Stegman

Durmus thats doesnt really track back thus the change to Mason. Well thought out Erahon been a stand out recently one indifferent moment 

Bullshit, well seen you don’t attend many games.

Bullshit, well seen you don’t attend many games.

Bought mine yesterday, can’t wait for the season to ko. Don’t care if it’s next year, club needs money, I’m a supporter and can afford a couple of hundred quid. Saved a fortune WFH over the last few months in petrol, eating out, booze.....happy days[emoji846]

Bought mine yesterday, can’t wait for the season to ko. Don’t care if it’s next year, club needs money, I’m a supporter and can afford a couple of hundred quid. Saved a fortune WFH over the last few months in petrol, eating out, booze.....happy days[emoji846]

Bought mine yesterday, can’t wait for the season to ko. Don’t care if it’s next year, club needs money, I’m a supporter and can afford a couple of hundred quid. Saved a fortune WFH over the last few months in petrol, eating out, booze.....happy days[emoji846]

Hardly a divide: there's a load of normal folk, and some utter f**king loons.

I see it as a win-win deal where both parties get benefits. We are not selling off St Mirren assets (office space or facilities) but working together to maximise and improve their use. The benefit to SMFC is the extra revenue will be made available for the manager to strengthen the team, for Kibble the get the benefit of having access to employment opportunities for their young people thus giving them wider exposure to real working environments. By financial investment they are demonstrating that they are committed to making the partnership work, in return have minority voice on the board. This is all explained in the video which I’m sure will answer all the questions people have.

You are correct in that “expertise and talent” that the likes of Kibble can provide are and will be required when full fan ownership is reached particularly to take us to the next level. This has always been a slight concern to me about fan ownership; once complete did the fans have the correct people with the right skills, experience and time to take the club forward? Who would I like to see provide that? A sugar daddy businessman who would want profit share/payback on any investment? A foreign partner with no particular local attachment to Paisley or St Mirren? Or a long standing, local charity with commercial know how (turnover £32M), large resources in terms of staff and facilities, with a sound ethical and moral values. If you were to hand pick a partner then you couldn’t to my mind chose a more appropriate one.

I attended last night and was 80% decided that the deal was right for the club. I now am totally convinced that it is and will vote that it is accepted. I cannot think of any downside only positives and hope that most people will see the same. Congratulations must go to all those involved at SMISA for the effort to date and to the board for the obvious work done to bring a well thought through proposal to the table.

Yes you’ve interpreted it correctly that the attraction for me is they’ll bring expertise to the party.......as well as resources, business acumen, sustainable business model, contacts that the club will be able to benefit from, fresh ideas, energy and also be a partner that we can I hope all agree on are morally and socially responsible. Oh and SMISA will still be the majority shareholder and in the unlikely event that Kibble decide ever to part ways with the club then are legally bound to offer SMISA first dibs on buying their shares back, or even gifting them to SMISA for free. Kibble won’t charge the club for services they provide and are not in for profit as they are a charity.

I could be missing something but I can’t see a downside despite looking long and hard for one. I understand there will be some who don’t share my view and then they should vote against the deal.

Yes you’ve interpreted it correctly that the attraction for me is they’ll bring expertise to the party.......as well as resources, business acumen, sustainable business model, contacts that the club will be able to benefit from, fresh ideas, energy and also be a partner that we can I hope all agree on are morally and socially responsible. Oh and SMISA will still be the majority shareholder and in the unlikely event that Kibble decide ever to part ways with the club then are legally bound to offer SMISA first dibs on buying their shares back, or even gifting them to SMISA for free. Kibble won’t charge the club for services they provide and are not in for profit as they are a charity.

I could be missing something but I can’t see a downside despite looking long and hard for one. I understand there will be some who don’t share my view and then they should vote against the deal.

taking your analogy...
You've ordered a new car - , you've paid a deposit up front, about £20, It'll cost you £71 eventually, but you are aware you don't get delivery of it yet for at least another 6 years sir? and you are aware there are a few aspects of the car we're still trying to work out how to operate, like the brakes and headlights, steering wheel seems ok though. It'll be alright though when we deliver it to you - we're sure of that, of that you can be guaranteed 🙂
A while later...
Sir, you know that car you've ordered, not due for another few years - we know you really like it. Well there's an opportunity for us to deliver it to you sooner. We've found a solution for the brakes and headlights and actually the steering is much better than before and you'll not believe this - it will cost you a lot less, only £51, Sir.
How does that sound?
Of course you are entitled to cancel your order, but I'm afraid sir you won't be entitled to your deposit back!

Kibble services will be free to the club

I see it as a win-win deal where both parties get benefits. We are not selling off St Mirren assets (office space or facilities) but working together to maximise and improve their use. The benefit to SMFC is the extra revenue will be made available for the manager to strengthen the team, for Kibble the get the benefit of having access to employment opportunities for their young people thus giving them wider exposure to real working environments. By financial investment they are demonstrating that they are committed to making the partnership work, in return have minority voice on the board. This is all explained in the video which I’m sure will answer all the questions people have.

You are correct in that “expertise and talent” that the likes of Kibble can provide are and will be required when full fan ownership is reached particularly to take us to the next level. This has always been a slight concern to me about fan ownership; once complete did the fans have the correct people with the right skills, experience and time to take the club forward? Who would I like to see provide that? A sugar daddy businessman who would want profit share/payback on any investment? A foreign partner with no particular local attachment to Paisley or St Mirren? Or a long standing, local charity with commercial know how (turnover £32M), large resources in terms of staff and facilities, with a sound ethical and moral values. If you were to hand pick a partner then you couldn’t to my mind chose a more appropriate one.

