Have to disagree with that I'm afraid. Some of my favourite U2 tracks are on Achtung Baby and Zooropa. IMO they lost it more recently on their last couple of albums when they tried to recreate the music they were making in the 80's.
New Order, sadly, will have to be put on that list. As much as I wanted "Waiting for the sirens call" to be brilliant, it just isn't. I saw the tv footage of Glastonbury and that looked poor too.