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The Original 59er

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  1. There were a number of really disappointing aspects of today's performance. 1. The tactics were wrong from the start, i.e. the team put on the park was wrong 2. The team gave away cheap fouls which played into the strengths of Livingston. They pumped balls into the box and looked for the chaos. 3. It took the management team far too long to see that their selection wasn't working. 4. There were players on the park especially in the first half, who shouldn't have been near the Hampden turf. 5. If you compare that team with the team that played Celtic in 2013, there was no comparison. We deserved to lose to Livi if you especially look at the first half. Fractionally better in the 2nd half, but no cutting edge and long balls all day long, which suited their tall defenders. If the players believed that perhaps this was their one chance to appear and win a final at Hampden, then they didn't show it. Really, really disappointed 😞 😥
  2. What I'm not quite getting in this whole debate, is the blatant breaking of the rules week after week by almost every club. It applies in England as much as it does in Scotland, and in a number of cases it is almost properly being observed, but in many instances it is blatantly being broken, yet the clubs are not being penalised. Furthermore it could most certainly be the cause of an outbreak which spreads to almost a whole team (e.g. Sunderland and Manchester City) and perhaps our beloved Saints. I refer to the celebrations after a goal is scored. I know it's only natural to celebrate a goal, but to hug, fall on top of, kiss, put arms around etc. etc. is a sure way to pass this on and it's happening before our eyes every week. Just have a look at Sportscene on Saturday (at Iprox) or Match of the Day (at Maine Road) and sure enough cuddles galore for the players who had scored a goal, both in England and Scotland. So does it take an outbreak and a cancellation to induce the SPFL and Premier league to act, or do they just ignore it until all hell breaks loose?
  3. Ginger Bread supporter sad after last night's result.😒 At least my daughter has a sense of humour!
  4. What I'm not quite understanding is that in every league table I look at, both Motherwell and Hamilton are credited with the points they gained through the SPFL decision, which is technically under appeal, which essentially makes these decisions and outcomes as a temporary position rather that a confirmed decision. Yet no asterisks or bracketed explanation at the bottom of each table!? I'm not suggesting that we may have to ultimately accept our fates, but the league currently should not be skewed by the decisions until it is completed properly, right through all appeal procedures. So that should reflect 6 points less for Motherwell and 3 less for Hamilton and also games to be played by all teams involved, i.e. two less for Motherwell & Saints and one less for Killie and Hamilton. Innocent until proven guilty and all appeal procedures are exhausted comes to mind. All I want is consistency, so the transgressions by all are treated the same way. As has been said before, how can relegation or a European position be decided by the inconsistent decisions of a Kangaroo court?
  5. My Dad also worked in the Bank of Scotland at Wellmeadow which was on the left hand side of the road coming away from the Cross which from memory was just about opposite Well St. He was there a few years, and actually suffered a heart attack in that office and died later the same day.
  6. This location has loads of memories for me right back to my early days of being taken to Love Street and lifted over the turnstiles. 👌 In these days we got pretty good crowds and often well over 10,000 would be at the game and as the game drew to a close, my Dad and I would work our way round to the Greenock Road / Caledonia Street end and when the final whistle went, we would walk (very) quickly, as I seem to remember, as quick as my wee legs would allow, and we belted up to the West End to beat the crowds and get on a bus before it got to the Cross. Quite a few years later, but still at school I went out with a girlfriend who lived in the West End area for a fair amount of time and I had to make several last minute dashes up to the bus stop (in the last photo), in order to catch the last bus home. Sometimes left it a bit late then had the ignominy of a fair hike home and irate parents who were no doubt awake in bed waiting to hear the key in the door........................ happy days. So, this bus stop has loads and loads of great memories! (and I even fondly remember the girl fiend) ............... and please no re-arranging words and meaning in that last sentence!!😉
  7. Ok I just knew I should have listened to you! a £5er on at that price would have certainly paid for a few things over Christmas......... Do you have crystal balls up in the east coast? So now I have a problem, having worn the lucky black & white boxers last night (having worn them also at the weekend and had them washed and ready for last night's game,) I now have to go through the same ritual to get them ready for Saturday, the B&W socks are in the same wash. Try explaining all that process to the better half and you can imagine my issue, It looks like a solitary washing process before Saturday!
  8. I noticed that in the papers, so I wonder what the English authorities are going to do, take a leaf out of the SPFL book, or go about it in the proper manner, investigate fully why it occurred, decide if it could have been avoided by the CLUB, then take appropriate action, be it a fine, some other less draconian penalty such a forfeiture, or exoneration?
  9. I have a real liking for Paisley Abbey. Nothing religious in that statement, just the beauty of the architecture, its place and positioning in the town and the peace and tranquillity inside. In addition I've attended a concert in there and the acoustics are superb. I was in the church when the Queen and the Queen Mother attended in 1963 on the 800th anniversary of the building (not quite the current one, but the formation of the building in the first place). So I do enjoy posting things about the Abbey, as it does hold a pretty special place in the years that I've known the town. So here are three from different eras and coming from different directions. 1. Coming from Gauze Street with Bank Street immediately on the left which essentially disappeared when the Police Office was built (I know that Bank St still partially exists but it is a bit lost on the other side of the dual carriageway at Mill St. Further on the left was the original Cotton St and on the right is Silk St. 2. From Bridge St looking back towards the south of the building. 3. From the other side of Gauze St, (a great photo) I think looking past the statue of Robert Tannahill in one of our famous foggy days, and yes I can remember when the fog almost appeared green!
