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  1. Fraser Taylor - Loan to Ballmena Utd

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    The lack of youth players getting a chance in the first team is concerning and it's pretty much been the case since Robinson came in. Whether that's because he doesn't rate them or they aren't ready/good enough I'll leave for others to debate because I know very little about the situation in the academy (not that lack of knowledge usually stops people having arguments online). Does anyone who knows about our youth teams know who is likely to be the next to come through? It is a bit of a surprise we found ourselves with no one to put in midfield on Tuesday, or have been playing guys out of position at right wing back rather than giving a young guy a shot. I'm guessing the guys we have in those positions either aren't deemed ready or are out on loan.

    You'd have to imagine Reid and whoever we lost to Burnley (apologise, forgot his name) would have been involved by now if they had hung around. It's probably the first time we've been victims of losing kids who have barely kicked a ball for the first team because a bigger club is happy to spend relatively little in the hope they come good. There's not really much else we could have done with them. Henderson would maybe have been a bit more involved had he stayed and I'd have liked us to keep him and let someone like Olusanya go if we could find a taker, even if he has improved, but he obviously wanted more regular first team football, which he wasn't going to get with our system - and seemingly hasn't at County because of injury.

    I think some of the kids got some game time in the League Cup. Since then, we've rarely been in a position to chuck the young guys on for some experience late on without any pressure to do something because most of our league games have been tight. I did find it odd we didn't put Jamieson on against St Johnstone (and we made a number of subs at 3-0), however he then got brought on against Hibs and has had some game time since then. Apart from him, I don't think we've had that many young players on the bench - I think Lennon was on it for one league game and away on loan shortly after.

    It's a shame as since we sold Erhahon - and Robinson deserves a lot of credit for his progression, even though he was well established in the first team when he arrived - we haven't really had one of our youth products getting regular first team games and I can't remember the last time we have been in that position for as long as this. We had a great run of midfielders and you can draw a pretty much unbroken line from Erhahon back as far as you care to go - I'd traced it back to McLean, then remembered Stephen McGinn - and he broke through at pretty much the same time we sold Lappin (with Shuggy there the whole time!). And that's not forgetting guys in other positions who did well for us like Naismith, McAusland, Baird and Kelly, who were all good players even if they didn't get big moves.

    Hopefully Taylor will get his shot, either this season or next. Going by his comments on the Open Goal podcast, Robinson really rates him - however given he joked he'd have liked to loan him to Barcelona for experience due to his style of play I don't think he would have been the answer on Tuesday night!

  3. Explosive Smisa application

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    11 hours ago, gomaster said:

    There would be a data protection breach if it is classed as 2 separate parties/organisations. You cannot share details between one party and the other without the express consent of the individual who's details you hold and plan to share. This type of question was asked at last Smisa q&a regarding promoting Smisa membership through existing details held by club and gdpr laws were quoted for that as consent of those who's details the club hold would be required before they could pass to Smisa. Basically similar scenario. Also remember there are only circa 240 1877 members but circa 2,000 season ticket holders before you add in non st holders who may be a member and buy tickets as and when they choose.

    While there will almost certainly be GDPR issues, it's funny how there was no mention of that in The Herald article: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/23519345.alan-wardrop-mr-st-mirren-takes-legal-advice-stadium-ban/

    He said the club chairman had also asked if he could provide an up to date membership list for the 1877 club together with "access to the mailbox and email address by return in order to facilitate the use of the club by members on Saturday".

    But he is refusing to co-operate in disgust at how he has been treated.

    "It does mean that club members may not be able to get to the club," he said. "There are 240 members of the club. What they have done to me in banning me is totally unfair. This could happen to any supporter."

    1 hour ago, beyond our ken said:

    The manager shouldn't have been LEFT to answer those questions.  The chairman should have read a prepared statement bef ore the conference and made it clear the manager would only be dealing with the match and he should have presided over the meeting to ensure the manager didn't even have to rebuff any questions of that nature.

    If there's one way to ensure a journalist asks a question about a specific subject it's to tell them not to ask a question about that specific subject.

    Could anyone going to the SMiSA AGM please ask if, or perhaps when, we'll be consulted on this conference league B team nonsense that is doing the rounds. Absolutely no excuse for members not to be asked their views.

  4. Explosive Smisa application

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    On 5/7/2023 at 7:49 PM, saint in exile said:

    Helluva lot of "new" posters in this thread. Strange?

    Sadly, this seems to be the way of things when it comes to discussing most issues related to SMiSA, the club board and the Kibble. New accounts appear often appear and we have people posting to support their own and/or their pal's agendas. It's not even well disguised either - it's blatantly obvious who the "fan who wishes to remain anonymous" is. It's a shame because there have probably been legitimate concerns raised about this grant application, but it gets lost on all the points scoring and people pushing their own agendas.

    But this all seems acceptable - making it even more laughable that the younger candidates got into trouble at the last SMiSA board elections for posting on Twitter asking folk to vote for them as that was classed as "electioneering" and apparently isn't allowed.

  5. Explosive Smisa application

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    16 hours ago, doakie said:

    Cover it up? I've just given you a detailed summary of the increased transparency and communications from Smisa i.e. the complete opposite of a cover up. Are you capable of sensible debate or are you simply trying to cause mischief? I suspect the latter. Cover up - what a nonsensical statement. 

    Not sure if I agree about increased transparency considering they announced two new co-opted board members, forgetting (deliberately or otherwise) to announce a third one until unveiling him as the new chairman, replacing a guy who has quit a week or so earlier with no explanation (not even the standard “personal reasons” vagueness) as to why he had gone - the third chairman in less than a year to quit.

