sally02

Hope you rolled down your window and asked if he wanted a lift?

Your mole, perhaps?

So now your telling us you grow oranges in your garden?

And lovestreet's burd, I've heard from an inside source!

I am sure the suspected cases, and a few on here besides, hope it will be left with you!

I'm not in Arbroath, so i guess anywhere in comparison is a happy place, whether it's close at hand or faraway ?

Get yourself a life ya plastic consumer orientated neanderthal - give up your telly, car, microwave, holidays in spain and wherever, and then I might consider your opinion, ya hypocrite - plastic rules your life, or are you unaware of that fact?

More than £2m for sponsorship and another £2m in sales - aye, let's laugh at them right enough, when we've got a logo the size of a black's f---king tent (offcuts maybe) on our shirts!

No - but it's on at the Showcase, so you just go along and watch it with your sweeties, while we have a few beers with some Geordie lads and gan oan doon tae the match to welcome the new season along. P.S. It's on in theatre No. 1 - you'll know where to go if you watch for Gus going in!

Your opinion But in my opinion, it's a great idea, with all their U21's on show and taking in the club environment, seeing what Paul and Connor experienced in their time here, best possible chance for Danny, Tommy and the fans to run the rule over any potential loanees who might be in the frame for a spell up here, and also one or 2 first team players thrown in. £15 quid would get you into the pictures, a bucket of carbohydrate, a cup of sugary water and a seat in the dark, but I'll be at SMP with my flag and my dreams for 2013/2014, ready to see the black and white spectacle - it will be a good day out! Come on ye Saints

bet you've been in gaol though! And the crime was ? ? ?

He might have, but it's certainly not crystal balls he's got in it!

Part-timer!

No, it's not clear, or simplistic English - you ask if you want Rangers to cease to exist, then answer by saying NO, which means you want them to exist, then say we would be better without Rangers. ? I'm as confused as Bluto!

bejesus, begorra, didn't know you were on death's door

Correct Stuart - my mistake, just shows you how being in a supermarket for too long can brainwash the mind! Is that what we will come back as if liquidated - a TESCO instead of a NEWCO?

ASDA built the stadium within their budget, and the project manager for the club was GLS

Sorted it for you!

From you! The Sky Contact is still in place, it is a sale of goods from the clubs in the SPL to Sky, therefore is turnover income budgeted for as any other business would do - only when the contract does not exist do things change. You are intimating that all SPL boards should have excluded it from their income projections even although the contract is still live until SKY make a move to cancel, alter or indicate they will support Scottish Football through this mess.

Same situation all the other 10 clubs in the SPL are in give or take a few percent either way, and if you want to look at any top league in Europe, take away the TV money and see how many clubs could survive without it. When you look at the new deal in England, in comparison, SKY\ESPN are paying peanuts to our league, out of the petty cash really, so they might not even bother to rip up the contract just now, rather sit back and see if Scottish Football can come up with a better all round product. It may transpire that the CIC membership don't buy the 52% just now, and 1 of the 2 "outside interested parties" either dive in with funding, or walk away, or the consortium have to sit tight on a shareholding with a diminished value - one thing the rangers debacle has proved is that in administration or liquidation, the fixed assets of any football ground, training centre(we don't actually own ours) etc. are worth hee-haw, so book values and reality are miles apart. It may transpire we can buy that 52% for less than £1,000,000 and have it paid off a lot quicker. Whole different ball game may be about to unfold for top flight Scottish Football.

Div, Could 10000 hours not negotiate the missing amount required, say for example £200k as has been mooted already, with the consortium members, as loans repayable at the same 8% interest as BII. On the above assumptions, they will have £700k paid up front anyway ? In that way their money is working for them handsomely in these poor economic times, and the additional 50% subscriptions should match the repayments, that according to the original calculation for the £7500 covering the BII loan of £500k. i.e. an extra £3500 monthly would cover £200-£250k loan.

What about information booths set up in the town centre, braehead, the airport, etc for a few days and information printed on beer mats distributed to all the pubs in the town and beyond?

Not saying there is, Div, but the "loan" would be from the consortium, and if they were paid the £700,000 over say 10 years, with interest at what they would achieve putting the money in a high street bank, it would give them a commercial return on their money, but for the club would be much cheaper than "theoretically" borrowing the same amount from a bank at a much higher lending rate. i.e. equal return for the consortium if they were minded to invest the money in a bank account, cheaper option for club/CIC if they were in a position to borrow that amount = missing out the greedy middleman!

Maybe the answer lies in the Board accepting the £1.3m still available at the moment, and "loaning" the balance of £700,000 with interest, over a number of years to the club or CIC. In effect The selling consortium loaning the money at a rate similar to what they might receive in a bank deposit account, say 2%, rather than the club or CIC borrowing from a Bank at extortionate present day rates of 5%,6%,7% or more.

At last we have a wee run of reasoned, sensible points and discussion on this issue from the last few posters - maybe it will become a trend? I totally agree we need broader exposure for the CIC, as the online forums appear to have been the preferred vehicle so far, and looking at the number of posters on our forums, represents only a small minority of the potential fanbase that might be interested in the CIC in some way. To involve as many fans/local businesses/community groups to get involved as possible should be the on-going ambition, not just accepting that those signed up to date are all that are interested, and I do hope that will happen. As the ownership of the club stands at present, ordinary fans who are shareholders have no effective input into the running of the club - if the CIC model can bring on board more of the fans of the club, that can change.