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    lovestlegend reacted to Sonny in Kibble/SMiSA Partnership Proposal (Merged)   
    I think it is quite insulting to describe the 91.6% as 'gullible'.
    As with all major decisions in life - getting married, getting a new job, having children, buying a house, moving abroad, buying a car or a business arrangement - there are no accompanying 50 pages of cast iron guarantees in your favour covering any perceived eventuality you can dream up.  You are attracted to an idea then you investigate and get as many answers as possible and from the correct sources (not a forum) then you go with your gut instinct and if it feels right you go ahead and try to make it work. Things do not always work out the way you would want however they may turn out better and the best thing you had ever done. Its about trusting in yourself and those that you enter into the agreement with. Because you do not get the 50 pages of guarantees that suit you does not mean you are gullible. It is an informed decision.
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    lovestlegend reacted to div in Kibble/SMiSA Partnership Proposal (Merged)   
    And fair play to you for that.
    The only thing that surely binds all of us is a desire to see the club be the best it can be on and off the park.
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    lovestlegend reacted to Sonny in Kibble/SMiSA Partnership Proposal (Merged)   
    Aye. There is a great delusion that somehow Black & White Army Forum represent the fans. When the number of posters used to be displayed at the bottom of the page there was usually only around 100 people logged on during a live match. On non-match days the number was significantly less - often in the teens. And this thread shows that only a few people actually get involved. There may be a lot of 'members' of the Forum but many are dead accounts and many simply no longer post or use the site to gain information and not get involved. Out of the many fans I know I am the only one that posts on here. Only one other has an account. Considering we have around 4,200  regularly attending games then this forum is very insignificant to gauge what the fans think.
     
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    lovestlegend got a reaction from smcc in Kibble/SMiSA Partnership Proposal (Merged)   
    This is why I’ve voted in favour. I get the impression there is an apathy among the SMISA membership to get involved and make a direct contribution. If it got to 2026 and we were looking for folk to step up then I think it would be the same story. This way we get control but aren’t reliant entirely on SMISA to drive commercial streams.
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    lovestlegend got a reaction from FTOF in Kibble/SMiSA Partnership Proposal (Merged)   
    This is why I’ve voted in favour. I get the impression there is an apathy among the SMISA membership to get involved and make a direct contribution. If it got to 2026 and we were looking for folk to step up then I think it would be the same story. This way we get control but aren’t reliant entirely on SMISA to drive commercial streams.
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    lovestlegend got a reaction from sally02 in Kibble/SMiSA Partnership Proposal (Merged)   
    This is why I’ve voted in favour. I get the impression there is an apathy among the SMISA membership to get involved and make a direct contribution. If it got to 2026 and we were looking for folk to step up then I think it would be the same story. This way we get control but aren’t reliant entirely on SMISA to drive commercial streams.
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    lovestlegend got a reaction from cockles1987 in Kibble/SMiSA Partnership Proposal (Merged)   
    This is why I’ve voted in favour. I get the impression there is an apathy among the SMISA membership to get involved and make a direct contribution. If it got to 2026 and we were looking for folk to step up then I think it would be the same story. This way we get control but aren’t reliant entirely on SMISA to drive commercial streams.
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    lovestlegend reacted to Sonny in Kibble/SMiSA Partnership Proposal (Merged)   
    I seem to remember that SMiSA members were asked about their skillset and willingness to be up for election for the St Mirren Board. Response was very poor hence I suspect this led to the current SMiSA Committee stating 'We have a partnership with someone who can be a vehicle to make the Club bigger and better than what it can be if it is just us on our own'.
    Does the SMiSA fanbase have enough people with a skillset to run a business with a multi-million turnover and are willing to do it for nothing? I do not know but it does not look like it has based on the numbers volunteering at the last election and the poor response to voting and attending meetings by SMiSA members.
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    lovestlegend reacted to friskysteed in Kibble/SMiSA Partnership Proposal (Merged)   
    Blimey, it’s hard reading through this topic. I’ve done it to try and help me come to a decision on how to vote. I’ve also watched the video of the meeting and read the original proposal.
    Initially, I was a bit skeptical on SMISA having less shares than originally promised and also not knowing too much about Kibble.
    So what have I gleaned from all this, well, from what I can see is that most SMISA members, like myself and my wife don’t really do much more than pay our subs and vote on the £2 spend. And we do that because we want fan ownership, to never have some fly by night come in and destroy our club. We don’t have much more input than that due to having many other commitments for our time. It seems most don’t. Which is why SMISA might struggle to find many willing and able people to run the club once fan ownership is realised.
    Kibble, a local charity, look like a well run company and being a charity, I doubt will try to destroy us for their own benefit (even if that was possible with a minority share). But, as SMISA members, we would act to stop them doing so if that was the case. 51% is the magic number.
    Personally, I don’t know any current board members, SMISA or otherwise. But I trust them to run our football club. Mistakes have been and will continue to be made. The same has to go for the ones Kibble would appoint. We have to trust that they will do what they think is best for SMFC as they will be a part of it (again, I reiterate, a minority part). But I do think they will at least be capable of helping to run our club, and probably bring a good level of experience and professionalism to the table.
    We are all taking a leap of faith in the BtB scheme to help secure the future of our club and I for one am happy to hold hands with Kibble and leap together.
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    lovestlegend got a reaction from St.Ricky in Livingston v St Mirren, Wed 12th Feb   
    Northbank boycotting the game over ticket prices. Good one to miss I’d say. But hopefully doesn’t affect the team’s performance.
     
