beyond our ken

true they are meant to be bridge between the club and the fans, not a decision making body-but it seems thay are not really making ALL the decisions Reading the minutes, they seem to have debated several options but have been guided by the club into a fairly narrow channel regarding the membership model. I would echo HSS' unanswered question, will the FC participants be paying the same subs If they are then that is great, but will they be selecting themselves at the head of the queue for what wil be an (initially) oversubscribed application? I was largely in favour, but am beginning to think I would see a better return on my money by spending it at corpie or giving more to SMISA than standing in a half-empty sports bar with a bunch of strangers Also in the minutes is an indication of the projected initial cash injection, Caesars palace it ain't gonna be! I'd like to think it will be grown and invested in over time. I think I will also ask how the subs & takings will be spent, will they be ring-fenced until the initial outlay is recouped by SMFC? After that, who decides where the profits go-the FC or the SMFC?

Have to say i agree. it should either be a high-earning, high fee, limited-access type or a £30-50/per year to register first-come first-served arrangement. Dunfermline have struggled for years to make money out of their void since it became members only-it used to be stacked for every home game with away fans getting access for a door fee if there was room. They tried opening up in the evenings and even offered a shuttle to town to attract youngsters but it still struggles. That being said, at least it will be fitted out and the subs will cover basic costs-perhaps we can start to make the sort of money the fakes make from their lounge upstairs which is very popular for lunches and has a high reputation

the club are paying the bulk of the cost

open for 20 weeks/year and a pay at the door of less than £10 won't cover the build cost in a reasonable time frame It has to be a formal membership deal if it is to work

that would be a risk in anything you joined-from a gym to a book club. I would add, I think it is a good idea, but pricing is a bit dodgy. All of the start-up costs are loaded on to founder members and there SHOULD be a committment to a lower monthly fee for year 2 onwards-and how about a discount for up-front payment of a year's subs i should add-since it is a club looking for a founders fee, this entails a degree of ownership for those who pay the start-up costs. If you join as a founder and resign your membership later, can you recoup you £60 by selling on to a person on the waiting list? It says it is a club, so there should be a written constitution available before money changes hands

there is a lot you dont know,same as me One thng is for sure, it is not out of order to weigh up contract offers, take your time and try to make the next decision about your future the right one. He has not sued the company-he las lodged a compensation claim that will go to insurers first and probably be dealt with there

Too rational was mine

In a logical sense, the potential electorate can only include those who are eligible to vote and who actually intend to vote. Those who won't consider voting can consider themselves part of the greater electorate, but based on voting potential they couldn't be considered as part of a potential electorate. Your point is like saying the entire population of the UK is a potential market for marmite and includes those who tried it and didn't like it and those who just don't fancy the stuff.

well Gary I apologised for my mistake, and explained it I dont recall explanation or apology from you for your vile rant against club employees, the jobless and others.

Well seems i need to apologise to the FC and the PGC a recently-rejected applicant swore that was the reason he was turned down But I'll bow to superior knowledge

i was recently informed that you can't join PGC if you are a catholic If true, does this make the fan council a bunch of blue-nosed bigot apologists Just asking

It was certainly mentioned that Coughlin undermined Hendrie in the later days of their partnership. It almost always happens, assistant thinks he is the real brains of the operation, starts working against the gaffer who carries the can for the inevitable downturn. The manager needs to be the unquestioned leader, or you end up with a numpty like Craig talking his way into a job and undoing 10 years of good work in the process. For all his faults, wee Gus had it right in this regard. Strong character though Andy Milen was, the relationship was properly mapped out at the start and there were no problems-save for Millen's management of the reserves which probably convinced him that he would never be a manager

shouldn't be the case that the manager has experience of management? He should have shown enough in the selection process (nobody laugh) to reassure that HE is the man, not his assistant. New manager + experienced assistant (guy who couldn't make it on his own) = recipe for disaster

that's the only good reason for being with RBS

do you have an annual holiday insurance plan-pretty sure you might well be covered by that

Culross and Aberdour are lovely spots. Amazing places to go for a meal on a summer evening

it's just a child from the local primary

your room looks familiar-i hope i didn't wake you

just thinking, the greens should really be called "browns"- except there are no "greens" on some holes. Just a bit of fairway with a flag carelessly placed in it. I'm suspicious as to what took place that would land a major at this post industrial wasteland Suddenly the septic's stance on the world cup bidding process doesn't look quite so principled

Americans are mostly tossers Can't organise a golf tournament, cant run a foreign policy, can't understand that guns DONT make you safe and think it's OK to provoke slaughter in poor countries so that they can make some more money That being said, they can always rely on the UK as a willing accomplice in much of the above

I love an american train it's the best part of the package for me

laid up after knee surgery and decided to catch up on the highlights I don't play much, but to my partially trained eye the first thing I noticed as the co-hydramoll started wearing off was the nick of the greens, maybe they look worse than they are, i thought. i've played a couple of times on over-fed greens that started going black, but they played OK if you could ignore the smell of the chemicals. So I thought that was maybe the problem. Then i noticed the crispy-looking fairways, the weedy looking spots on the greens and the rough that looks burnt brown. Then McIlroy was in a bunker filled with slate-grey sand and I started to wonder if I had overdone the medication. Next, there was a distinct absence of spectators on several holes. i wondered if they had booked the open onto a brownfield site but just decided that the greenkeepers had got it wrong. So i looked it up and found it actually IS a brownfield site-a former sand and gravel pit! Some parts look like they are trying to grow out toxic waste in the soil. The players are none too happy about it. http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/golf/33195126 I don't think i've ever seen such a bad course, I used to play Cowdenbeath a bit as i got in for free when it was newly-converted from a disused coal mine but even then it looked better than this place does now In case anyone is wondering-I AM bored

what is his name? Didier Dashcam?

they are a great idea, I drive a lot less now than i did a few years ago but that is liable to change later this year and I will definitely be getting both our cars fitted out with cameras

the last opener we had over there went pretty well