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ALBIONSAINT

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  1. On 2/9/2024 at 1:40 PM, portmahomack saint said:

    I'd ban the stuff altogether, Prohibition is what we need,  I've got loads of unused empty containers gathering dust since you right wing assholes took us out the E.U.

    I could turn them into Moonshine factories and speakeasies providing cheap drink for everyone, while supporting independence with my ill gotten gains. 

    Just what this town needs another Al Capone 

    You would have loved 1903. Bring back the coffee houses! 
     

    https://www.scotsman.com/whats-on/arts-and-entertainment/the-history-of-scotlands-dry-temperance-towns-1483804

     

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  2. 5 minutes ago, StanleySaint said:

    It was ever the case that following gaining power the impetus, once the initial policy programme has been dealt with, changes to maintaining power over ideology, and that is all parties.

    I concur, hubris sets in and they become completely obsessed with self preservation. That’s why we have democratic elections every four years. 

  3. 17 hours ago, Cookie Monster said:

     

    So Canada & Wales aren't countries. 😂

     

    Having lost one aunt to alcohol abuse I'm glad that my other aunt and uncle realised they were so close to following her to the grave. They both abstained for over 30 years living a good life.

    So I know it's not just pricing that'll work but also education.

     

    Also remembering that you failed to mention the reduction in hospital admissions.

    Here's a more comprehensive report.

    University of Glasgow study indicates a 13.4% reduction in deaths, and a 4.1% reduction in hospital admissions wholly attributable to alcohol consumption in the first two and a half years after MUP was introduced in May 2018. The report also concludes the policy had reduced deaths and hospital admissions where alcohol consumption may have been a factor.

     

    Researchers say they are confident there is a link between the introduction of MUP and the reduction in alcohol health harms. They also noted there had been significant reductions in deaths in areas of deprivation, suggesting MUP has helped reduce inequalities in alcohol-attributable deaths in Scotland.

    Don’t shoot the messenger, I am quoting the Scottish government via a bbc article about being the first country to implement MUP. It’s also worth being mindful that deaths directly related to alcohol rose last. 

  4. 6 hours ago, beyond our ken said:

    What about the research in Scotland that says there have been 13% fewer alcohol related deaths that have been attributed to this policy?  I'm never happy to pay more for stuff but I can say that I am far less likely to buy in stashes of alcohol than I was before the hike and as a consequence i do drink less now.

    The only thing wrong with this policy is that the retailers get to keep the difference when it should be used to support public services or drug and alcohol abuse mitigations.

    I should add, I can't find any evidence of the Greens wanting to ban alcohol, so, source?

    I am not getting into the holes in the 13% fewer deaths research that was used. Plenty others have torn it apart.

  5. 8 hours ago, portmahomack saint said:

    I'd ban the stuff altogether, Prohibition is what we need,  I've got loads of unused empty containers gathering dust since you right wing assholes took us out the E.U.

    I could turn them into Moonshine factories and speakeasies providing cheap drink for everyone, while supporting independence with my ill gotten gains. 

    Just what this town needs another Al Capone 

    Right wing? I don’t think you have to have right wing leanings to know or believe this is a terrible piece of legislation. 

  6. 7 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

    Not exactly rocket science but this seems to be acceptable for the "do gooders" while Mr & Mrs average drinkers has to fork out more while lining the Governments pockets.

    I owe you a couple of likes, mines have run out. 👍

     

    That’s all we need on here, a minimum like’s charge 😅

  7. 3 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

    Aye, hammer the majority who are "sensible" drinkers while having no effect on the people with a problem who will get the extra money from any means they can.

     

    I thought they would have learnt from previous mistakes. When you increase the price then people who are addicted to alcohol will simply turn to petty crime (shop lifting, breaking into cars etc to fund the addiction) the petty crime rates dropped dramatically when methadon was introduced. 

  8. 3 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

    @ALBIONSAINT beat me to it with the latest idea from the Scottish Nazi party to increase the unit price on alcohol, already at a might 50p to an astonishing 65p.

    A 30% rise with nothing more than waffle to support this move. 

    Estimates, nothing concrete that the current stealth tax is having any effect on the very people it's supposed to help. 

    Alcohol deaths

    Based on comparisons with England, it estimated there were 13.4% fewer deaths related to alcohol than would have happened without the policy, as well as 4.1% fewer hospital admissions.

    However, it reported "limited evidence of any reduction in consumption" among people with alcohol dependence.

    However, Scottish Conservative health spokesman Dr Sandesh Gulhane said MUP was not a "miracle cure" and "simply punishes responsible drinkers".

    "As a practising GP, I am well aware of the plight of alcoholism in Scotland," he said. "However, it is clear that MUP is not reducing alcohol-related deaths as the SNP are claiming.

    "What is perhaps most concerning is the report from Public Health Scotland that highlighted that problem drinkers are choosing to skip meals in order to buy alcohol.

    "I am deeply concerned that the deputy first minister did not address my concerns on the failure of MUP to reduce alcohol-related deaths and help dependent drinkers."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68238846

    There is a reason why Scotland is the first and only country in the world to implement it. It doesn’t work.

  9. 2 hours ago, elvis said:

    Do you see a pattern with those results if it continues we are getting beat on Wednesday and winning  on Sunday would prefer other way around.

    Yeah a pattern of us being dross for a full decade. 

  10. 2 hours ago, Swiss_Saint said:

    Is that how it works, amazing , you mean he can score in any game given the right service wow.

     

    p.s. the sarcasm isn't aimed at you but the people who are very negative

    last 5 results

    win 3-0 v Aberdeen

    Loss 0-3 v Celtic - no great surprise there

    win 1-0 v QoTS - should have been more but we will take it

    loss 0-1 v Rangers - should have been at least a draw, Newco Rangers felt the need to time waste such was their lack of domination

    win 3-0 v Hibs - dominant all game and good goals (penalty was soft), could have been more

    so 7 goals in 5 games, 2 losses both of which we would normally expect and 2 dominant displays against teams who on paper (bigger support, more money etc) we should struggle against. Yet we still have people who are talking us down.

    Enjoy the highs folks and quit moaning, best Saints side for a long time, if you are down now wont be long till you are suicidal based on my 50 years of supporting Saints, I have watched some dross.

    Just think the whole of the 90s 

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