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So This is where your point falls down completely. There is a massive difference between keeping the ball rolling as you put it and getting players over the line. The latter for us and other teams at our level can be a timely process. 
To confuse no signings with no targets, back up targets, we’ll scouted players and plans in place to sign the right quality makes no sense. It’s also completely contrary to what Goodwin has said in several interviews (list as long as my arm) 
whether you like Gus or not we only have one window as a reference point so far for his signing capabilities and that’s January  even the most negative of fan on here would struggle to say it was anything other than successful 
 

I’m just struggling to understand the criticism of Gus when his first and only full window was a success. 
Does other clubs signing quicker mean they’ve managed to recruit well? Seem to remember Dundee and St Mirren both being pretty snappy last summer. 
My whole point is the impatience in our supporters, that have this summer recruitment written off before we see who most of the new signings will be. It boggles the mind. 
Should point out I am not making excuses for the league cup, that’s inexcusable even for this squad and they personally need to shoulder the blame along with the coaches but these things happen, it doesn’t need to define our season. 
People wanting to place blame on recruitment right now need to ask themselves though. Is it a question of blame? 

The players in question, I am sure must be worth the wait if the club are sticking by their targets. Quality over quantity.
I know it has been said that the gap left between departing manager and new manager, has probably set us back 2 weeks in preparation, if not longer if you consider a different style of play etc. It is not an ideal scenario, though that would explain the time we are waiting to get said players over the line. 
 

Doesn't Dundee have foreign investors. 

I bought into BtB because I genuinely believed that as a club we were in freefall with a board who by their own admission had chucked it. The process reinvigorated the club, their were certain concerns i had regarding how 'new revenue' could be raised if at the outset Smisa had no money to invest, and the chairman wasn't investing. 
I had further concerns of the make up of the board as I coudnt see again where any initial investment might come from? On querying why Wardrobe managed to get a blazer after doing all he could to prevent Smisa's success with BtB, where he actually coralled the fans council into not supporting BtB! It was "suggested" he got a blazer because he 'might' invest. That was obviously bullshit on his and perhaps the chairman's behalf as not only has there been no investment, but directors now take not insignificant expenses out of the club!
Thommo at the time was relucant to openly support BtB for the same reasons, those being he couldn't see how we would prosper long term without ongoing investment. Then when the club started asking for smisa money to buy matchballs, hand dryers, loans to fix the USH, and going apeshit because members voted to spend £1200 of THEIR money on a local youth team who have been providing free coaching and involvement for decades.... it was obvious they'd screwed the pooch!
money from transfers of players they inherited, or picked up a sell on fee from have papered over the huge 'money pit' that is the board's hiring and firing strategy..... until now!
with seemingly only Hladky likely to fetch a fee in the near future, Goodwin has walked into the lowest budget in the league and lower than some in the league below. 
He has inherited a squad, that without all the players who left this summer would have seen us relegated..! This Ross knew, and drove the length and breadth of the UK to find his 'out'. Our chances now of picking up the quality of Popesc, Musek, Corbu, Hodson, Dreyer, Jackson, Anton, Hammil etc are slim to nil. Ffs big Nazon couldnt crack a regular start for us last season, oh how we'd love it to have him available now!
the big dutch guy wasnt going to be the new Thommo, but he did look like he could be a real handful to defences if we could get the ball to him. Unfortunately we do not have, or are offering the level of wages to sign players of this quality again. I think our best bet now is to try and secure a couple of really good loanees, you may not have to pay their full wages, and if they get injured, or don't come up to snuff you can ship them back to their club,, and try again.
the hundreds of thousands frittered away have now put us in a real fix. As i have posted before, i dont freak out one way or the other about these league cup group game results. It is to me pre season and a bit of a mix up. That said if you cant put EKFC, DUFC and Endinburgh to the sword, and at least progess like last season then it's obvious how poorly prepared, run and financed we currently are.
my real and honest fear is now for Goody, who this rotten board will not hesitate in hanging out to dry in September, like Stubbs last year, in the hope that the fans will pile on the hate, and deflect all the blame from them to the manager again. 
You can almost smell the fear coming from the boardroom, and they arent going to stand up and shoulder the responsibility when they've got a manager and technical director (ffs) to wheel out for the  firing squad.
 

I would be amazed if we have the lowest budget in the division with Accies & Livi included..

