Hiram Abiff
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2 hours ago, TPAFKATS said:2 hours ago, Yflab said:Article around Sweden’s approach....
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01098-xReasonable questions and answers back. Not enough of it about at the moment.
Beep beep, reverse, reverse, backtracking in operation
follows @oaksoftadmitting he was wrong too 😂
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Lockdown to kill hundreds of thousands of children this year according to the UN
https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN21Y2WX
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15 hours ago, faraway saint said:
Is this him posting about people he’s got on ignore again?
quality dim witted ironic comedy? 😂
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12 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:
Don’t be so harsh on yourself cockless
Its a good job that hospitals are so empty. It’ll allow you to put lots of people in them! 😂
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Seldom have our hospitals lain so empty. There are almost 100,000 beds in the NHS, of which 42,540 were unoccupied as of yesterday. Seven Nightingale field hospitals have been built to handle a Covid overflow that never really arrived. NHS hospitals currently have almost twice as many mechanical ventilators as are needed: for the non-invasive ventilators, it’s almost three times as many
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It’s widely been reported and accepted that the lockdown came on the back of a model by Imperial College ( which has never been peer reviewed).
Neil Ferguson has told us that social distancing must stay in place until we get a vaccine.
The WHO tells us that we will need social distancing until we get a vaccine.
Chris Whitty told us yesterday that we must social distance until we get a vaccine.
Bill Gates has funded Imperial College to the tune of more than £185 million and has been their second largest donor.
The WHO’s biggest sponsor is Bill Gates.
Chris Whitty has been awarded £millions by Bill Gates for his research.
Bill Gates is at the forefront of producing this vaccine.
It’s pretty clear what the motivation was for Imperial College’s over estimates and it’s pretty clear what the motivation is behind the advice from the WHO and Chris Whitty and others.
They rely on their funding from those who produce vaccines. The only advice they will ever give is that the only way out is a vaccine.
The MSM will start questioning eventually...
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Beginning to hit main stream media more and more now
The reaction when people begin to see this virus in proportion and how we’ve trashed the economy is going to be interesting
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8248719/amp/Swedens-coronavirus-cases-grow-slowly-Britains-despite-lack-lockdown.html -
1 hour ago, oaksoft said:
Actually I think there is a reasonable case for asking whether we've over-reacted regarding covid given it's relatively small death rate
beep, beep, reverse, reverse, major back tracking beginning 😃
I predicted this turnaround 2 weeks ago 👍
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In The Times today.
Carl Heneghan, director of the centre for evidence-based medicine at Oxford University, said that the impact of the lockdown was “going to outweigh the damaging effect of coronavirus”.
The pandemic has peaked and draconian measures are now unnecessary, a leading scientist claimed yesterday
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2 hours ago, oaksoft said:
Is there a reason you missed off the last 7 days of data in that graph?
ET. There are more problems than that. You've put in false numbers for Sweden's daily deaths which have routinely gone above 100 per day in that time period and are now almost double that.
I haven’t missed off anything. It’s not my graph.
I take you know about trend lines?
Sweden’s daily deaths drop off every weekend and catch up at the start of the week. But I’ll let you into a secret. The deaths aren’t actually dropping off at the weekends. It’s just a reporting issue in Sweden.
Oh dear, you’ve put your foot in it again oaksoft.
If you need me to help you with anything else then just let me know. I appreciate you’re struggling with all this. 👍
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Lockdown to overwhelm NHS with cancer patients
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Sweden proves that lmperial College estimates were wrong many times over
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Consultant oncologist Karol Sikora warns of the catastrophic impact the lockdown is having on non-COVID-19 patients. “Some stroke and heart attack patients are routinely waiting more than two hours for an ambulance, while 2,300 cancer diagnoses are being missed each week because patients are not going to see their GP or because they are not being referred for urgent tests and scans at hospital,” he writes. “Another 400 cancers a week are, it is estimated, being missed because breast, cervical and bowel cancer screening has been suspended. For any of these patients, delay can be a death sentence.” Since the virus struck, the number of patients who are being referred for cancer treatment has dropped by 75%. By Sikora’s estimation, the combined effect of all these delays will be 50,000 excess cancer deaths.
But who cares about another 50,000 deaths, eh @bazil85
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Here’s your statistics @bazil85
Comparison of daily deaths England v Sweden adjusted for population
Notice the curve is flattened regardless of lockdown baz?
But never mind the statistics baz, you carry on with that aligning of the planets 😂
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9 minutes ago, bazil85 said:
I have though, just like in early April. Your first point was agreeing that excessive deaths are down to Covid 19, that picture I shared is the stats to back it up.
It defies logic to agree with that AND want people to be allowed to go out in near full numbers to interact again
How does agreeing that *some* excess deaths are down to Covid 19 prove that the NHS will be overwhelmed if we come out of lockdown?
That defies logic!
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27 minutes ago, bazil85 said:
The vast majority of excess deaths in Uk right now compared to previous years are Covid19 noted.
Obviously! Doh!
QuoteYou can’t make a claim the lockdown is causing more deaths than the virus.
The lockdown will kill many more people than it saves ( if indeed it saves anyone at all)
The UN reckons the lockdown will kill hundreds of millions. The virus won’t kill hundreds of millions.
QuoteYou’re wish not to have a lockdown would be killing more people based on statistics.
Show me these statistics
QuoteStatists are also showing lockdown has slowed the spread of the virus,
No they aren’t
Quotelogically & evidence based on that, those percentages of ICU & hospital beds would evaporate if we didn’t lockdown.
show me the evidence to back that up
Quoteyou’d think you’d learn to hold your tongue after being continuously proven wrong when going against the near global expert advice
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where have I been proven wrong?At the time of the plague, “near global expert advice” was that it was caused by the alignment of two planets.
How did that turn out?
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Stringent lockdowns tend to be linked to higher infection rates
The Oxford University Coronavirus Government Response Tracker compares around 150 countries giving them a stringency score that reflects how strict a country's lockdown measures are. Oxford has plotted the stringency index against the number of Covid-19 cases for that country.
The trend line indicates that stricter lockdown measures are associated with an increased spread of the virus:
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Report in The Lancet states that school closures have minimal or no impact
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(20)30095-X/fulltext
Coronavirus
in General Nonsense
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It’s ironic that the lefties, comfortably working from home on full pay, have supported a policy they thought would align with the self interested political agenda. And it’s going to end up killing millions around the world including hundreds of thousands of children
The real baby killers