    Some worrying stuff in Alan Wardrop’s statement however it’s hard to see how we get rid of Kibble unless they get bought out.

    I also find the attempt to change the constitution around co-opting members slightly worrying but sadly you can only vote against that if you attend the AGM, which I’m unable to.

    Shame there isn’t another amendment stopping a co-opted board member becoming chairman unless voted through at an AGM.

  8. Welcome Keith Lasley

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    4 hours ago, beyond our ken said:

    In the absence of any "sloppy journalism" thread, perchance?  Why even bother with this, never mind lead with it?

    "WHEN St Mirren posted a loss of £1.6m in their annual accounts, the disappointing results were seized upon by some supporters of Celtic and Rangers as a comeuppance for the club’s temerity to slash – it is never simply ‘reduce’ - their ticket allocations for their visits to the SMiSA Stadium".

    Or,

    "There are no such worries at St Mirren, who are on course to record their highest ever average home attendance over the course of the season, and Lasley is sure that the uptick is at least partly due to the fact the Saints fans have been made to feel as if their stadium is their own"

    • Highest average home attendance: 17,333, 1949–50 (15 games)[15]  ]From a Wikipedia page, but referrenced to the source publication. 
     

    After that first paragraph he goes on to point out the loss related to 2021/22 and not this season when we cut the Old Firm allocation.

  9. More redundancies. Where are you SMISA?

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    55 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said:

    We would never have had Thommo and Teale without his business acumen.

    Without them, no 2013 cup win. 

    I think Thommo would have signed regardless but he was definitely involved in Teale coming to the club as they knew each other (were perhaps even friends) from their time at Ayr.

    Whether that connection counts as business acumen is a pedantic debate I'll leave for others 😂

    To be clear, I'm not criticising Brian Caldwell as I feel he did a good job.

     

    33 minutes ago, elvis said:

    Is there anywhere you can see who owns shares and how many they have.

    This link should take you to the relevant document at Companies House from December 2021 (the 2022 version isn't available yet): shorturl.at/cpTV5

    Out of interest, anyone know how you would go about transferring shares into a different name? No point having them registered to my dad any more.

  10. More redundancies. Where are you SMISA?

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    On 1/28/2023 at 2:59 PM, Albanian Buddy said:

    Thanks for clarification.

    Let’s be honest it was a poor decision to replace Brian Caldwell with someone with very limited experience of the role. 

    I agree. If Tony didn't have the previous connection with the club I doubt he'd have got the job.

    However...

    19 hours ago, Albanian Buddy said:

    Here’s a question. Why was Mr Wardrop brought onto the board by Gordon Scott in 2016? https://www.the-gazette.co.uk/news/14636347.gordon-scott-takes-over-the-helm-at-st-mirren/
    Brought in for his financial advice you would have thought? Did he explain at the AGM why he resigned? 

    ...now that you've been told GLS had no involvement in appointing the previous person you blamed, you now seem to be shifting the blame on to someone he did bring into the club.

    Where does this all end? Do we blame the previous board for inviting GLS to be a director in the first place and giving him a taste of what life in the boardroom was like? 

    2 hours ago, waldorf34 said:

    Keith Lasley has no financial background  whatsoever, hence us advertising  for Finance assistant , ie 2 guys to do the job Brian Caldwell did .

    Don't think Tony had a financial background either, did we have a finance assistant then?

    The argument could be made that Brian Caldwell was doing the job of more than two people given how few staff we had and that there should have been a finance assistant etc back then too. Just because we didn't have one doesn't mean we couldn't have done with one - fairly sure there have been folk at the club doing two or three different jobs at the same time over the past few years.

  15. More redundancies. Where are you SMISA?

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    13 minutes ago, beyond our ken said:

    The matters of substance are inferred, especially the hint that we are operating at a loss jut now.  You can only say so much when you are just in the door.  As for the younger guys, well give them a chance.  i know nothing of them or how they came to the attention of the board members so If i were a SMISA member then I would prefer to give them a chance,

    The younger guys stood in the SMISA elections a few weeks back and were the only ones that didn't get elected. I was a bit disappointed neither of them get on as most committees are crying out for younger folk to put themselves forward and get involved and it seemed like a missed opportunity, so pleased that they are now on the committee.

  17. More redundancies. Where are you SMISA?

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    16 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

    Probably not the news some on here were wanting to see.

    I see Supersaints has now f**ked off as it's a case of job done. Daddy Gilmour got what he wanted and he's had his batteries removed and been put back in the bedside drawer for such times when he's needed again. 😄

    Aye, funny how certain accounts have been rather quiet since the election results were announced.

    Still waiting on details of a former member of staff being awarded £30,000 by a tribunal - information that would be in the public domain if it happened.

  20. More redundancies. Where are you SMISA?

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    50 minutes ago, animal said:

    Maybe there is no point arguing here. Believe what you want but -

     
    Dr Wong, a dyed in the wool St Mirren supporter and son in law of a former club doctor, did indeed leave for those reasons.
    Our former stadium manager was awarded £30,000 by an employment tribunal for unfair dismissal.
     

    It would appear all employment tribunal results are published here: https://www.gov.uk/employment-tribunal-decisions

    I can find no details of any employment tribunals involving St Mirren FC. There are a few involving Kibble from the last few years, all but one of which was struck off and the exception was dismissed. It may be there is another company name or contractor I should be searching for.

    I've tried searching a few names that have previously been suggested here as stadium manager with no luck.

    Any further information you could provide about this, or the other tribunals, mentioned would be much appreciated as it would help me find this information which is already in the public domain.

    You'll be aware there is plenty of scepticism, to put it mildly, over the claims posted by yourself and others so this is a great opportunity for you to back up your case and win many of us round.

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