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  1. You make some decent points there and I don't disagree with most of it but the flaw in your argument is that almost no clubs in Scotland sell players for money.

    That means they must be finding ways to survive which don't depend on sales like that.

    I'd argue the quality on the pitch is not suffering significantly compared to where it was 15 years ago.

    Most teams play a good quality of football now. We see almost no long ball hoofing for example and we see many examples of flair and exciting play.

    So whilst I see where you are coming from, the evidence is showing you are wrong.

    But some do get development fees which, as far as I'm concerned, is a method of cheating smaller clubs. Money changes hands. No matter what you call it. It's only the amounts that vary.

    As for the quality. The very fact the players are better coached is to do with the quality of the coaching, which will undoubtedly deteriorate as the extra revenue from TV etc. diminishes. This is a self perpetuating situation as, as the income decreases, so does the potential for player development. Unless we continue to invest internally and that means continuing the transfer setup as it is the carrot which ensures clubs keep bringing through talent.

  2. That makes no sense whatsoever.

    Any business model relying on money from transferring employees isn't a business worth having.

    Clubs nurture talent because they have no choice. Where else are they going to get players from?

    Football is not a typical business arena. When clubs attempt to bring normal business ethics into their environment it ends in a poorer product. It's entertainment. Even more. It's tribal. The clubs have a finite customer base which is typically much lower than most businesses. They need to augment their income by uncommon means in an attempt to reach their goal. (No pun intended). Unlike a lot of workers, footballers have the luxury of being paid for playtime. They have the luxury of being contracted and, if they fail, they are entitled to full financial compensation for the remainder of that contract. IF they decide they want to move after signing this contract it seems reasonable that the club should receive compensation for their endeavours to improve the player and to finance replacing said either through they themselves paying compensation to another club or to develop a replacement. The players also receive part of the compensation.

  3. We have absolutely no right to hold Kenny or any other player back.

    Kenny deserves his chance to go if he wants and after what he's given us he shouldn't be used as a pawn and held for ransom.

    It's possible he'll have a release clause in his contract. If that figure is struck and he wants ti go then we should wish him well.

    If there isn't a release clause and he wants to go then that's tough titty on our club.

    The day all transfer fees are outlawed can't come soon enough.

    Human rights and freedom are more important than money and they are certainly FAR more important than football.

    The day transfer fees are outlawed is the day smaller clubs stop nurturing talent. We will have poorer facilities and poorer coaches to teach them.

  4. Plaudits go to, not only the back four, but the midfield in front.

    Goodwin was IMMENSE but he wasn't alone in defending. This was a lesson in how to hold onto a lead. Yes. We rode our luck on two occasions but that's football. We also used the "outball" to almost good effect. In essence. This was an excellent away performance and an excellent away win.

    We looked like a team tonight.

  5. This. Haven't rock bands being doing this for decades now by recording albums in Ireland or living here, but living abroad for a week (I paraphrase) to avoid a big tax hit?

    There's all sorts of avoidance going on. It stinks, but if it isn't illegal, then we could argue the moral issue all day - which would lead to a massive difference in our subjective views on it.

    Is Gary Teale more or less of a cnut than Def Leppard, who all decided to buy houses near Dublin? You decide.

    Merchant seaman use this loophole as a norm. I have known some to take a 6 week holiday in the carribean to "circumnavigate" paying tax.

  6. People need to understand no such thing.

    Like I said above, using a legal getout isn't a defence.

    This is a moral issue not a legal one.

    As for the scheme in question? It has yet to be decided whether that was purely a tax avoidance vehicle.

    If it was, then it's abuse - whether legal or not.

    Some might ask if it's morally right to financially penalise people because of their earning potential by way of punitive tax banding

  7. sportingintelligence@sportingintel1 min1 minute ago

    BBC will pay £204m for MOTD for three years from 2016-17 onwards (£68m per yr), up from £179.7m now (£59.9m per yr). Thank goodness.

    £59.9m per year up to £68m. Plus the money the BBC pay for the FA Cup and the FL72 highlights. A genuine question - how much do the BBC pay to Scottish football for SPFL games, League Cup & Scottish Cup?

    Answer in pounds and pence? I don't know exactly how many pence but £0 won't be far wrong. Oh,.... and peanuts.

  8. Hopefully , hopefully , they get a wee fat clueless Scottish ref' , just like the ones we know , that should help things along. .

    Hope this helps!whistling.gif

    Edited to add.

    http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/rangers/robertson-hopes-rangers-can-recapture-the-spirit-of-92-against-celtic-195731n.117195859

    I can't help but laugh.

    Asking a zombie to find a spirit.

    Is Stephen king in the building?

  9. A lot of folk, you know, use wee inserts, you know, to give them time to , a mean, think, eh, don't you do, well, you know, that too? As I say.

    Edited to add,.

    Perhaps he's conscious of the number of players, ex players and managers who constantly say, you know, you know!

  10. Personally I think Thistle are "all over the place" with their pricing policy for this match.Their season ticket holders can bring a friend for a tenner.Why don't they just make £10 for adults and £5 concessions and free for kids which they are already doing.Have they forgotten the match is live on TV.What an utter fiasco.

    How often do we reduce the price when we're televised at our patch?

  11. Don't see the point in selling Mclean for 250k this window even IF the Argentine's do buy the club!

    If he continues to show the form he has we could make more than that in the next transfer window!

    Given the fact he is currently our best player and our most consistent striker just now! It would be mad to sell unless the bid exceeds 700k!

    As for a team of south American's coming to the club before window slams shut doubtful!

    If a player comes from outside europe they need a EU work visa and that can take 14 working day's to issue!

    I think Kenny still has a year on his contact? And if he doesn't we are entitled to a development fee!

    So selling Kenny and getting relegated because we had no time left in the Tranafer window to use any proceeds from the sale would cost the club more than 250k in the long term!

    Steven Mallan contract exstension is insurance on an asset and makes sense again whether the current board or the Argies easy decision!

    And the last point is if the Argentine's want to sell Kenny why is that holding up the sale?

    IF THEY WANT TO SELL EASIER IF THEY OWN THE CLUB I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT!!!

    If they hold a spanish or portugese passport, which a lot do, that's unneccessary.

  12. Are you trying to say that the wrestling wasn't real ... how f**king dare you. whistling.gif

    Ma wee granny used to go up to the telly and say things like "you leave that wee boy alone" and then skelp the telly with her handbag. She was suffering from dementia at the time, mind you. That was when it was the "real" wrestling with your Mick McManus and King Kong Kirk and Catweasel and Kendo Nagasaki and ...

    Shirley Crabtree!

    Jessies the lot of them.

    And those wrestlers wurnae much better!

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