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    lovestlegend got a reaction from turrabuddie in Livingston v St Mirren, Wed 12th Feb   
    Northbank boycotting the game over ticket prices. Good one to miss I’d say. But hopefully doesn’t affect the team’s performance.
     
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    lovestlegend reacted to kevo_smfc in Kibble/SMiSA Partnership Proposal (Merged)   
    Have you never given it thought that in the time of building a business, you see room for improvement or alternative ways of generating additional income in that period of time? There is always room for change for the better.
    Buy the buds is 4 years in and within that time, like any business I am sure there have been may learning curves, just like GS when he took the chairmans role has learned a far deal greater than he did before about the running of a football club.
    The club will STILL be fan owned regardless if the Kibble proposal is approved or not. Kibble are not here to take over, they are here to help generate extra revenue whilst boosting their own profile. As you are very aware, SMISA itself is run by many volunteers who already have full-time jobs elsewhere and dedicate a large chunk of their time to the association. Something I think that at times, these people get very little credit for. 
    I know I am explaining points that you already know and will result in a negative reply, as you have nothing positive to say about either SMISA, Kibble, GS or St. Mirren Football Club in general. 
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    lovestlegend reacted to div in Kibble/SMiSA Partnership Proposal (Merged)   
    Yeah, sorry, I’m not sure where I got the idea that you didn’t like Gordon Scott from. I’ll take that back 😂
    As far as I can see the SMiSA committee are asking the members to decide on the proposal. If the members don’t back it, then it doesn’t happen.
    I think this is called democracy.
    The committee believe this proposal enhances BTB. It’s up to the members to decide if they agree or not. 
    That’s how this is supposed to work.
     
     
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    lovestlegend reacted to div in Kibble/SMiSA Partnership Proposal (Merged)   
    Let’s not forget that Kibble are also saving SMiSA members £300K, an average of £250 a head.
    We probably also shouldn’t overlook the fact that as 51% shareholders, SMiSA will have the majority shareholding of the football club, and thus the football club will be, by definition, “fan owned”. By the end of next year.
    And its maybe worthwhile remembering that we get the benefit of the expertise and infrastructure of a 140 year old organisation who have a turnover 10 times the size of the club, working with us.
    And we get all of this, with a partner who is not driven by profit, but rather one that exists to help young people develop and prosper.
    Blind? Blinded by a personal grudge with the chairman I’d say.
     
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    lovestlegend got a reaction from BuddieinEK in Saint Mirren v Motherwell Cup   
    McGrath was quiet the other night but his best position is centrally. Worth a look.
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    lovestlegend reacted to aldo_j in Kibble/SMiSA Partnership Proposal (Merged)   
    The last few pages are absolutely f**king brutal reading.
    Can three or four of them be put in the sin bin? Maybe rename it the ‘Spin Bin’ as that’s all they shout at each other. 
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    lovestlegend got a reaction from East Lothian Saint in Kibble/SMiSA Partnership Proposal (Merged)   
    Contacted SMISA to ask and there is no vote at the meeting. It’s being done online next week.
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    lovestlegend got a reaction from smcc in Kibble/SMiSA Partnership Proposal (Merged)   
    Contacted SMISA to ask and there is no vote at the meeting. It’s being done online next week.
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    lovestlegend got a reaction from bazil85 in Kibble/SMiSA Partnership Proposal (Merged)   
    Contacted SMISA to ask and there is no vote at the meeting. It’s being done online next week.
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    lovestlegend got a reaction from faraway saint in Kibble/SMiSA Partnership Proposal (Merged)   
    Contacted SMISA to ask and there is no vote at the meeting. It’s being done online next week.
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    lovestlegend got a reaction from Lord Pityme in Kibble/SMiSA Partnership Proposal (Merged)   
    Contacted SMISA to ask and there is no vote at the meeting. It’s being done online next week.
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    lovestlegend reacted to cockles1987 in Kibble/SMiSA Partnership   
    My understanding is that some members had still to register with the new system. Rather than new members registering.
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    lovestlegend reacted to alanb in Kibble/SMiSA Partnership   
    Got my reply...
    Vote will be same as a normal SMISA vote via Very Connect system which has recently seen an upturn in registrations
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    lovestlegend reacted to Stu in SMISA/ Kibble proposed BTB changes   
    Looking forward to a sensible, rational, grown-up debate on these proposals. Anyone know of a forum where I'm likely to find that?
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    lovestlegend reacted to kevo_smfc in Speculation Thread   
    We received around £25k for Jason Naismith when Ross County wanted to bring him in early after agreeing a pre-contract. I would expect something similar, though a bonus if we do get more, as we are not exactly in a position to release a consistent great performer without there being something in return for it.
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