I attended last night and was 80% decided that the deal was right for the club. I now am totally convinced that it is and will vote that it is accepted. I cannot think of any downside only positives and hope that most people will see the same. Congratulations must go to all those involved at SMISA for the effort to date and to the board for the obvious work done to bring a well thought through proposal to the table.

I see it as a win-win deal where both parties get benefits. We are not selling off St Mirren assets (office space or facilities) but working together to maximise and improve their use. The benefit to SMFC is the extra revenue will be made available for the manager to strengthen the team, for Kibble the get the benefit of having access to employment opportunities for their young people thus giving them wider exposure to real working environments. By financial investment they are demonstrating that they are committed to making the partnership work, in return have minority voice on the board. This is all explained in the video which I’m sure will answer all the questions people have.

You are correct in that “expertise and talent” that the likes of Kibble can provide are and will be required when full fan ownership is reached particularly to take us to the next level. This has always been a slight concern to me about fan ownership; once complete did the fans have the correct people with the right skills, experience and time to take the club forward? Who would I like to see provide that? A sugar daddy businessman who would want profit share/payback on any investment? A foreign partner with no particular local attachment to Paisley or St Mirren? Or a long standing, local charity with commercial know how (turnover £32M), large resources in terms of staff and facilities, with a sound ethical and moral values. If you were to hand pick a partner then you couldn’t to my mind chose a more appropriate one.

I attended last night and was 80% decided that the deal was right for the club. I now am totally convinced that it is and will vote that it is accepted. I cannot think of any downside only positives and hope that most people will see the same. Congratulations must go to all those involved at SMISA for the effort to date and to the board for the obvious work done to bring a well thought through proposal to the table.

Aye, where's Cammy Smith when you need him ....
There's been a few on here today right enough...

Because he was piss poor.

I believe there was family bereavement.

I’m totally against it. There is no need for it, if you can't go an hour and a half without a drink then you’ve got a problem. Imagine standing in our tiny concourse (Like down south you won’t be allowed to your seat with booze) with a flat, cold pint of Foster in a plastic glass during our winter.....crazy. We’ve all grown up without it in grounds so there is no need to introduce it now and the opposite of what we should be doing.....discourage the high intake of alcohol abuse in Scotland. Oh and I do like a drink, but c’mon it’s not something we need at our games. A decent cup of coffee perhaps!
 
 
 
 
 

I’m totally against it. There is no need for it, if you can't go an hour and a half without a drink then you’ve got a problem. Imagine standing in our tiny concourse (Like down south you won’t be allowed to your seat with booze) with a flat, cold pint of Foster in a plastic glass during our winter.....crazy. We’ve all grown up without it in grounds so there is no need to introduce it now and the opposite of what we should be doing.....discourage the high intake of alcohol abuse in Scotland. Oh and I do like a drink, but c’mon it’s not something we need at our games. A decent cup of coffee perhaps!
 
 
 
 
 

I’m totally against it. There is no need for it, if you can't go an hour and a half without a drink then you’ve got a problem. Imagine standing in our tiny concourse (Like down south you won’t be allowed to your seat with booze) with a flat, cold pint of Foster in a plastic glass during our winter.....crazy. We’ve all grown up without it in grounds so there is no need to introduce it now and the opposite of what we should be doing.....discourage the high intake of alcohol abuse in Scotland. Oh and I do like a drink, but c’mon it’s not something we need at our games. A decent cup of coffee perhaps!
 
 
 
 
 

I’m totally against it. There is no need for it, if you can't go an hour and a half without a drink then you’ve got a problem. Imagine standing in our tiny concourse (Like down south you won’t be allowed to your seat with booze) with a flat, cold pint of Foster in a plastic glass during our winter.....crazy. We’ve all grown up without it in grounds so there is no need to introduce it now and the opposite of what we should be doing.....discourage the high intake of alcohol abuse in Scotland. Oh and I do like a drink, but c’mon it’s not something we need at our games. A decent cup of coffee perhaps!
 
 
 
 
 

I’m totally against it. There is no need for it, if you can't go an hour and a half without a drink then you’ve got a problem. Imagine standing in our tiny concourse (Like down south you won’t be allowed to your seat with booze) with a flat, cold pint of Foster in a plastic glass during our winter.....crazy. We’ve all grown up without it in grounds so there is no need to introduce it now and the opposite of what we should be doing.....discourage the high intake of alcohol abuse in Scotland. Oh and I do like a drink, but c’mon it’s not something we need at our games. A decent cup of coffee perhaps!
 
 
 
 
 

I’m totally against it. There is no need for it, if you can't go an hour and a half without a drink then you’ve got a problem. Imagine standing in our tiny concourse (Like down south you won’t be allowed to your seat with booze) with a flat, cold pint of Foster in a plastic glass during our winter.....crazy. We’ve all grown up without it in grounds so there is no need to introduce it now and the opposite of what we should be doing.....discourage the high intake of alcohol abuse in Scotland. Oh and I do like a drink, but c’mon it’s not something we need at our games. A decent cup of coffee perhaps!
 
 
 
 
 

Comes across massively well, 100%.

Comes across massively well, 100%.