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The Original 59er

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  1. "Stokes is an embarrassment of an individual who wont get within a mile of our club." I agree, he is obviously a flawed individual who manages to upset dressing rooms and managers, but someone will take him and maybe get some benefit along the way ................ his career isn't finished, and some club somewhere will take him on and hope that they can knock some sense into his imperfect character / brain.
  2. Beat me to it.But that would be a good signing. Far too hard to manage by the looks of things..........
  3. Given the wild rumours flying around the pages on the 'unknown striker' that seems to be surplus to requirements at a Premiership club, why not add in the name of a player who has become incommunicado at Easter Road with his manager giving up the ghost with him........................
  4. I have watched Arsenal for years and been frustrated as hell in them trying to score the perfect goal each and every time. It gets to the point when you site there and scream; "For f***k's sake SHOOT"! Not often I agree with LPM but I would like to see a few games where occasionally we shoot on sight not just try and pass it into the net.
  5. In that regard Shull's point of spending £20 at any game is actually more lucrative for the club per game than a season ticket. Yes I know they like to get you to commit to all the home games, but if you don't buy a season ticket and spend the £20 why not have a code on the ticket for that day that allows you to look in at Budievision as part of the fact that you have contributed £20 to the club's coffers.
  6. Years and years ago I used to play on a Saturday afternoon at the racecourse and the game would finish around 3:30. Quick wash and change and then run / hobble/ crawl up Caledonia Road to get entry just after half time - the great thing was that after half time they opened the big gates up so you got in free. Always then went to the singing section in the North Bank. Never quite sure whether the gate being opened was to let the disappointed crowds in their masses to leave quickly, or just a generous gesture by the club? Either way Shull would have been delighted with the entry system employed!
  7. Good to see any player change his fortunes. It is early in the season however and also teams will start to mark him more force-ably if he continues with this score rate. Keeping fit and also keeping the supply coming will be the key feature as the season progresses. It would be nice to have a striker at the club who can contribute 20 in a season over a league campaign.
  8. Top 4 would be nice. It will be a league of dog eat dog and ICT have a very nasty habit of doing well, if not for any good footballing reason, more that it is a long day for any team to make their way up the tortuous A9 and then produce a result, so I would have them in the mix. Falkirk will be there or there abouts, and as said above Dundee Utd are likely to have the best squad and resources so should come out on top. If we carry our form from the latter part of last season into this new season, then hopes must be high for at least top 6 and maybe top 3. After that, it is down to the shake up at the end of the season.
  9. Could you please put a little bit of meat on the bone about the number of comments flying around about Jack
  10. Any position that doesn't involve us in immediate relegation or the battle with a team from the league below in the play off!
  11. Given Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan seem to allow hingin maybe we should apply to these leagues and play there, a bit like the bigot brothers applying to England to play in their league!
  12. What you seem to be relying on in placing your bet is that over a succession of several managers the team have been playing poorly, deteriorating and ultimately failing. Now I accept that as a generality none of the incumbents have / had a long track record but they had been relatively successful at clubs with very limited resources, yet they had managed to galvanise their troops into some success, ...............so each appointment to the Saint's position has been made with some hope that they can transfer that man management / ability into resurrecting the players on the parole in Paisley. Our decline has been overseen by a management structure that quite simply had lost interest in the club. They wanted out over a long period and that lethargy and malaise filtered its way down to the playing staff and I probably bet the toilet cleaner as well! So we are where we are and whilst I've never quite signed in to the fan ownership model as being the best for the club, you have to hope that the enthusiasm within any new regime will eventually filter its way down to the troops, but I think it will be a very slow process!
  13. Talk of new management is away off the mark, and actually muddies an already murky pool. The simple fact is we aren't playing nearly well enough as a collected bunch of 'supposed' footballers to match the other teams around us in the 2nd tier of Scottish football. The saddest fact being that Scottish football isn't that good either! The fact that our football isn't good enough isn't down to Jack Ross. I would bet that even if we had a Calderwood or a McPherson or a Lambert in there, the results would have been the same, put simply as a collective bunch or as individuals they either aren't good enough and they make simple mistakes, or they do just enough to suggest they are trying, but deep down a number of them are going through the motions. Who I feel for are the younger players being introduced into a losing, failing mentality. Where or how does that allow them to develop? Also is Shankland that bad that he can't get a starting spot? However I won't single out individual players as it is the team that is losing, not just one player or manager that is responsible.
  14. I would not look on the appointment of a motivational coach, or a suitably qualified head-shrink as being a mistake. There is obviously a real problem of low confidence to the point where they don't know how to get a result, they revert to boot it high and away mentality and they can't find the net....... even more so at home than away fixtures. I've said for some time that we have no confidence at home, in fact away teams like to come to Paisley as they know they will play on a good large pitch and they knock the ball about with a considerable amount more confidence than we can do. So yes, no harm in trying a psychological approach anything to break the bad karma that pervades our present home!
  15. Saturday was certainly a new low point........... in a series of recent low points! Why I feel that it is a new low, is that the quality of football on show was dismal in the extreme. The ball was in the air so much throughout the game that I thought the game should be called airball rather than the apparent description of where the 'foot' comes into play. They may have been rabbits in the headlights, but if that is the case it's so early in the season to have that mentality and with the fayre on offer, all I can say was that both deserve nothing other than dismissal from the SPFL. It pains me to say it as I honestly thought the players that had been signed this season had given us a better chance than the previous year, but that seems to be a real misjudgement on my part, to the point where I can say that watching paint drying is more fun that watching that team try and produce a performance, never mind a win................... and to think they want to charge us £20 plus travelling to have the privilege of turning up and supporting the team. To all those on this site, you will know that through thick and thin I have supported this team for a long, long time. I can name you players and teams from the 60's that were poor, but not this poor. I don't think I will be alone in thinking that we seem like an outfit that has already thrown in the towel.
