
     

    Some of the teams in the top 6 are only there because they beat us.

  7. Stephen Robinson

    in General St. Mirren Discussion

    Posted

    The Motherwell game when we were winning till the 94th minute? County was 0-0 with nothing in it, didn't think either team deserved to win that.  None of the performances this season under Goodwin (apart from Dundee at home) were anything like as bad as what we've seen in the last month IMO.

    Motherwell and Ross County are teams we need to beat at home to make top 6. We were crap against Motherwell. Not that they were much better but we were very lucky to be winning and their equaliser was well deserved even if it did need a gift from us. As for the Ross County game Alnwick opening criticised the team for how bad we were. We only got a draw in that game because of the saves Jak pulled off.

    FWIW I think if Jim had stayed we wouldn’t have been great but we would have got a result from somewhere and scraped top 6.

  8. Stephen Robinson

    in General St. Mirren Discussion

    Posted

    He's on record in his interview at the start saying he wanted top six and Europe and we had a good squad of players. Hard to imagine him saying any different in his interview. Can't believe he said
    ' I know you're in the top six and unbeaten in 2022, but the team's pish'

    My thoughts exactly and yet there’s been a massive drop off in results and he very quickly and very publicly pointed the finger at certain unnamed players. In Robinson’s defence some of the performances before Goodwin left were pretty poor. Motherwell and Ross County could easily have pumped us at home.

  9. Stephen Robinson

    in General St. Mirren Discussion

    Posted

    You have to wonder what conversation Robinson had with the board about the current squad and his expectations for the rest of this season before he got the job. Given our position at that point I find it hard to believe he would have said they weren’t good enough and he’d have to overhaul the squad.

    Obviously I want Robinson to succeed as it means Saints are succeeding and part of me feels he should be given time to build his own team but another part of me is very sceptical about his ability to put together a decent team.

  10. Scott Brown as our new manager? Surely not?

    in General St. Mirren Discussion

    Posted

    All the chat about the trophies Brown (or any other candidate) have won is to an extent irrelevant. For every Mourinho or Wenger who did nothing as a player and were successful managers there’s a Neville brother who won everything going but were hopeless managers.

    Likewise experience only counts so far. There are some rookies who excel such as Dalglish but probably far more that flounder like Gary Teale. I say probably because a lot of these guys never manage again and are forgotten about.

    Appointing a manager is a roll of the dice and all we can do is narrow candidates down by what we think are important criteria then hope for the best. I believe their personal qualities and fit with the job are more important than trophies.

    Personally I don’t want Brown as he’s mine and many other people’s most hated figure in Scottish football for the last 15 years. Some feel that his aggression, not taking any shit and generally willingness to get it up people are positive qualities. Maybe for a midfield hard man but not for a manager. There’s been plenty of times I think his conduct hasn’t been befitting of a club captain never mind manager. Maybe he’s matured but his reaction to getting Kent sent of recently did nothing to make me think so.

    Incidentally if John Terry get linked with the job you replace Brown’s name with his for most of the posts in this thread.

  11. Scott Brown as our new manager? Surely not?

    in General St. Mirren Discussion

    Posted

    That's nonsense Andrew, No team wins every trophy they enter, when Ranger's were cheating their way to league titles with their David Murray millions and EBT's 2000/2010 they lost 6 Scottish cups and 6 league cups.  in their 9 in row when Celtic were in the grubber they lost 6 Scottish Cups 
    Knocked out by teams like Dunfermline  St johnstone  and Falkirk 

    You’re right that no team wins every trophy they enter but Celtic’s circumstances were probably unique during this period. They play in a country where there are two teams miles ahead of the others and had the luxury of their rival ending up in the lower leagues leaving no real opposition. Maybe winning every trophy was unfeasible as there’s always the chance of a shock over 90 minutes but they weren’t getting knocked out by strong Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs or Dundee United sides. They were losing to the likes of us, Ross County, Killie and Morton.

  13. Scott Brown as our new manager? Surely not?

    in General St. Mirren Discussion

    Posted

    How is this success qualified when the majority of his "success" was in a one horse race (no sustained challenge)? How did Celtic under Scott Brown's capatiancy fare in Europe during their 9 in a row seasons?
    When it really mattered (their supposed 10 in a row season) Celtic, captained by Scott Brown capitulated by a mere 25 points.
    Not for me as manager of our club.

    Agreed. Celtic should have won the treble every year Rangers were in the grubber but were regularly beaten by lesser teams. Not saying that was all Brown’s fault but if he’s going to be praised for winning the league then criticising him for their failure in cups and Europe is fair.

  15. The Jim Goodwin and Lee Sharp Appreciation Thread

    in General St. Mirren Discussion

    Posted

    Scott Brown wouldn't bother me. Could turn out to be a decent punt.
    A player that loves winning and hates losing, that has won everything in Scotland for years. Scotland International. 
    I'd be very surprised if Jim Goodwin knows how to set up a team better than he would. 

    As opposed to a player that loves losing and hate winning? Part of the Aberdeen coaching staff this season. How’s that gone so far?

  23. Latest Scores

    in Other Football

    Posted

    The treble treble is a great achievement but the media seem to be neglecting that many countries only have one cup competition. There's a fair chance Real Madrid, Barcelona, Milan and Juve would have won trebles if it were possible. As for the treble treble PSG must be in a strong position to achieve this going forward.

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