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Shame they didn,t keep one for someone special.

Cracking choice from The Proclaimers on their top 5 songs earlier this week....still available for listening to on Radio Scotland.

Spirit of 77, we all know Dickheid spouts a load of in the main rubbish. However that said it makes it even easier to ignore it as you know sticking your head in hot fat makes more sense than he does. Ignore him like the majority do and one day he'll dissapear up that rather large ass of his

Thanks Div, and yer Mods.
Since setting up house with wee Herbie and being bullied into "following" St Mirren, i've become a bit of a regular on here.
Got to say i love it, love being part of it and love the nonsense that comes with it, even if i have been guilty of letting the forum wind up merchant get under my skin, on the odd occasion. you know who you are.
anyways, keep up the good work, its much appreciated, by this Jag.
Dave.J
JagBud

Always sorry to see fellow buddies lose the plot in the forum. I've never understood how people can get so worked up about wind up merchants, personally I just skim past any of the nonsense posters or I put them on ignore which is why that feature is there.
Anyway, your wish has been granted, account has been disabled.
On the subject of the forum dying it's actually not, visitors are up 50% on this time last year. We're coming up to our tenth anniversary of this particular forum this summer !

That picture could be deemed as antagonistic to fans of wranglers. .
What is RTC. .

They have lodged a notice of intention to appoint administrators. This has the effect of stopping anyone else taking action for 5 days. At the end of the 5 days you can then appoint an Administrator or you can lodge another notice of intention.
I'd wager that Whyte has already flogged off a slew of the Debts to other organisations such as ticketus in order to keep the leaking sieve of a boat that is HMS Titani Ibrox afloat... It's a fascinating week or two... or month or so of revelations to ensue. Happy days...
This. Snaffled from RTC.

I liked Monty best , when he ran the Flying Circus. .

I liked Monty best , when he ran the Flying Circus. .

I liked Monty best , when he ran the Flying Circus. .

ffs guys, sid is a gobshite, end of. a guy who constantly slags off and insults fellow supporters. it is indeed a throwback to the terraces of parkhead where the natives would regulary bait and fight amongst themselves.
He doesnt understand what its like to be a st.mirren fan, poor sod.

"Enough's enough."
Quality pomposity big frassled.
Your longwinded post is nothing more than blind ranting about a debt that you can't even put a figure to despite many telephone conversations with Richie Rich. Bizarre that you didn't ask for the specifics when it is such a major personal concern for you.
I do see where you are coming from with the debt though - you are coming from a position of personal issues with the consortium. A real shame that you should let that taint your support for the CIC. The consortium have done a great job for us and we should be forever grateful to them. You shouldn't let that stick in yer craw 0- if it does you should really keep it presents you in a poor light......and your fragile ego cannae handle that.