Yeah that’s correct, not at a penny personal gain from the money he’s invested. Shameful some of the abuse he’s getting on Facebook and Twitter. 

Please don't shoot me for asking, but .................... is it not the case that buy the buds is ONLY possible because GLS put up the money to buy the rest of the shares and he has agreed to pass them on at cost?  If that is the case then there are some people on here who should be ashamed of the vitriol aimed at him at times.

There is no reasonable mechanism to remove him before we can repay his money (not that I see why anyone would want to, when we look at the success his stewardship has been so far).
As for the myth there isn’t a financial sacrifice from GLS in the BTB deal. What do we think is the loss in interest alone on the money he’s put up to buy the club? 

Apologies for confusing your outrage with frustration and disappointment.
I have no idea of the outcomes you mention, nor do you. 

A post full of questions that you have no idea of the answers to but still conclude in outraged fashion.

There is no reasonable mechanism to remove him before we can repay his money (not that I see why anyone would want to, when we look at the success his stewardship has been so far).
As for the myth there isn’t a financial sacrifice from GLS in the BTB deal. What do we think is the loss in interest alone on the money he’s put up to buy the club? 

Some tired forum techniques, I’ve been guilty of them myself in the past tbh. There’s a few on here that just show an individual is running out of ideas with repetitive go to’s  
The alias chat (although we know there are some) using it as a defence mechanism when you constantly get pointed out for wrong content is quite sad. 
The ‘thank you for agreeing with me’ comments. Again it’s pretty tired now, has its place for the wind up but not much else. 
The ‘so you’re saying’ chat, when it’s clear that’s not something a person is saying. (Oor Wendy is culprit one for that) 
These aren’t techniques that are going away though, let’s be honest. 
 

So every time two people start to argue a moderator should come in and remove/ block them? Aye that would work, we would both have been blocked/ removed long ago, with near enough all the active members.. think you’ll find that is absolute nonsense. But feel free to show the ‘many forums’ 
Aw have they? Well now I feel bad, make sure you pass on my apology to them.  they must prefer quiet on their Internet forums... 
If people don’t like our conversations just ignore them, it’s simple. It doesn’t impact anyone’s life and as I’ve said before, often this place becomes a ghost town. We don’t disrupt regular, ongoing flowing chat because it isn’t regularly there. 

Typical boring rhetoric from one who has been placed in the Sun Bin. The wee man doth protest too much, I think. Deflection 

If that behaviour was banned on this website there wouldn’t be a website 

It still baffles me that some fans of SMFC consider it a bad thing for other fans of SMFC to want to financially support... SMFC 

Not sure if he’s on here to answer these questions but my response to this sort of stuff is, it’s not us vs them.
SMISA are independent yes but their goal should be in line with the goals of anyone associated with SMFC. 
Being on the BoD as well, like you say they are duty bound to the good of the company but the good of the company should also be the good of SMISA & fanbase as a whole  
 
 
 
 

It’s unfortunate, a draw in the first game, even if we lost the shootout would very likely have been enough to put us through given the other teams. We’re now in a situation where we need to win all the remaining games & a few goal cushion wouldn’t go a miss. 
I think we’ll do it, as said it’s a very weak group. A number of players in our team should know not to take these teams for granted after last season, that’s for sure. 

Massive amount of spin to think the money only allowed for those two players. He certainly doesn’t say that.

Have to agree with the first sentence
seems very likely also
and this
we do need patience , yes indeed as someone on this forum might say
But go on gies a signing go on pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. 😀

Does that mean it’s okay to claim people aren’t doing a job behind the scenes? All I was doing was sticking up for the club staff after a seeming claim they don’t have a plan. 
You’ll also find he was the one that put words in my mouth about waiting until the very end of the window. 

Aye because this section of the website is just bursting with content right now, a new thread is far too much. 

So you can see my point, early recruitment hasn’t necessarily worked for them. More pressing point is, who’s judging players on the first outing of the league up? Killie couldn’t beat the worst St Mirren SP team i’ve ever seen last season ffs. 

It’s unfortunate, a draw in the first game, even if we lost the shootout would very likely have been enough to put us through given the other teams. We’re now in a situation where we need to win all the remaining games & a few goal cushion wouldn’t go a miss. 
I think we’ll do it, as said it’s a very weak group. A number of players in our team should know not to take these teams for granted after last season, that’s for sure.