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In fairness you should re-read my post. I edited it to make it even more insulting. People who use phrases like "Corporate Governance" should be banned from any position of responsibility and made to eat pilchard and raspberry sandwiches. You talk like an MBA. Are there any MBA's out there who have actually made money from using their own money as opposed to someone else's that I could talk to here? BTW freemason? I'm not a freemason.

Double post FFS

It's clearly not your own money. Most proper businessmen (i.e. those who make their own money) know that people prefer to do business with people. Networking is everything. I would NEVER give business to someone I didn't know. I would be especially worried about giving someone else's £500k away to people I didn't know. Sadly the world is full of MBA's prepared to spend other people's money by following other people's business models. ETA: You got me started on this grrrr. What do you do when you need your car fixed? Arrange 3 quotes in sealed bids and then set your own T&C? Or do you pick up the phone and ask a mate who to recommend? Almost no jobs are advertised ever. Interviews at most of the very top jobs are by invitation only. They are generally NOT announced. I could go on but I hope the point is made. If you really are in charge of that amount of money you need to start doing your job properly. I'm betting you work for a council. Maybe that's why budgets ALWAYS overrun. You keep giving money to people you don't know and guess what - they lie to you to get the gig.

Dost my eyes deceive me? Is the ever cynical Sid starting to sound like a spin doctor for SMISA or is he after a cnutcillor's job after all? Dear oh dear. How quickly the whiff of power affects a man's judgment.

Why? They'll be clean, spruce and debt free with a new owner, the same stadium and training centre and back in the SPL in time for tea and medals. They'll miss Europe for 3 seasons but that'll be it. Nothing is going to change here. The best to hope for is a large CVA agreement which takes out a huge chunk of their income for 10 years. I can't see any upside at all. They'll have cheated to win stuff, simply closed down instead of paying anything back and then emerged to start all over again.

I know that everyone is hand-wringing over this "terrible tragedy" but seriously some people are so unbelievably stupid that laughing is the only option. I sometimes wonder whether people do this deliberately in a weird attempt to claim some compensation. I can't believe Labour are asking Maude to resign over it.

I'm trying not to hope that every garage within driving distance of you has a 2 hour queue at it but I can't shift the image or the smile on my face when I picture it. You've turned me into a bad person. I used to be quite nice. OK maybe not nice but certainly bearable. Well maybe not bearable.......

Electric cars are the future. Having said that it's pretty hilarious to see people stupid enough to panic buy when clearly there is no strike date yet. That will require 7 days notice. Therefore all those muppets buying now should know that even if the date is announced tonight they will have run out of fuel again by the time the strike starts. In other words, panic buying at this stage is bloody stupid.

Aw bless. Your wee ickle fwend Drew "liked" your post.

Now that there's over 1000, it looks like you're one step closer to the sausage rolls then. Are you getting a power buzz yet?

Don't put yourself down. That's our job.

I'll tell you what worries me about the 10000 hrs thing. We've just escaped years of crushing debt of around £2 million. It cost us our ground. Now we're talking about going back into debt of £2 million again within 3 years of being clear. Maybe someone can convince me of the sanity of that because I can't get my head around it.

A fair bit of needless knicker-wetting from people on here. Absolutely no link to r*ngers whatsoever but hey let's hang, draw and quarter a long serving board member without having either any direct evidence or giving him a chance to explain what is going on. And people wonder why I get frustrated with idiots.

That happened to me at a showing of Ghost in 1991 at the bit where the "heaven light" shone on him and took him away. My girlfriend at the time hit me somewhere tender.

Aye they read your posts on here before realising how brilliant and revolutionary you are . Lead us oh wondrous leader!!!!

If the likelihood is that a newly formed r*ngers get to immediately join the SPL with the debt wiped out then maybe liquidation is NOT the best hope for the rest of us. Maybe the best hope is for them to limp on as they are with that debt needing cleared. That would result in player sales and reduced quality at Ibrox with resulting lower crowds to mid-1980's levels. A this point only 1 club would be bringing any sizeable support to away games meaning the OF influence on other teams would be halved overnight. Needs must under these circumstances and league reconstruction would be attempted because the TV money wouldn't compensate for losing r*ngers money on the home gate. c*ltic would struggle because with no competition, nobody would sign for them. So, maybe we get what we want after al if they stick around in the current form. I just can't see them being allowed to disappear. Too many people need to unleash their latent bigotry to allow the only channel open to them to disappear. A reformed r*ngers because of liquidation COULD be a disaster. Much as I hate to admit it of course.

No. Whyte was the one who didn't pay the £9 million PAYE which is why they are in administration. The £49million battle hasn't started yet.

If nothing else this should be a wakeup call to Doncaster. 1) His idea of colt teams for the OF would have had immediate severe repercussions for the third division and must be considered dead. 2) The idea that our game is built around 2 clubs in debt has been shown to be as crazy as relying on a single TV company to fund our game. 3) The re-arrangment of our league to 16/18 teams is a better longer term strategy than relying on 4 OF games a season whuich are plainly no longer reliable. BUT most of all, our dithering chairmen MUST understand that fundamental change is the only sustainable way forwards. They have all their eggs in one basket and that should never have been allowed to happen. If r*ngers do disappear they won't be the last. IMO Hearts, Aberdeen, Hibs, Dundee Utd and Killie would probably all be tipped over the edge. The people who got us into this almighty trap should be banned from being in the game permanently.

Dundee didn't owe HMRC £50 million. That's the real difference here. I can't think of another club which owed so much to the taxman and survived,

This is all just a wee bit premature. r*ngers will have a 10 point deduction within 2 weeks and a transfer embargo. HMRC will say "no deal". It's their only option or every other club owing them money will simply do the same thing as r*ngers. The end COULD be nigh. There's no chance of another r*ngers restarting in the 3rd division and starting again. The fans wouldn't support the loss of the history. Would we have supported Saints Mk II? I wouldn't have because it wouldn't have been St Mirren. So all paths lead to liquidation BUT if Whyte can asset strip the club including the debt through a pre-pack to another of his companies maybe he can screw the taxman. It's all agonisingly too early to call. My gut feeling is that somehow they'll survive squeaky clean.

Seriously for your own health you need to accept that Gilmour dismissed your business idea and move on with life. Bitter and twisted does not a happy man make. Ask St Sid. He named himself after a drug addict and a murderer.

Quite right Stuart. When the medical profession unearthed Harold Shipman, they decided not to replace him with another highly qualified and experienced doctor. They advertised for plumbers and shopkeepers to take over as the local GP. In fact they actively discourage all would-be doctors from having any previous medical experience at all. Ach you do make me smile. Keep posting. BTW for the billionth time just in case you missed it - Poz is not standing for the board.