  16. Maybe the problem for the boys at Ralston seems to be that the cones dribble past them!
  17. Problem was off screen the cones were winning 3-0
  18. Maybe glad 8,000 don't actively participate, it would be hard to keep up with the directions that each of the posts would take. My brain (which already gets frazzled by personal insults and random silliness) would surely go into meltdown. That having been said, SD's contributions would get lost quite quickly............................. that is, unless he himself upped his output!
  19. Yes, it's good to see him get an appointment like this. He has (had) bite on the field, and I'm sure he will not tolerate players who don't give 100% for the jersey as a Manager. I wish him all the best and hopefully he doesn't come back to 'bite' us too often!
  20. Good to see positivity filtering through to the B&W site................. it's amazing to see the Facebook Supporters' site at times where you get a plethora of negativity intermingled with posters who want to swear and shout at the team (and other posters) just 'cause they can. In saying that I think the Facebook site has something to offer. Kids, presumably half-controlled by their parents, have access and do post, and any aspect of support or encouragement to participate should be welcomed. Also it seems that there are quite a number of members who are foreign based, so maybe they find FB a better medium than this site which often disintegrates into a personal slanging match which goes off-piste all too often! Not sure of the number of signed up members in the B&W forum but the FB site has in excess of 3,300 members. So it has relevance and it pains occasionally so-called fans hounding others and also being sooooooooo negative. Many haven't got long memories or know what it is to be a long-suffering Saints supporter, i.e. take the rough with the smooth and continue with the faith. Hopefully they will learn and stick with it. I like your style St. Ricky!!
  21. I think the ground has a difficult visual problem. What I mean is that it seems the goalposts seem really difficult to pick out when you are on the pitch, hence the lack of goals from our brilliant lads in black & white! I suggest a big black board behind the goals so that they stand out all the more and with the posts and net in white they would be a much better target. At half time we simply take the board down to the other end of the park and erect it behind the other goal. There, sorted!
  22. It's a wonderful irony that the subject matter "Next St Mirren Manager" remains open and regularly re-visited consistently! Only 3 years and a month since the thread opened, any bets on how long it might run and to how many pages? We need stability in all aspects of the club. Board, Management, coaching and playing staff....... please give the present incumbents a chance!!!
  23. Strangely, I have put forward the argument at times for a few years now that both of the OF should field a reserve team in the SPFL and bu**er off to pursue their own dreams south of the border. There is a certain logic to it and it would open Scottish football up to allow other teams, Aberdeen, Hearts, etc, (and we can dream), of actually winning the Scottish league and then also competing in the European arena. There was another strong rumour recently that an Atlantic League may well now be supported by EUFA, so where, if that was allowed to happen, would it leave both the OF in the context of the SPFL?
  24. It could be said that as Saints supporters we are deprived............................... of a good football team that can consistently stay in the SPL!
  25. What makes a St Mirren Fan? It's a good question and one that is worthy of this site! I was born outside of the town, but dragged up and educated in it, so at the relatively tender age of 9 I was taken to Love St by my Dad (who was a Plastic Whistle supporter) and from that point on I was hooked. In these days crowds of 8 to 10,000 were commonplace with the old firm and the likes of Hearts, Hibs or Aberdeen pushing the crowds up beyond 15,000 regularly. Not everything in these days was rosy, there were the ups and mostly the downs. Bear in mind we won the cup in 59, then the next stab at domestic glory was '62 when we were beaten by the blue brigade and we had to wait until '87 to win another domestic cup. So a long time with many periods in the doldrums, and during that period my support never wavered. So what induced me to support Saints, when quite plainly both the old firm were being competitive in Europe, won the domestic leagues monotonously and at times played really attractive football. I suppose it was my cussedness to some extent by inwardly saying it's easy to support either of the Glasgow teams who were winners, but did I feel any association with them, or did I think that what they represented was what I wanted to be associated with? Div is right in what he says, we are at a relatively low point in terms of the product on the park. Will it get worse?........... maybe. Will it get better?.......... definitely. Some will argue that for some years we haven't had players on the park who played "for the jersey". The League Cup win suggests otherwise, but I would agree that at times I wonder if the players are always committed. I am a believer that a team of middle ranking players can be knocked into shape as a team and become a difficult team to beat and at present that is what I'm hoping for. You might also argue that with the youth set up we have a number of younger players might grow into a team with an affinity to Saints, but in these days, most will see their involvement with SMFC as a stepping stone to a better grade and lifestyle. The best we can hope for is honest endeavour and bringing their skill to the park and demonstrating they are good players and worthy of a chance at a higher level. If we benefit along the way, so much the better. Yes we all get frustrated at poor football, negative tactics and a lack of endeavour. The Manager is responsible for changing that, utilising the players to the best of their abilities and instilling camaraderie and a desire to work hard.............. if any Manager can't bring that to his desk each day, then he is failing in his approach. Do I believe that AR has it, I suppose my answer is I'm not sure. What I've seen this season, suggests they haven't gelled, yet in theory it is a better squad than last year. Can he turn it around, yes he can, as all managers can, all it takes are two or three results. So encapsulated within the post is what makes a fan.................. a liking for the sport, perhaps an understanding parent, an association (no matter how thin), occasional bright spots, having a thick skin, and an injection of an unknown drug that makes you turn up through thick and thin and still shout for your team.
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