Hiram Abiff

Irony.  
You're concerned  my arse, you're a bitter twat with a chip on your shoulder. 
Troll away.  

https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/03/the-things-you-cannot-say-about-coronavirus/

https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/03/the-things-you-cannot-say-about-coronavirus/

Prove it. 

Defend what?
Your lies about countries paying more than 80% to people out of work?
The UK being the only country that allows flights into the country?
I could go on but you're a boring twat, let's leave it at that, I'm fed up putting you in your place. 

People die every day, various reasons, do you have the deplorable attitude to every reason? 
Look at you, coming in to the thread looking to score points, tragic. 

Awww diddums, nobody listening to your bitter shite you come in looking for some point scoring? 

He was already in intensive care for heart failure.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/The-evidence-on-Covid-19-is-not-as-clear-as-we-think

So you’d shut down the economy for flu?

But you wouldn’t shut down the economy for flu?
 
Have you factored in the increased death toll caused by the lockdown?
 
Your indifference to human life is shocking

The two thirds quote is from Neil Ferguson, so you’ll need to take up the indifference to human life with him
 
His figure is a made up guess
 
The Italian Health Institute confirmed that it was 88% in Italy according to their analysis
 
And all of this is no difference from the involvement of flu in deaths.
 
What is actually shameful is folk line you wishing a higher death total in order to score points on a football forum

FFS. 

This was on the BBC website the other day, no matter how you cut it, it’s bad news all round 
What about the impact of the lockdown?
The lockdown, itself, however could cost lives.
Prof Robert Dinwall, from Nottingham Trent University, says "the collateral damage to society and the economy" could include:
mental health problems and suicides linked to self-isolation heart problems from lack of activity the impact on health from increased unemployment and reduced living standards Others have also pointed to the health cost from steps such as delaying routine operations and cancer screening.
Meanwhile, University of Bristol researchers say the benefit of a long-term lockdown in reducing premature deaths could be outweighed by the lost life expectancy from a prolonged economic dip.
And the tipping point, they say, is a 6.4% decline in the size of the economy - on a par with what happened following the 2008 financial crash. 
It would see a loss of three months of life on average across the population because of factors from declining living standards to poorer health care.

The two thirds quote is from Neil Ferguson, so you’ll need to take up the indifference to human life with him
 
His figure is a made up guess
 
The Italian Health Institute confirmed that it was 88% in Italy according to their analysis
 
And all of this is no difference from the involvement of flu in deaths.
 
What is actually shameful is folk line you wishing a higher death total in order to score points on a football forum

Almost 1,200 people in the UK died with the common cold in March
 
(Note for TPAFTWAT.....they died WITH it, not OF it.... I know his brain struggles with the concept - thick as fuck)
 
With Neil Ferguson admitting that up to two thirds or coronavirus deaths would have died anyway and the Italian Health Institute disclosing that 88% of their deaths would have happened anyway, when will the government and media start accurately reporting coronavirus deaths?
 

FFS Stu, why? 
I did think you had a lot of "relations" in key positions, now that's looking like you made it up.
Never mind, I'm just off the phone to the queen, she's fine. 
 

Now changed to 'with the virus' on the BBC site

Not just his opinion.
He is posting many opinions from many experts.
And those experts make a lot of sense to me.

Professor John Oxford of Queen Mary University London, one of the world’s leading virologists and influenza specialists, comes to the following conclusion regarding Covid19: „Personally, I would say the best advice is to spend less time watching TV news which is sensational and not very good. Personally, I view this Covid outbreak as akin to a bad winter influenza epidemic. In this case we have had 8000 deaths this last year in the ‘at risk’ groups viz over 65% people with heart disease etc. I do not feel this current Covid will exceed this number. We are suffering from a media epidemic!“

He forecast 600-700 for tomorrow in a reply to one of my posts.

Didn’t realise he was just posting random numbers.

Makes sense

Oaky was forecasting 600-700 by tomorrow, I was forecasting in excess of 500.
 
His forecast may well be bang on.
 
As you mentioned though, it’s meaningless.
 
60,000 people with the common cold die each year, which of course is meaningless.
 
Strangely, TPAFTWAT appeared to think that people dying with the cold wasn’t meaningless?
 
Shows lack of intelligence.
 
The real figures to watch are excess mortality
 
It’s very early days but excess mortality in England & Wales this year is currently negative.
 
In other words, less people have died than usually do.
 
Need to see how this rises.

10 more global experts question the lockdown

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/10-more-experts-criticising-the-coronavirus-panic/

“Actually, it’s not really as bad as the flu” wouldn’t sell papers

No risk of catching coronavirus on the Tube according to Sadiq Khan on 3rd March....
 
https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/03/coronavirus-london-tube-sadiq-khan-12339239/amp/