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zico

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  1. 25 minutes ago, munoz said:

    Peter Crouch, Michail Antonio, Ashley Williams, Joe Hart, Charlie Austin, Troy Deeney, Chris Smalling, Les Ferdinand, Rickie Lambert, Kevin Phillips.

    Ayrshire Saint will be along in a minute to ask us if we seriously think these guys were / are better than Gavin Reilly! :lol:

    Stu will be along soon to compare them with Kyle Hutton! :wacko:

  2. 4 minutes ago, nedflanders123 said:

    My point is that AS is getting pilloried by LB for his role at Rotherham (we know the Hibs situation).  I know Paul L had success but my point was that even some of the best  managers fail at certain clubs (Paul latterly).  AS has the gig and will be judged on how he does.

    I know what your point was. Just pointing out that adding Lambert to the list didn't help your point!

  3. 12 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said:

    I didn't ask that I asked about players moving from that level to prem here - they will be few and far between as clearly you can't name one !

    You asked "is anyone seriously suggesting a guy from tier 6 in England will be better than Reilly?".

    I merely pointed out that Jamie Vardy came from the 7th tier in English football and is clearly better than Gavin Reilly!

    Not sure the relevance of there not having been many players move from the 6th tier of English football to the Scottish Premiership and how that means the guys we have signed won't be as good as Gavin Reilly?

    Motherwell signed guys from the 5th tier of English football and they turned out to be stars.

  4. 4 minutes ago, nedflanders123 said:

     Lennon and Strachan were failures down South as were Lambert, MacLeish, Davies, McInnes, Yogi, Nielsen.  

    Lambert won 2 successive promotions with Norwich, taking them from League One to the Premiership and keeping them there. He had 3 seasons at Aston Villa. He saved both Blackburn and Wolves from relegation, knocking out Liverpool at Anfield in the FA Cup in the process. He's earned £ millions in the course of managing 7 clubs in England.

    Hardly a failure!

  5. 8 minutes ago, kevo_smfc said:

    I know it's a different era, though think of the names that Saints signed from the juniors most notably in the 70s. It doesn't matter what level you have been playing at, plenty of players fall into the wilderness or have just not found that opportunity yet. This Jamie Vardy lad is an ambassador for this type of scenario. Even Ian Wright I remember was playing Evostick or similar level until the age of 22 before Crystal Palace signed him. The rest is history.

    Ian Wright was playing Sunday league football before joining a team in the Kent League (equivalent of 10th tier in English football). He played 6 matches there before joining Crystal Palace.

    Going by Ayrshire Saint's logic, he would only have had a fraction of the ability of Gavin Reilly. :wacko:

     

  6. 12 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said:

    I can't recall any Prem team having had success with players from such a low standard as tier 6 in England - enlighten me ?

    The boy from Truro is 24 - he has had 6 years plus for his talent to have been "discovered".  I really hope I'm wrong but I just can't see guys from that level being good enough to establish us in the top division.  I agreed with the Reilly decision but is anyone seriously suggesting a guy from tier 6 in England will be better than Reilly or for that matter Davis ?

    Jamie Vardy was in the 7th tier of English football just 12 months before Leicester "discovered" his talent at the age of 25.

    Are you seriously suggesting that Gavin Reilly is better than him? :rolleyes:

  7. 3 minutes ago, Magic Monkey said:

    I think we need to be signing players who've played at least 209 games in the top two tiers of Scottish football.

    That's precisely what Kevin Twaddle had, btw.

    Andy Dow, 181 games in the top flight with clubs such as Chelsea, Hibs & Aberdeen. Only 29 when he joined us as well.

    Stuart Carswell, 86 games in the top flight with Motherwell.

     

  8. Would rather the main criteria for brining in a player was ability rather than "experience"!

    As someone else pointed out, Gary Harkins had top flight experience when we signed him!

    Samson, both McGinns, Eckersely, Mackenzie, Flynn and Smith all have top flight or top flight equivalent experience so we're not exactly lacking!

  9. So roughly 1 in 3  compared to 1 in 4 in favour of Reilly and that includes two seasons were he was supposedly rank!


    Not sure how the fact that Reilly’s goalscoring record is a bit better than Mullen’s would justify us keeping him rather than trying to sign someone better?

    Also, Mullen had played on the wing or as a no. 10 a lot of the time unlike Reilly.

    Mullen gives us cover across any of the 4 forward positions.

    Reilly didn’t score enough goals in the Championship last season to justify being our main striker in the top flight. He’s a championship standard striker who did a job.

    We need better now.
  10. You said we are playing one up front next season & Jack Ross is responsible


    I said he “was” responsible in reply to your “were playing one up front”. [emoji12]

    Regardless, playing one central striker is pretty standard these days. I think we have a class no.10 in Cammy Smith so, IMO, we’ll play one up front.

    Just my opinion.
  11. Would prefer not to have a sin bin but if it continues to exist and be used to discipline "abusive or unreasonable" posters


    If that were the purpose then why are folk like pozbaird and cockles not in it?

    Pozbaird is probably the most abusive poster on the forum and even posts racist jokes.

    Cockles has threatened violence on more than one occasion.

    Both should have been banned a long time ago.
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