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  1. 59 minutes ago, div said:

    Started off guests £6 to get in, members £10 a month

    Moved to guests £3 to get in

    Now open to all people after the game

    So, 3 iterations.

     

    Fair enough... if you want to ignore the rest of the changes that have been made. 

     

    If the members are happy with the set up, great. 

     

     

  2. How many different iterations of access arrangements have there been now? Must be into double figures?

    I get that they are devoting a lot of time and effort to this cause (for which they should be applauded) but the people involved need to realise that simplicity is most productive, efficient and effective.

    As good as the facility may be, what a farce the whole process is. I dare say they are loosing a lot of custom for this reason. If folk have to look up the rules every other week to find out who is allowed in and when, the whole process is failing.

    Simplicity, simplicity, simplicity, simplicity.

  3. On 03/01/2017 at 8:05 AM, civilsaint said:

    Ok. I'm genuinely interested, have no grudge to bear either way and have not indulged in abuse.

    Is SMISA a Community Benefit Society? And how does it fulfil this roll?

     

    On 03/01/2017 at 9:25 AM, rea said:

    It is a CBSformerly an IPS but it has adopted new articles of association which include the "Asset Lock" rules from a CIC.....simple emoji4.png

     

    Thanks REA. 

    Could someone from SMISA possibly expand on the roll in the community? 

    I'm firmly of the belief that the community aspect is fundamental to the success of fan ownership, hence why I'm interested. Some people will happily spend 12 a month solely to ensure the fans own the club, but I suspect there is another group of people who would happily spend that 12 quid if they saw some real tangible benefit to the wider community.

    There's no right or wrong, but SMISA should be clever enough to appeal to all potential investors.

  4. Surely I can't be the only person who couldn't give a flying f**k about how many people are on the SMiSA board?
    In terms of what they are doing with my zillions of pounds in direct debit payments, so long as it isn't funding the renewal of Trident and Theresa May's next pair of leather trousers, I'm relaxed about that.
     


    That though is the attitude that facilitates gross mismanagement of finances of community groups. Unless you know who they are and how decisions are taken you can't possibly conclude that your money is being spent wisely. There's enough history of community groups misappropriating cash to suggest you should care.

    Note: I am absolutely not accusing anyone involved in SMISA of mismanaging finances. Transparency/clarity is in everyone's interests.
  5. 23 hours ago, renfrew said:

    ...the British Government (Tories)  being unable to decide what kind of energy that they wanted for power station long term was the final nail. Nuclear, oil, gas or coal ? Lack of decision from them and the downside of the oil industry was the final nail in the coffin of what was 1 of the biggest companies in the west of Scotland. Sad day :mellow:

     

    And the SNP led Scottish Government....

  6. 54 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

    Thats a coincidence eh?

    in the season we sell out and kick families and children out of their seats to accomodate two truly bigoted supports, we raise a chunk of extra income, and thanking god manage to pay off the previous directors loans.

    aye they did a lot for the club those gents, only stopping short of singing the sash to welcome our opponents on the last home game of the season.

     

    Are you suggesting that they did not deserve to have their interest free loans paid off?

    Or are you saying you would rather their loans were paid off using the existing income? If so, that would leave the club in a worse position.

    With people like you around I certainly wouldn't be loaning any money to the club and wouldn't advise anyone else to either.

  7. 47 minutes ago, santaponsasaint said:


    I do know. But would take long to explain. Next time your in the club come and say hello and I will explain.

    It can't be THAT long a story? There aren't really that many options;

    • The projector was broken;
    • Staff could not work the projector;
    • Could not get signal / not got contract;
    • Screen not working; or
    • ???

    It isn't the UN Security Council that they're running in that bit of the stadium, just an over sized living room.

  8. Oh look, our Highland colleagues in Inverness are more switched on and engaged;

    Today:

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    Inverness Caledonian Thistle FC appreciate that the situation has long since passed the point of frustration and the last thing fans want to hear is another apology. We can confirm that discussions are still ongoing and we are bitterly disappointed at the situation with in-store deliveries, despite receiving repeated assurances from JD.

     

    2nd Sept:

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    During a meeting with JD Sports representatives earlier this week we once again expressed our serious displeasure at the level of service provided to the club and just as importantly our supporters."

    "Whilst we appreciate they (JD) have experienced some disruption during transportation etc it does not excuse the length of time it has taken them to conclude their contractual obligations."

    "The service we have received this season in terms of kit delivery for training/playing kit and replica kit has been frustrating for us all. The club are now reviewing its position with JD Sports and discussions are ongoing."

     

  9. 12 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

    Is that the exclusive on the 1877 club being scrapped then? Funny old way for the members to find out i guess.

    C'mon, it is pretty clear that Div is simply making a prediction in that regard. He isn't stating anything as fait accompli.

  10. 57 minutes ago, div said:

    Maybe it does take a genius as everytime I've been in the club has been at it's busiest from about half one.

    Drinks stop being served at 1445 and the place generally starts to empty from about 1430 as folk make their way to their seats.

    On Saturday there are two high profile games on live TV from noon. I expect a few buds will want to watch the games and enjoy a couple of pre-match drinks.

    The club only holds 300 and I'd hope to see it full.

    You literally can't please everyone. That isn't up for debate, as it's a fact!

    Fair enough on the timings, my point was more that for don't spend a significant time in the place to justify the fee.

    My motive isn't about seeing it full this Saturday. My motive is about making it as engaging and sustainable and ultimately as profitable as possible every week. Booking spaces and charging entry isn't going to do that in the medium to long term. Even more baffling that the  £3 is reduced from the normal rate!!

    Talking in a literal sense it is correct to say "you can't please everyone", but you can certainly please a lot more people than the current setup manages. 

  11. The club is  open for 3 hours before kick off, and an hour afterwards.

    You really can't please some folk!



    Nothing to do with "pleasing" but more to do with increasing profit and supporter engagement.

    The place may well be open for 3 hours but it shouldn't take a genius to point out that the vast, vast majority of footfall will be over the last hour or less.





  12. 47 minutes ago, buddiecat said:

    That was the proposed plan from last season which was knocked back by building control, the club is in new hands now, and going by how Gordon Scott speaks about the stadium he will not scrimp on anything and wants everything to look good and work properly.

    That is EXACTLY what I want to hear. 

    When it comes to property, either do it right or don't do it at all. And if you can't afford to maintain it, don't build it in the first place. 

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