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Helen Mirren, the ‘stairs’ scene in ‘The Savage Messiah’. Jeez’ Louise...

That entire page is about St Mirren. The top left headline is about Oran Kearney’s pal coming in to entertain the squad, and the top right headline is about some on this forum learning that Gus is coming back.

Celebrity fan ambassadors... just what we need. Pretty soon our place will have a Chairman, CEO, team manager, technical director, SMiSA, SLOs, Fan Council, the W7 crew, and celebrity fcuking ambassadors.... I want to be the official club ginger knobhead who posts pish on a forum. It’s the only vacancy as yet unfilled.

...without answering a genuinely posed question either. Seems strange that a genuine request to ask if there’s some sort of organisation within the group is met with stony silence, when a few pages ago, Doakes openly talked about some sort of discussion where ‘the majority’ decided to display the banned bedsheet. That would suggest there are meetings and votes, and a few people assuming the role of leaders within the group. It’s all getting very strange. Maybe I’m better off not knowing. Maybe there are funny handshakes involved, knowing glances, sneaky signals across the bar room table. Pointy white hats and burning crosses, effigies of Gordon Scott readied for November 5th, Triad style tattoos on left buttocks, an annual outing to the seaside in Glasgow Black Cabs.... Could be like a golf club. Basturts will be inflitrating the golf day soon... I’ve got my eye on them.

Must be Banksy that runs the W7 group then.

Before you go though, would appreciate you replying to the post I made about 'structure' or 'hierarchy' within the W7 group.

Wonder if you can answer something? The ‘W7 collective’... is there any structure to the group? Any identifiable leadership? Some sort of committee? Any criteria for someone to be classed as a ‘member’? Any individual(s) regarded by both the club and indeed police, as being the leaders, and if there are any issues - such as a banned banner being unfurled despite knowing it was banned, would the club / police know who ‘was in charge’? Serious question, because as you may or may not be aware, when I first started the ‘Inverness flag day’ idea when we were denied a home flag raising opener, I received a call at home from the Chief of Northern Constabulary. In no uncertain terms, he told me if any flag poles or sticks were involved and used as weapons in the event of any trouble, as far as they were concerned, my arse was toast. They considered me the leader of this ‘flag waving group’ who were about to invade Inverness. I am no criminal, there was no criminal intent, I just said we should wave flags and make noise... yet the police got hold of my phone number and using very strong language, warned me I’d be up to my neck in it if this idea saw any trouble... I suppose the recent ‘9 am visits to non-criminals’ are nothing new then. I was shitting myself all day up there, thankfully no-one decided to lamp a Teuchter with a stick that day. So, what’s the script with the W7 group? Do you have a funny handshake?

‘Suggestion’ regrets taking his banner paints to a ‘clear the air’ meeting with GLS...

So do I, given that the folk who made and displayed it did so following police visits to homes at 9am in the morning, when the people being visited are not criminals and are not being accused of being involved in criminal acts, or planning to be involved in any. However, the fact remains that part of the deal in the ‘W7 section’ being sanctioned by the club is that banners must be pre-approved, and in this instance, the club said the banner could not be displayed. Someone, or more than one person deliberately chose to ignore this, and from that point on, things seem to have deteriorated. You don’t need to take the club’s side, you don’t need to take the W7 crew’s side, but as an outsider looking in, there seems to be a legitimate cause for concern with these police visits, but simply cocking a snoot to the club’s directive, to my eyes, smacks of an immature attitude to what is a serious issue at heart. There also clearly appears to be two individuals rubbing each other up the wrong way here, but if the attitude from one of them is simply ‘fcuk it, we’ll just display the banner anyway’, then there’s only going to be one winner, which could end up being to the detriment of what has almost universally been a success in what was a characterless shoebox of a stadium. Just get round the table and get it sorted.

Hello, yes?

You know those online surveys that ask you to give a ‘10’ if completely satisfied, or a ‘0’ if completely unsatisfied? On this, I’m a ‘5’.

Can’t we just have Josh v GLS as the undercard to the big LPM v Baldy Webmeister title fight? When is that happening anyway?

