ALBIONSAINT

I will be there, nothing better than seeing old firm fans go into meltdown as the 4th goal goes in the net. 

I concur, hubris sets in and they become completely obsessed with self preservation. That’s why we have democratic elections every four years. 

A FACT which completely outweighs all the other "whataboutery" that's being presented, and believed by some, as FACTS. 

Don’t shoot the messenger, I am quoting the Scottish government via a bbc article about being the first country to implement MUP. It’s also worth being mindful that deaths directly related to alcohol rose last. 

It was ever the case that following gaining power the impetus, once the initial policy programme has been dealt with, changes to maintaining power over ideology, and that is all parties.

I will never go for another party in a Uk election because I believe in an independent Scotland UNLESS I think ALBA could win in the area i live. This is NOT about the SNP. It's about why they were formed. I hope to convince any who are being duped by all the unionist, nonsensical media coverage not to be fooled into voting for red Tories who are paying lip service to Scotland to steal their votes before ignoring their wishes. SNP is the only vote that gets us to where we need to be. THEN we can consider getting rid of the SNP.

Given the outgoing SNP health minister tried to cheat the taxpayer of £11K I don’t trust a word out of the mouths of these politicians. 
 
The SNP have lost a great deal of trust with the people who believed in independence. 
By the way @faraway saint what’s wee Nics motorhome like now you’ve had it a while?

Read and research the full article and you will perhaps find the answer you seek. 


 
This policy has failed. The SNP policy appears to be along the lines of….
“Don’t back down - double down!”
I would hazard a guess it will be a treble or quadruple measure.
 

I am not getting into the holes in the 13% fewer deaths research that was used. Plenty others have torn it apart.

In 3 recent games, against Aberdeen, Hibs and Dundee, we have scored 8 goals and kept 3 clean sheets. In each game media comment has almost all been about the beaten team ('very poor game from X', 'Y were strangely lacklustre', 'Z's poorest game of the season'). Analysis on radio, on TV and in the newspapers has focused on these poor performances with various explanations offered. However there has been no mention of the common factor in these games - good performances by St. Mirren. Very few of the pundits, analysts or columnists seem to have grasped that the poor performances have been due to our good play. Very disappointing, given that we have been in the top 6 all season. Surely we deserve a bit more credit than we're getting.

All good points.....but seriously who cares what media say.... on budget we should be fighting relegation...on squad we should be at best 8th.... on manager easily 4th or 5th.... players are clearly executing better and time in Spain plus good window is paying  off.....When we beat Celtic i dont care on headlines just attend and support when u can

Hey, enough, I'm right here you know.

Agreed, all it does is add to those who have a problem by adding cost onto high unit low cost drinks that is notable whilst not having any impact on premium cost high ABV as the manufacturer is already above the minimum unit cost. This doesn't stop drinking and the sceptic in me thinks this is another way of recovering from the disaster of the deposit return scheme and tax deficit. 

I'd ban the stuff altogether, Prohibition is what we need,  I've got loads of unused empty containers gathering dust since you right wing assholes took us out the E.U.
I could turn them into Moonshine factories and speakeasies providing cheap drink for everyone, while supporting independence with my ill gotten gains. 
Just what this town needs another Al Capone 

I thought they would have learnt from previous mistakes. When you increase the price then people who are addicted to alcohol will simply turn to petty crime (shop lifting, breaking into cars etc to fund the addiction) the petty crime rates dropped dramatically when methadon was introduced. 

There is a reason why Scotland is the first and only country in the world to implement it. It doesn’t work.

In other news..... The main forum has reported a 675% drop in posts and a 94% drop in threads in 2024..... it must be noted that the sin bin section has shown the reverse trend with posts up a staggering 1673% ..... and threads up a mindboggling 3189% . ... no enquiry necessary obviously 😴😴😴😴😴

I believe this is just another case of the tail wagging the dog. My only hope is that enough people stand up and say enough is enough and convince their representatives to vote against this ridiculous policy which has never worked. What is required is education. Spain, France and countries prove that price is not the driving factor. This policy is just playing to the anti alcohol brigade, mainly in the green party, who basically want alcohol to be outlawed.

Not exactly rocket science but this seems to be acceptable for the "do gooders" while Mr & Mrs average drinkers has to fork out more while lining the Governments pockets.
I owe you a couple of likes, mines have run out. 👍
 

Aye, hammer the majority who are "sensible" drinkers while having no effect on the people with a problem who will get the extra money from any means they can.
 

@ALBIONSAINT beat me to it with the latest idea from the Scottish Nazi party to increase the unit price on alcohol, already at a might 50p to an astonishing 65p.
A 30% rise with nothing more than waffle to support this move. 
Estimates, nothing concrete that the current stealth tax is having any effect on the very people it's supposed to help. 
Alcohol deaths
Based on comparisons with England, it estimated there were 13.4% fewer deaths related to alcohol than would have happened without the policy, as well as 4.1% fewer hospital admissions.
However, it reported "limited evidence of any reduction in consumption" among people with alcohol dependence.
However, Scottish Conservative health spokesman Dr Sandesh Gulhane said MUP was not a "miracle cure" and "simply punishes responsible drinkers".
"As a practising GP, I am well aware of the plight of alcoholism in Scotland," he said. "However, it is clear that MUP is not reducing alcohol-related deaths as the SNP are claiming.
"What is perhaps most concerning is the report from Public Health Scotland that highlighted that problem drinkers are choosing to skip meals in order to buy alcohol.
"I am deeply concerned that the deputy first minister did not address my concerns on the failure of MUP to reduce alcohol-related deaths and help dependent drinkers."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68238846