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Suspend the vote and save £250k in up to nine years or use the money for the betterment of St Mirren football club now, funding projects that may make us better on the park that we would ultimately not of gotten without SMISA funds. For me it's the here and now. Who knows the money could make the difference in a league position, cup run or promotion that makes St Mirren as a club more than £250k.

Some good points on this thread and the saving funds option would be absolutely fine if that's how the vote goes. For me though (as I've said in other threads) it's all about St Mirren. That's the team I support and that's the team I want to give the best possible chance now and in the future. It's all fantastic planning for the future when we own the club but in the here and now if they think a sports scientist would benefit them and gym equipment that's where my X is going this quarter. Not saying about anyone in particular but I hope the 'it's us and them' approach disappears pronto. I'm a lot more concerned about the benefit to St Mirren football club than saying these are things they should be funding themselves. If we can save their budget in anyway, brilliant [emoji106]

Yeah can see your point. I suppose the way I looked at it was the cash outlay was in advance on what seems to be a rolling contract. No real risk attached because if we chose to discontinue the funding, the contract simply ends. I think this will be a close one this quarter.

Glad SMISA cleared up the misunderstanding very professionally. Just shows jumping to conclusions isn't the best approach. For me Vote 1 Sports scientist Vote 2 Gym equipment. It's all great paying money to community projects and the panda club, completely agree with it. However for my monthly payment the needs of St Mirren football club will come first. I feel they're two uses that will help the first team perform and maybe even freeing up the sports scientist money might help with a new signing.

Neil Lennon has slapped a £5 million price tag on McGinn's head and talk of Rangers still wanting McLean. That would be a couple of nice wee paydays for the buddies... Wishful thinking right enough.

Boooo

It was the comment that we'd of finished on more points last season if we kept Rae and comparing Rae and Ross performances in league cups and their first seasons here. None of it is relevant. If Jack Ross is six league games deep and we still haven't won a game then we'll see but it's far too early for any of this rubbish.

I was going to come on here and say 'I can't believe this thread hasn't died, give it a rest' then I read some of TopCats posts... Now I can fully see why this has endured for over seven months! Reading through the thread I think it's pretty clear he's just trolling now.

I unfortunately already have bought my ticket to this game. Only positive I can think is we might see a few of the young players given a run out to see what level they're at.

As opposed to posters that hammer the club at every opportunity? Is that better... Things are never going to be perfect at our club, like any club. There's always going to be tough decisions that have to be made. Banging my head against the wall here yet again but when it comes to the club decisions about things like opening stands and recommendations for SMISA money I'm satisfied the people running our club will make the the choices they believe best suits our club. People can moan all they want about stuff like that, for me it's pointless.

I already said above I don't agree with the mixing of fans and feel the club could of done more to make them aware they were in a family stand. Nothing to stop segregating off an area of this stand for the small amount of traveling fans. What was there 105 or something like that? Would you rather the club experienced all the additional costs in opening up a 2,000+ capacity stand for 100 people? I'm sorry but my priorities are a bit different. I don't sit in the family stand but I did for the first few years after we moved to the stadium and I can honestly say it wouldn't bother me one bit. Anything that financially benefits my football team without a massive impact on fans is okay with me.

People questioning the benefit of a sports scientist... Back in my day

I'm not saying it's a no go area, as in ABSOLUTELY THIS SHOULD NOT BE DISCUSSED. I just think it's a bit of a persnickety point. Spending money on something we don't really need to that won't improve the club and arguably won't really have a massive impact on anyone's match experience. I know you'll argue fans in the family end but I don't see an issue if they did it on the rare occasions this would happen and segregate the away fans. I also have faith that the club wouldn't do this where it would heighten the safety concerns to a risky level. Dumbarton, Livi fans are not going to be a great deal of trouble but fans like Airdrie with a history of being idiots, I don't think they'd do it. On a separate point as well, I wouldn't be happy with the club spending avoidable money on something like this, SMISA or St mirren money. i think fans need to be a wee bit more focused on what we can do to improve our club, than what can we spend money on to make the fitbaw on a Saturday a wee bit nicer. What's really important?

Why would we reduce it when we have so many people willing to pay £12/ £25? That makes no sense. I'd see your point more if we just said the full money would go to the buyout.

Sure my understanding is it would only really come into effect in cup games and maybe against Dumbarton or Brechin who will take small supports and may be put in the family stand. I don't see any issue with cornering off a bit of that stand because it's never close to full (didn't agree with the mixing they did on Tuesday) So IMO it's a complete unnecessary waste of money for such a small impact when we could use it on other aspects of the club. Not something the SMISA money should impact, the placing of fans should remain a club decision. Because we pay £2 a month into a fund doesn't mean we should have the right to question how they police the ground. If we want three stands with all St Mirren fans in it then we need to increase attendance numbers. We can't moan about it if that stand is only having a couple hundred per games. Segregating a stand happens in lots of football stadiums, don't see the big deal. People also saying 'There's only one toilet and one pie stall' well you'd have the same issue if the stand was filled with more St Mirren fans so what's the big deal? I also don't imagine there would be much trouble with the team fans going in there (they should be made aware it's a no swearing stand though)

I agree with the principle of choice but to me five options would dilute the outcome. You could arguably get something passing with only 21% of fans backing in the above scenario. Club has said as much in previous votes. Bank it is always an option, it doesn't have to be on the vote. A no vote is a vote to bank the money. Any fan that needs this called out separately has to have a serious word with themselves and you would have to question their intellect.

That's nothing to do with SMISA funds. That's a club decision

As I've said before, it's not us and them. I don't see why people can't see that the people running our club will have the best interest of St Mirren football club at heart.

Wow be careful Shull! I don't want to have to agree with you on something! I can see the merit on spending it on something like this but I also think there should be an option to save the money for down the line. Would have to look at the different proposals to make up my mind and the opinion of the club.

The SMISA money is there to be spent. Whether that be on community, club or fan experience is subject to debate. For me betterment of our club comes first.

TV's under the stand would be a luxury that wouldn't have an impact on performance or results. Sports scientist would be a luxury that might very well impact results. It's a no brainer if that was the choices.

It's outwith their control, they are waiting on a third party to resolve.

It certainly wouldn't be for most of the users on here,

I'll let you know if you go viral [emoji23][emoji23] (not my Twitter by the way)

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] brilliant. I bet he's made his wheelie bin into a bomb shelter.