I need more popcorn....why are my posts appearing twice when I’m only hitting the ‘post’ button once? Ach...

I need more popcorn.

Edited. Double post.

I would guess Gus’ remit covers a few areas that Gordon feels we are light in, as a club. Identifying and securing the signatures of signing targets. Scouting possible signings / watching future opponents. Having an in-depth and lengthy understanding of the Scottish scene that Oran doesn’t. Being an ex-manager who Oran could lean on for advice if required. Maybe the most important job though - at Gordon’s behest, run into W7 and kick the cnut in of any daftie with a questionable banner.

If the displaying of football related banners is not under question, then surely, if I wanted to, I could hold up a ‘Stubbs Out’ card or banner fron my W3 seat, every bit as much as I could hold up one saying ‘Give Stubbsy More Time’. The W7 crew, as some sort of loose collective, fans group, singing section, or whatever they are, as a condition of them being allowed to congregate there, would require permission. I am, however, merely an individual supporter. So would my ‘negative’ card have been confiscated, and any ‘positive’ one let go, should a director spot them from the main stand? If my banner said ‘Get to f**k Stubbs, you Scouse caaant, and take that weasel Jackson with you’, then fine, here come the stewards, but something of a non-offensive nature?

We did. It worked.

It does throw up some questions though. At many clubs, fans, rightly or wrongly, have held up banners saying ‘Wenger Out’ or ‘Ashley Out’ or ‘Venky’s Out’. One would imagine that if the W7 guys had said in advance to the club that they wanted to display a banner saying ‘Stubbs Out’ that the club would surely have blocked it. As all W7 banners need to be club-approved, sanctioning such a banner would be the club themselves saying ‘Stubbs Out’. What if myself and a mate, in W3, nothing to do with a group who need prior approval, held up such a banner? Would club officials, sitting in the main stand, call stewards to remove something that isn’t offensive? They might not like it, but surely I would have the right to do it?

Exactly. It’s hardly Trump v Kim Jong Un, Israel v Palestine, or An umpire v Serena Williams. Should be relatively simple to find consensus between both parties.

I think it sounds great. Would love a wee hurl in it sometime. Very interested in your ownership experience, and fair play for making the leap when electric cars are still a way away from being ‘the norm’. It’s coming though, sooner rather than later. I’m on-board when the range on a charge is greatly increased, prices are affordable, I have road tested one to gauge driver enjoyment and involvement, and if the thing can do 0-60 in under 10 seconds. Shitebag that I am.

W7 guys and the club just need to sit down and get it sorted. Should be simple enough to move on from this. I posted that I couldn’t see anything offensive on the banner. I still don’t, but if the club said ‘no’ in advance, the banner shouldn’t have been displayed. You can agree or disagree with the club saying ‘no’ to the banner, as is your right. Having said ‘no’ though, surely the way forward then was for the banner NOT to be displayed, then the W7 group to seek talks with the club. Still holding it up, despite the club telling them not to, smacks of an attitude that says ‘fcuk you, we’re displaying it anyway’ - whether that was from a couple of individuals who thought that, or as a wider group-sanctioned action, who knows? I would hope that anyone who posted on here ‘disgraceful action from the stewards to remove this banner’ did so unaware that the banner had already been vetoed by the club. If anyone posted their outrage knowing full well the banner had been banned, then get a grip. You’ll know full well why the stewards acted as they did. Surely any issues on both sides, can be discussed over a cuppa’ and sorted out? The W7 group are, in my opinion, very good with what they’ve been doing in a positive way at what was a somewhat soul-less stadium, but equally, the club have been doing well too, and acted swiftly to bag the Scouse dud and his sidekick... get it sorted lads.

Does your wife give her cars a pet name? Need to call this one ‘Anton’... has only just arrived, not sure what to make of it, could be quite good, but is maybe a bit slow and liable to run out of energy before the finish.

Calm down Chris. Just because we sacked your big pal Stubbsy. You were bad enough on BT Sport without coming on here...

Right ye’ are. That makes sense.