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Terry Butcher , with a remit to do a similar job , to what he done at Inverness would do or Jimmy Nicholl to be mentor to two experienced players , but one things for certain , we need someone identifying players for next season with effect from now , and getting them signed on PCA,s

To be honest I don,t really care who we keep , I just believe that our best way forward is to sign a group of hard working experienced players , who have played most of their careers in the lower leagues and who would welcome the opportunity to play for a club that will hopefully be challenging for promotion . I don,t think an exclusively youth orientated squad would work , and I think there is good sense in keeping some of the existing squad . But this close season should be seen as an opportunity , get rid of the negativity , and try to build an attack minded team

That's our next manager sorted , and his first signing target If its possible to get a manager on a PCA , that's what we need to identify players in the lower leagues that can do a job , and get them on PCA,s

Trying to be positive here By not renewing Cheesys , Kello,s and Teales contract , we could bring in 6 very good part timers and give them a better wage than they are currently on , Not renewing Wildes , Tesselar , Arquin , Gow , Genevs , and Daytons contracts should allow us to bring in 6 decent experienced Championship standard players and make a few savings I would keep Thompson , Goodwin , Ridgers , Kelly , Naismith , Mallan , McLear and McGinn , Throw in a couple of loanees , and we should have a decent enough squad to compete next season. Attendances won,t be the massive drop as in previous years , and more Saints fans might pay through the gate on a weekly basis if there is a winning team and a feelgood factor . Its about getting the right manager in , and creating a feelgood factor within the club.

You have a point. Don,t know what to believe regarding interested parties , but there was a guy who was awful disappointed his bid wasn,t accepted roundabout Christmas , I wonder if he will be back ,

Jimmy Nicholl would be my ideal choice , loads of experience of wheeling and dealing , well respected , good contacts in the game , doing relatively well with Cowdenbeath , excellent knowledge of the league we are going to be in , and more so an awareness of decent players who may be interested in coming to us , his new role with Northern Ireland may also enable us to get a couple of decent Irish youngsters . Would consider having Goodwin and Thompson as his assistants .

One thing less to worry about now , we don,t have any worries about Sevco buying us to get SPL status

Would keep Goodwin and Thompson on reduced contracts with have them as assistant managers ( let them go if they reject the terms ) , and appoint an experienced manager to mentor them , maybe Butcher or Nicholl , and then identify a three year plan to rebuild the club top to bottom. I don,t think an exclusively youth policy is the way forward , and our starting line up should only contain a couple of under 21 players in it , with another 3 or 4 on the bench . We need to create some enthusiasm and energy about the club , and the rebuilding process should start now . I liked the way Inverness started pre season training very early one season and used the process to more or less recruit a whole team , an approach like that would help season ticket sales and bring about a bit of positivity to the club. As would an energetic and ambitious set of new owners

Perhaps a change of direction is required , maybe an exclusively youth development approach isn,t the way , Maybe its about identifying players in their early twenties who have lost their way , and working with them , Inverness have done very well doing this . We need to generate enthusiasm for next season and starting next season with a team of under 21 players isn,t ideal . A new management team needs to be in place , and trials / pre season needs to start early so we can get together a decent team for the new season and create a bit of buzz about the town . Relegation should be our opportunity to get rid of the staleness and set foundations for the future , getting the right balance for youth and experience .

Relegation should be an opportunity to get rid of all the high earners and bring in players who will graft for the team , Change is badly needed and we need to have somebody in place now identifying who can do a job for us next season , we know where we will be , we will have a decent budget for that league , so we should be trying to get players in on PCA , and create a bit of enthusiasm for next season , who knows if the right changes are made season ticket sales might even increase. My belief though is that next season we shouldn,t be over reliant on youngsters , and should be targeting experienced championship players to get best value from the budget we have.

Going to put £1 ew the 11th - 20th favourites , should give me a wee interest

It looks very much like we are going down , and if we are to stand a chance of coming back up , we need to find that wheeler dealer manager that Stuart Gilmour was talking about in Novemeber , someone who knows the players in the lower divisions and someone who knows the type of player we will need in the lower division , if funds are tight , we need to looking at the likes of Alloa , Livingston , Dumbarton , Cowdenbeath etc and make 7 or 8 signings that will toughen us up and make us competitive next season . I would even consider bringing in Jimmy Nicholl mentoring Stevie Thompson and Jim Goodwin if money is tight . But it is hugely important too get a few seasoned pros in who are used to playing in the championship .

Do we not get a wee bit extra , because he,s captain of the under 20s

I think it was 1980 or 1981 Saints advertised on STV Were we the first team to advertise on TV ?

I,m kinda hoping that Cheesy , Genev and Goody might tighten things up defensively , and maybe get us going on a good run , one always has to try and be optimistic , though one finds it very hard these days.

Assuming the club won,t be sold , and we are looking for a cheap option , what about appointing Jimmy Nichol as a sort of General Manager with a remit to pass on his experience to Teale and Longwall . If its possible could we get Nicholl on a pre contract agreement , so we as a team can make a few pre contract signings and identify hard working experienced Championship players who can get us competeing for promotion next season.

The club was very close to being sold at Christmas , and the interested party was that disappointed the sale fell through , he chose to share it on this forum , there has been interest in the club , and it could be argued that the price has now dropped significantly due to our current situation , which in itself might create more interest . My feeling is that there may be those within the selling group , who may chose to take an offer now , rather than see how things pan out over the next three years.. We certainly need something to kickstart enthusiasm in watching Saints So I think there is a strong possibility that the club will be sold by the end of the year .

The fighting spirit shown by Ross County and Motherwell in recent weeks suggests that they will be no pushovers come the play offs , I was hoping we would also come good , but it seems not to be , hopefully a bit of luck against Celtic and wins against Motherwell and Ross County will help . Also think Forfar will win League One ( got them at 10/1 at start of season )

I hate saying it , but next season should be about a new start , and changes should be made with effect from now to create a bit of enthusiasm about a new beginning . New Ownership , and a clear direction forward would be good Failing that , a new manager and eleven new signings ( experienced players in their mid twenties ) who along with the players retained can enable us to challenge next season , and give us a wee bit of exiting football to watch.

See that wheeler dealer manager we should have had before the last transfer window , well that's the kind of guy we need in place now , to identify potential signings for next season , we badly need 6 or 7 fit experienced player aged between 24 - 29 who can graft in the lower leagues . I hate to admit it , but I think its relegation for us , and to bounce back up , we should be trying to put together a hard working experienced squad to challenge with effect from now . Our other main priority is get us playing in a decent strip five black vertical stripes on a white shirt , if we can,t play like Juventes at least we would look like them.

I,ve changed my mind , we can still stay up if we win our remaining games

I have now accepted relegation , and maybe now is the time to bring Butcher on board , we need to be looking at getting the right players in to help us push for promotion now , I don,t think Teale has the contacts or the knowledge to bring in the right players for next season.

mon the Saints

Same here £15 petrol , £22 entry , £5 parking , and £4 for pie and Bovril quite a few bob to watch your team when its struggling , no wonder crowds are so low

John Paton I think was trying to set himself up for a job when he was trying to package the club to sell to Reg Brearley With regards to the club ending up in a mess , there are two main reasons firstly the club spent big trying to put together a team capable of challenging for a European place , and those that were bought were not good enough to sell on at a profit . And secondly we spent loads on building a massive away stand to house average away crowds of 300. The current board of the directors at the time have to take responsibility , and the only thing that they could have been accused of was being ambitious , and wanting St Mirren to do well . I believe that's why our current B of D are being so prudent , as one or two bad decisions can put us down there again.