Ladeeezngennnelmen...my apologies for the length of this post, but not the content:
Sid, enough’s enough.
In the last week I deliberately tried to avoid some kind of personal slanging match /bitch fest. I succumbed with the reference to your hooped past, but that was even done in a silly fashion (ie. Shur Shean ). I made an effort to keep thing polite, even referring to you as “erudite”.
In return I get the usual Sid, twisting & warping every little comment, not reading what people are posting, etc.
EG:
1)You claim I said the St.Mirren brand was “worthless”.
I actually said: “.....its not that strong” (ie. not £4m strong)
2)You queried if I was a St.Mirren supporter.
I responded by explaining how long I have followed the Buds, and the ways that I have tried to “big them up” in the wider media when opportunities arose.
You said that this was the actions of a “fan” not a “supporter”.
OK. I then tried to explain that I have “supported” SMFC in a variety of financial ways over the last ¼ century+.
You then say “...supporting St Mirren is not a measure of how much money you put into it”.
I agree 100% Sid.......but aside from the explained historical, emotional, practical, and financial backing..... I’m left scratching my head at what else I am meant to be doing to qualify as a St.Mirren supporter/fan ?
3)I’d previously explained 2 or 3 times that I didn’t know the debt figure, but knew from Richard’s explanation that it was sizeable enough to take 2-3 years of CIC income to pay off, through direct finance and trade-off conditions. If its OK with you Sid, I’ll listen to Richard on this score.
My concern was simple business/economics – the CIC funds can go to the team quicker if there was less of a debt to pay....no matter how that debt was paid/traded off. I want to see the CIC efforts directly impact on the footballing budget ASAP, and this is one way to achieve it. It is clear that nobody has been able to come close with a bid of £2m, so it is entirely reasonable to review the bid price before completion, especcially with funding "issues" causing delays. This would only benefit the FUTURE of St.Mirren FC.
Tonight, we finally get the pearls of wisdom.....
“If you had read my previous posts on the matter of the £2M, I have always held the opinion that it would be nice if the consortium took some of the £2M and pumped it straight back into the CIC......which is pretty much what I understand to be their intention. “
It would be nice indeed. How philanthropic ! Does it not also happen to be a stipulatuion of the deal by the backers ? I do hope that the BoD stick around with their annual £10k contribs after the obligatory “contracted-in” period expires. Otherwise Richard’s going to have to dust down the old contacts book again, poor sod.
“You also fail to comment on the fact that some of the debt will be traded to zero based on social outcomes.....and that much of the debt is interest free.”
You’ve completely missed the point. Debt is debt is debt. Bottom line is that if the purchase price wasn’t so high, this would be reduced, and we wouldn’t need to wait “2-3 years” (RA) for the CIC to really benefit the team. Interest free / social funding / etc.....it is still a payback method.
You’ve said your piece and your position is now crystal clear. As is mine. We’re not likely to agree, so I’ll just leave it at that. Not much point in carrying this on.

Are you called fras cos you're easily frassled?
Rather odd that you should associate your support of St Mirren as nothing more than what you invest financially. What a sad waste of money that must have been for you when you clearly have no respect for the club. SMFC is pure gold for the good people of Renfrewshire. As the centre of the community it is worth far more than any financial tag. It is no surprise at all that you cannot understand that point. The CIC is not about the money, just as supporting St Mirren is not a measure of how much money you put into it.
I know that you don't know how much the debt actually is. It renders your spurious argument baseless.
If you had read my previous posts on the matter of the £2M, I have always held the opinion that it would be nice if the consortium took some of the £2M and pumped it straight back into the CIC......which is pretty much what I understand to be their intention. You also fail to comment on the fact that some of the debt will be traded to zero based on social outcomes.....and that much of the debt is interest free.
The £2M is not an issue unless you hold some personal grudge against the consortium or one of the consortium members in particular. It is just a number and sufficient funding has been sought to achieve that number. If you had experience in social funding you would understand this.
If however, you would like assistance in putting together a coherent and salient critique of the CIC or the current BoD please let me know and I will be delighted to present it - you don't even have to own up to you being behind it. I am a great believer in both sides being heard.

OK Sid. You wanted simple.
"Supporter" - in my 36 years since attending my first Saints game I have paid admission fees, had a ST, bought merchandise, subscribed to Gold Bond/Lotto etc; , bought places at club functions, and even got some corporate advertising in for the club. Will that suffice ?
I simply queried that the SMFC "brand" is not worth £4m. I never said it was worthless.
Debt - I said before, I don't know the debt. Try reading before typing. I do know that there will be one, so sizeable that RA estimated that it would take 3 years of CIC income to pay it off. I believe that a more realistic purchase price reduces this debt figure by default.
I asked you several times if you agreed that a lower purchasing price would help the CIC have a quicker positive impact on team affairs. Hardly malicious.
You have never answered that. Why ?

I actually enquired whether you are a St Mirren "supporter" rather than a fan. Stating that St Mirren is a worthless brand is not the sort of comment you would expect from a "supporter".
I understand your point Fras, you just don't understand that the point you are making is a complete red herring.
And yet again you have failed to state what the actual debt is going to be. So to make it really simple for everyone why not tell them exactly what the debt would be. That is better than long malicious blah, blah from your ignorant perspective.

Sorry, Buddie172...I'll buy you a drink sometime?!!!

"We've been trying 'Plan B' in this Country for the past 30 years and look where it's got us"...someone said that Once Upon A Time...

Its f**ked up ,mate. .it means that it is rejecting your IP address . If you ask me , I blame it on that f**ken Rooney advert , pile of shyte. .

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