jimdickloyal

No, because the clubs shares remain up for sale

I knew it wouldnt be long before one of the "Crusaders" bit. Actually having listened to RA tonight I think this could be of benefit to the club. RA made points that nobody on here did.

I sure Mr A is unable to confirm that I was at the meeting as he has not had the pleasure of meeting me. The point was perfectly clear, as was everything in the meeting. If you left that meeting with unanswered questions then I am surprised as plenty opportunity was given to ask.

RA made it crystal clear that the the executive board will only be him, Fitzy etc initially as those who will be providing funding are used to dealing with these individuals. They will be electable, could not have been clearer!

Im unsure as to why you reached that conclusion. Were you the person who repeatedly asked this question? The important facts (as I see them) is that St Mirren FC will NOT inherit any debt. The debt taken on by the CIC is entirely servicable by the cic IF it gets the support (which it will). If the cic were to collapse (which it wont) then the 52% shareholding goes up for sale and we are exactly where we are now. Its relatively risk free for the club. Indeed the benefit to the club was laid out quite clearly.

Go to a meeting. It was all covered! Thats me and the wife pledged.

SID for once you make a decent point. The small contigent at the front right just did not seem to understand what was really a very simple part of the concept. I also thought they were verging on being rude and I am unsure as to whether they have an agenda. Other than that I was very happy with the concept of the cic and I am now a lot more excited about it than I was at teatmime tonight. Richard Atkinson came across very well. My opinion on the cic now is that if we (the supporters) do not support this then we will be passing up a real golden opportunity.

Its a great name. Richard explained the reason behind it and it is indeed very sensible. Obviously I wont share the reason with you as you need to attend one of the meetings to find out!

Having attended the meeting tonight and having heard Richard talk about this very subject I must say that if this church decides to meet at St Mirren park then as a future cic member it is a good thing. The benefits are quite clear.

As long as its not a religious service

Once again you are drivelling pish. Being rude does not make your rantings any more plausible. I do not want religion near my football club because I think religion is both ignorant and dangerous. The "fan base" angle is just nonsense.

No it is not, stop moving the goal posts to suit your agenda, The RAC are not religious......just as jaffa cakes do not contain meat. Please do not ruin a decent debate with such stupidity as it detracts from the adult conversation. Bluto: get stuck in, "identy" and "ar" for starters.

Cetco are a company who pump sewage in Malaysia. The CEO at the time was an exiled buddie. I like the Mooy excercise bike analogy, very good! However afaik Aaron Mooy does not perch himself upon that bike whilst trying to convince kids in the main stand that the world is only 6000 yrs old, hell is a bad place and the big man is always watching you, even when you play with yourself! Ive never been that close to Aaron Mooy whislt he is on his bike so I may be wrong!

Contrary to popular opinion, I agree. I just have an issue with us allowing a religious group having an connection with a football club. People are impressionable after all.

Um...How?

Quite. Considering the debate that this proposal has stirred up then is it fair to say that having this religious group at St Mirren park is just too controversial and as such should not be allowed to happen?

Thank you for small mercies

Usual standard of self absorbent pish. I awarded a green dot as I liked the quote. The clue is where I said "very good quote". The rest of that post sid is pish, it doesnt mean anything. As usual you add nothing. You are best sticking to making up rumours, that best defines your level.

Have a green dot for that one. Very good quote indeed. One of the obvious features of this thread has been the tendancy for posters to confuse "disaproval" and "hate". Quite unfortunate as it has detracted from what should be a thought provoking and interesting debate. Religion is best kept away from from football clubs. This can be evidenced by the amount of debate that this very thread has generated. Im also taken aback somewhat at the amount of posters on here who react so passionately in defence of the church. Maybe if some of you were to actually attend church rather than blindly defend its honour then the congregation would not need to approach our community football club for assistance !

Absolutely, that is why I have expressed my opinion. If I did not have an opinion then I would not have felt the need to express it. Quite obvious really.

There you are again with the insults. Its a great freedom that we enjoy whereby anyone can decide to attend any place of worship. I do however object to my football club becoming associated with ANY religious organisation. Throughout this thread I have seen the words "intolerant" and "bigot" thrown about without justification against anyone who does not agree that St Mirren should be associated with a religious organisation. Its a shame really as a reasoned debate may have held some interest. For the record I do think that any organisation that teaches that the world in which we live is only 6000 yrs old is indeed dangerous! What insult will that opinion provoke?

No but unless the scouts have changed since I attended them then the scouts do not seekk to indoctrinate people into a system of belief, unlike the Church. Churches of any denomination have there place and we as indiviuals can attend these churches is we so desire but to bring in any church/mosque/synagogue etc to a FOOTBALL club is a very dangerous and reckless thing to do.

Not at all Reynard and your simplistic reply is well.....simplistic. The fact that our beloved club is named after a real person is something that adds character and history to the "St Miren story". Indeed the Christian past of Paisley as a town is something we should all understand and appreciate, Paisley abbey for example is steeped in history and central to the culture of our town. In a modern age however education and a better appreciation of the sciences has resulted in the inevitable move away from religion. That is a good thing as educated people are now free to make there own choices. The obvious danger with having organised religion at our beloved ground is an obvious one. If just ONE person, be it adult or child, decides to attend church because that church is affiliated with our club then that is very dangerous indeed. The church/mosque/synagogue or whatever it may has NO place at a football club like ours. PS Your assumption that people who do not attend church are in some way "less decent" makes you look really stupid indeed. Athiests are not bitter people or dullards. Your unwelcome insults detract from any credability you may have had in this debate. Yes Reynard you have indeed let yourself down.