  10. For those who have any interest in the history of the Grammar School, this is worth a read and it opened my eyes a little as I knew very little of the years before is settled into Glasgow Road. 7.1-Paisley-School-McKechin.pdf
  11. Not that it is a picture of real architectural beauty....................
  12. I know there will be lots of photos on here of Canal St Station, however I thought it was worth mentioning that this route went on from Canal St crossed over the main line at Johnstone then went down to Bridge of Weir, Kilmacolm, and on to Port Glasgow and the upper part of Greenock and on to Princes Pier. The line was closed for passenger services from Kilmacolm to Greenock in '59 but the line stayed open until '65. The services from Kilmacolm through Canal St and onwards to Glasgow closed in January '83. Beneath Greenock lies an old line which once ran to the Princes Pier Station at the now Ocean Terminal. It originally ran from St Enoch through Paisley and Kilmacolm however that part of the line closed many years ago. Surprisingly the rails are still in place which is probably as a result of it being used to run freight to the container terminal.
  13. This site really is worth a visit, if you were remotely interested in the Old Renfrew Airport and plane spotting....................... of course I would never have done a nerdy thing like that http://www.dhc-2.com/Renfrew Reflections.html My two greatest memories of Renfrew were both military arrivals: 1. A USAF Starfighter flew in. I think they were a touch difficult to control, however it came in for refuelling with its parachute braking system used as the runway would have been pretty short for it. 2. The second highlight was a the visit of a BAE Lightning. I saw it land and also take off. What was astounding was how it took off fast along the runway then vertical with engines red hot, hell knows how much fuel and tax payer's money alone would go into that manoeuvre!
  14. Whilst I have accepted that we have been at fault in the way that we handled the protocols that theoretically were set out, I also think that we have been treated exceedingly harshly. Jack Ross's interview was a fairly good external view of the position and if I was remotely involved with either Killie or Saints on this issue, I would say appeal and make sure you have good legal advice to back up your arguments. I don't fear additional retribution, that would be vindictive in the extreme, but the SPFL make up their rules as they go along and they wouldn't have done this to the Glasgow twins, Aberdeen or Hibs, so gone on guys, give it your best legal challenge.
  15. I wonder what made you an "idiot lunatic" or just a lunatic? Also you could just be an "idiot" or in the case of John White a school master aged 33 who was just "lunatic", or if he was driven mad by the place where he worked (no school names provided). Times were both cruel and unkind, given that Thomas McGonigle was just "deaf"!
  16. Like many other industrial towns of the time, Paisley had its workhouse. I'm sure life must have been pretty grim inside, but a by-product of an industrial working community.
  17. 1959 was a good year to be a Buddy......... In these days you had to have a striped scarf which you never really see that much nowadays, also you had the wooden rattle which I was told at the time came from the days of the 1st World war trenches to warn of a gas attack, but some of them made a real noise.
  18. A really interesting picture online from 1897 which I'm not going to load up onto this page due to copyright issues, but you can view it at: https://www.francisfrith.com/paisley/paisley-the-abbey-1897_39807 I can't ever recall seeing any picture like this before and it really sets out how the building looked before it was altered to today's current architectural form. If you then scroll through the pictures that follow this one, all from the same era, there are some great turn of the century pictures from the same source, all worth seeing.
  19. ok, I somewhat suspect that the chances of having the penalties rescinded are next to zero, but there will be a general feeling of being totally pi**ed off circulating the club, both inside and out. If the Manager ever needed anything to gee the players up and to get them to knuckle down and show the high heid yins what we are made of, then this is the perfect background. So JG, here is one very large excuse to get them going out there and show them all up, tell them it's a great injustice and that we will not be brow beaten!
  20. I posted a way back in a reply to Schull that there would be an almighty f*ck up somewhere along the road, and all it would take is one club to come to grief and the whole season would be a bu**er's muddle. It has all come to pass. Whilst I will accept the reality of the club being negligent, you are not going to tell me that out of all the other clubs in the SPFL they aren't doing the same thing as St Mirren or Kilmarnock, it just so happens they haven't had the covid outbreak hit them (yet) In an ideal world, you go and tell the powers that be that; "they can go f*ck themselves". I know that sounds like throwing the toys out the pram, but no-one said at the outset that breaking rules would make you lose games 3-0. They make it up as they go along that lot. Of course the Old Firm won't ever get hit as they have endless numbers of players they can field to make up the necessary numbers. I'm totally pi**ed off by this pronouncement to the extent that I'm losing interest in everything that is Scottish Football.
  21. What a load of sh*t. I've heard it all now. What happened to Aberdeen and their misdemeanours and would the same have happened to the old firm?........ like hell it would!
  22. ok, for just a moment, whilst it would be perfect to do the double over Aberdeen, and that's not something we do very often, if you had to chose just one win, would you rather have a victory in the League Cup game, or a victory in the League next Saturday?
  23. Where I had my first drink in a pub................. a little bit before my 18th birthday Pint of light was 1/7d, pint of heavy 1/8d, pint of lager 1/10d and pint of export 1/11d. These were the days you could have 4 pints, a fish supper on the way home and still have change out of a 10 bob note!😉
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